Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The populist Obama of Jan. 22, 2010 - your opinion?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU
 
begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:03 PM
Original message
The populist Obama of Jan. 22, 2010 - your opinion?
For real? How long will it last? What will he actually do?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:07 PM
Response to Original message
1. Better, but he wont be judged by words alone any longer
He has to actually follow through.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. Yeah, he has to follow through with the banks. The problem is that it's going to
make the stock market nervous as shit. I know alot of you aren't fans, but when someones IRA or whatever is gaining value they have more confidence in the economy. Again, I know how popular consumerism is here, but really, in order for the economy to really turn consumers need to start spending.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rapturedbyrobots Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 03:16 AM
Response to Reply #7
13. no...
...companies need to start hiring.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BP2 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:12 PM
Response to Original message
2. He's going after "fat cats" Bankers. Bravo! But then there's fucking Fed Chmn Bernanke who will get

the President's nod, even as votes mount against him to not re-confirm the biggest fat cat banker of them all.

Barack - why do you have to be so duplicitous?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:04 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. Bernanke really isn't one of major causes of this, while he didn't do much to stop it,
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 10:05 PM by ChimpersMcSmirkers
he did exactly the right thing when the financial system was about to fall off the cliff. He deserves some credit for that. The real culprit at the Fed was Greenspan, who promoted two bubbles.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:14 PM
Response to Original message
3. its a nice start
kinda got to wait and see, don't we?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:18 PM
Response to Original message
4. He was a populist before it was popular......
But after becoming President, he needed to set Wall Street back on some sound footing, for the sake of 401Ks and the general economy.
Then he asked for them to give back,
and realized at some point that they weren't gonna sacrifice
anytime soon....
So I guess, he lowered the Boom!

Volker was welcomed back in December.....
However the Bank proposal may have been posponed due to Haiti.

The interesting part of this story is that Obama and Volcker went to work on this in December (about the same time as Volcker came off the reservation and started making more frequent speeches).


It'll hurt if Volcker has his way
The former Fed chief's tough tactics curbed an '80s downturn. He has a similar prescription as an Obama advisor.
December 08, 2008


Now Volcker is back, tapped by Barack Obama as a special economic advisor. And if the president-elect follows his advice on the current economic crisis, there could be pain again and no doubt many protests -- but also the possibility of long-term benefits.

In speeches, interviews, public policy reports and congressional testimony, Volcker, 81, has laid out a fairly clear outline of what he thinks is wrong with the present-day financial system and the government's management of the economy.
snip
Clearly, he wants tough new regulations on securities markets, including oversight of hedge funds, in order to avoid the need for a bailout effort by the Fed ever again. It seems likely that he will advise Obama that the growth of U.S. consumption -- everything from government spending to household outlays -- should not be financed by selling ever larger amounts of debt to foreign interests.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/08/nation/na-volcker8



I think he put the bankers on notice, and they ended up not doing as asked....

Obama to banks: 'Rebuild our economy'

By Jennifer Liberto, CNNMoney.com senior writer
December 16, 2009:
President Obama pressed Wall Street bankers at the White House on Monday, urging them to make more loans and modify mortgages to help taxpayers who propped their banks up with federal bailouts.

"My main message in today's meeting was very simple: America's banks received extraordinary assistance from American taxpayers to rebuild their industry," Obama said. "Now that they're back on their feet, we expect an extraordinary commitment from them to help rebuild our economy."

In his public statement after the meeting, Obama said he also took bankers to task for lobbying "vigorously" against parts of the financial legislation to reshape the regulatory system and prevent future financial crises.

"Short-term gains are of little value to our banks if they lead to long-term chaos in the economy," he said. "I made very clear that I have no intention of letting their lobbyists thwart reforms necessary to protect the American people."

The bank executive who attended the meeting said the president asked bankers to support financial regulatory reform, and everyone in the room appeared to agree with him.
We share the President's goals of strengthening lending to all sectors of the economy, helping homeowners avoid foreclosure, aligning compensations practices with long-term risk horizons, and modernizing the regulatory framework," said group president Steve Bartlett.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/14/news/economy/Obama_bankers/index.htm



December 17, 2009
Now that Paul Volcker has picked up his hammer, he will not lightly set it aside. He knows how to sway the policy community and he knows how to escalate when they don’t pay attention. Expect him to pound away until he prevails.
http://baselinescenario.com/2009/12/17/paul-volcker-picks-up-a-bat/



So Obama turned to Volker to get her done.
As I understand it, the bankers were kept in the dark about these new proposals. The story started to leak this Tuesday afternoon and when the bankers started calling the WH yesterday for an explanation, they did not get a warm reception.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:35 PM
Response to Original message
5. I am in Ohio. I liked his speech. He was very similar to the way
he was on the Campaign.

Since he has been in WH, he appears to be a Technocrat which
reminds some of Jimmy Carter. Style not substance. The latest
person I heard to say this was a person from Council on Foreign Relations.
PBS. There have been others. He was just the latest.

I like his more animated self because he seems to have conviction.

Technocrats can be boring.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. He, Obama, admitted as much......
figured if he payed attention to the policies,
that would speak for itself...
but of course, washington really isn't about policies.
Guess he understands that well now.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:40 PM
Response to Original message
9. It matters not.....
.... the fact that you're actually talking about it means he's achieved his goal. ;)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-22-10 10:44 PM
Response to Original message
10. So far just words.
Obama has a history now of lying to the people. I'll believe things when, and if, they happen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 02:41 AM
Response to Original message
11. waiting to see if he walks the talk
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 02:43 AM
Response to Original message
12. It would be a great idea...
When's he going to do it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 03:17 AM
Response to Original message
14. High past time...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-23-10 04:12 AM
Response to Original message
15. Saying it and doing it are two different things
I'm waiting to see if there is some action behind his words.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 06:05 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC