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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 06:54 PM
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The Obama Administration's Pivot and what to watch for......
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 07:27 PM by FrenchieCat
So as we wait for the SOTU address, many want to know, where's the change, and how will we know it is that and not some slight of hand to keep us "hoodwinked"?

Some will say "words are just words, no matter how perdy" (from the primaries),
or "he talks the talk, but we need him to walk the walk, like yesterday"(Skeptical doubters),
to the "oh sure, whatever.....I've seen this before" (total cynicism)
While the most extreme won't watch the SOTUA because they feel about Pres. Obama as they did Bush,
because for them, the two have become one in the same (Consistent Distractors, 3rd party advocates)

First off, I don't believe that Obama has actually pandered to us yet (to my chagrin), so I don't think that he will start now. It would be one thing if he had thrown a few things our way, but there are some easy things he could have done to pander (even if it was just to talk trash, which he actually hasn't done, and which is a big complaint; not nuff trash talking) and they didn't materialize.

Now, most are looking for some specific action, and hopefully, we get hints as to what is to come in the SOTUA.

The biggest issues of course are financial regulation reform, health care reform and the economy. Everything else has to get in line after that.

So here's what I've seen as an indicator of renewed hope, only up to the generally cynical. I don't think anything I post will actually alleviate the "concerns" of the total cynics or the distractors, cause I'm not magic either.

But in reference to the Banking Regulations, what I see as the pivot signs are as follow:

My understanding is that the Bank break up announcement was set for earlier,
but was postponed due to the events in Haiti.

The interesting part of this story is that Obama and Volcker actively went to work on this in early December (about the same time as Volcker came off the reservation and started making more frequent speeches) after discussions that took place in October and November.



It'll hurt if Volcker has his way
The former Fed chief's tough tactics curbed an '80s downturn. He has a similar prescription as an Obama advisor.

December 08, 2008

Now Volcker is back, tapped by Barack Obama as a special economic advisor. And if the president-elect follows his advice on the current economic crisis, there could be pain again and no doubt many protests -- but also the possibility of long-term benefits.

In speeches, interviews, public policy reports and congressional testimony, Volcker, 81, has laid out a fairly clear outline of what he thinks is wrong with the present-day financial system and the government's management of the economy.
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Clearly, he wants tough new regulations on securities markets, including oversight of hedge funds, in order to avoid the need for a bailout effort by the Fed ever again. It seems likely that he will advise Obama that the growth of U.S. consumption -- everything from government spending to household outlays -- should not be financed by selling ever larger amounts of debt to foreign interests.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/08/nation/na-volcker8





a week or so later, Obama held a meeting with Bankers....




Obama to banks: 'Rebuild our economy'
By Jennifer Liberto, CNNMoney.com senior writer
December 16, 2009:
President Obama pressed Wall Street bankers at the White House on Monday, urging them to make more loans and modify mortgages to help taxpayers who propped their banks up with federal bailouts.

"My main message in today's meeting was very simple: America's banks received extraordinary assistance from American taxpayers to rebuild their industry," Obama said. "Now that they're back on their feet, we expect an extraordinary commitment from them to help rebuild our economy."

In his public statement after the meeting, Obama said he also took bankers to task for lobbying "vigorously" against parts of the financial legislation to reshape the regulatory system and prevent future financial crises.

"Short-term gains are of little value to our banks if they lead to long-term chaos in the economy," he said. "I made very clear that I have no intention of letting their lobbyists thwart reforms necessary to protect the American people."

The bank executive who attended the meeting said the president asked bankers to support financial regulatory reform, and everyone in the room appeared to agree with him.
We share the President's goals of strengthening lending to all sectors of the economy, helping homeowners avoid foreclosure, aligning compensations practices with long-term risk horizons, and modernizing the regulatory framework," said group president Steve Bartlett.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/14/news/economy/Obama_bankers/index.htm



They seemed unmoved, and some didn't even bother showing up, and so,
the very Next day, Volcker started flexing his muscles....


December 17, 2009

Now that Paul Volcker has picked up his hammer, he will not lightly set it aside. He knows how to sway the policy community and he knows how to escalate when they don’t pay attention. Expect him to pound away until he prevails.
http://baselinescenario.com/2009/12/17/paul-volcker-picks-up-a-bat/


As I understand it, the bankers were kept in the dark about these new proposals. The story started to leak last Tuesday afternoon and when the bankers started calling the WH yesterday for an explanation, they did not get a warm reception.


Meanwhile, Obama welcomes (by the Left) a new face inside of the White house....

The woman Democrats need



ON THE day after Tuesday’s electoral loss, the Obama administration brought an unfamiliar face to the White House - Elizabeth Warren, the Harvard Law professor noted for her staunch advocacy on behalf the middle class and fierce criticism of the bank bailouts. Perhaps the administration will take a more aggressive approach to Wall Street, along the lines of what Warren wants. But for Democrats to truly take ownership of the economic crisis, Warren will need to play a more prominent role. Not just her ideas, but the force of her personality is needed.
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2010/01/24/the_woman_democrats_need/




All in all, I don't believe these moves have been made for "posturing" purposes, as it is too much trouble to go through just for the sake of throwing crumbs....


Policy Pivot on Banks Followed Months of Wrangling

Former Fed Chairman Volcker, With Backing From Biden and Axelrod,
Helped Shape Obama's Tougher Stance on Banks



Mr. Kanjorski was pushing an amendment to the House's financial-regulation bill that would clamp down on big banks. With the amendment gaining momentum, Mr. Geithner dispatched Michael Barr, an assistant secretary at the Treasury and confidant of Mr. Kanjorski, to help shape it. That month, Mr. Geithner testified before the Financial Services Committee that he backed the amendment's scope.

Treasury officials feared headlines would blare that Mr. Geithner had backed breaking up the banks. But the president continued to endure criticism, in particular from his left, that he was coddling Wall Street. In talks with his financial team, Mr. Obama started letting his frustration show, asking why he was on the wrong side of the "too big to fail" debate.

White House officials said the president called a meeting of his entire economic team to press for additional proposals. But its members were at odds: Messrs. Geithner and Summers argued that proprietary trading was a problem but not a central cause of the financial crisis, according to an official familiar with the talks. Mr. Volcker saw proprietary trading as a fundamental risk.

In December, Mr. Obama decided he wanted to be on what he saw as "the right side" of the debate, according to an administration official. He asked his team to bring him specific proposals to limit the size of financial institutions and halt proprietary trading. Spurring their thinking: Goldman Sachs had sought the protection of the Federal Reserve during the financial crisis, and was now making big profits from its own trading, in part because it benefited from the explicit backing of the U.S.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704423204575017543560874692.html?mod=WSJ-Markets-MIDDLETopNew


So my point is, I think we are about to turn a corner,
and even in my own estimation (as head cheerleaders, as I am called),
it's more than about time.

We shall see when all is said and done,
but I wouldn't bet my house against it.


I believe that we will hear similar messages on Health Care and the Economy,
So I'm gonna believe that new WH messaging is on it's way....
cause needless to say, it is almost past time.

To some degree, I see Plouffe as taking over a large part of
Rahm's job....
Just like I see Volcker taking a big chunk of Geithner's job,
while Elizabeth Warren will get a smaller chunk still...
which frankly to many, this should be an encouraging sign;
the fact that someone learned some lesson about something....


Obama's Campaign Champion Pulled Back In

Plouffe is taking on an expanded role as an outside adviser to the president, and he will focus on strategy for November's Senate, House and gubernatorial races.



Plouffe's team will aim to detect problems early, and alert the White House and Democratic officials if a candidate is falling behind. The party was caught off guard by Brown's surge in the Massachusetts race, and reacted too late to keep the seat.

After the presidential election, Plouffe chose not to follow Obama to the White House. He returned to the private sector and wrote a book about the campaign called The Audacity to Win. He has remained in touch with the president and his political team, however, and now the administration is looking to him to help the White House regain the political momentum of President Obama's 2008 campaign.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122922463



Some will poo-poo this as being "all for show", but somehow, I just don't believe that this is the case. There are many things one can say about Barack Obama, and one is that he is quite transparent, in most of his moves. Accordingly, these moves are being made for a reason, and I don't think it strictly about elections (although there is nothing wrong with that, but still). I think it has to do with the fact that the entire enchilada was quickly getting away from this new President, and like any new president, it is time that he gets a handle back on things. He'll have to take his lumps and get to fighting.


Look, Obama's not perfect, and he has without a doubt made his mistakes, but I also believe that it's not too late, nor should it be, and that labeling anything "fatal" would be our mistake.

Those who want to down him while he is doing this "correction" simply because they think it should have happened before now, or we shouldn't have ever been in this situation, than be my guest... but whether the same criticism that we have heard time after time will actually help us advance us any further down the road is questionable....but of course, Please do it, if you feel so compelled.

PS: As for the Neener-neener Conservatives/GOP/Freepers who patrol this forum as they sit on their high above vulture perches and the Anti-Obamas who like mad laughing Hienas both wait for our country to fail, please go ahead and side with the banks on this one, why don't ya? :rofl:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:01 PM
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1. I like your analysis, my dear FrenchieCat...
And how much I hope you're right.

You have some very good ideas here.

Let's see how they play out...

K&R

:hi:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:18 PM
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3. We actually have front row seats.....
so yes, we will all see.

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:17 PM
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2. Like the Afghanistan situation, I heartily applaud Obama for
soliciting new/different approaches and input. It shows he has integrity and is trying to do the right thing.

If people think the conditions of this country and its people aren't weighing heavily on Obama's shoulders (and soul), they're mistaken.

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Greenpeach Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:25 PM
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4. Speaking as one who has kept the faith
these are reassuring words, and, If I had your knowledge and grasp of the situation, thoughts I would have expressed myself. I support and believe in the President, I think being a cheerleadeer is a good thing.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:33 PM
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7. As far as cheerleader go, there is no fighting a label that some many want me to have.....
So I'll take it, and keep on fighting for the American folks...
and yes, I do believe that at this exact time, Pres. Obama is
our best hope, which is why I want us to experience success,
and really nothing more.

Like he himself said in Ohio last week..."I know that there are some folks that think that if Obama loses, we win -- but, you know what -- I think that I win when you win."

Now, the corporation's media is a hard biotch to bear...
after all, they decide so much more than they should,
and actually, that should be the scary part to us.

Here's an interesting interview, (for those who didn't see Moyers last night)

Video: http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/01222010/watch.html
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:31 PM
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5. Fund the SBA. Forget jawboning the banks because it doesnt work.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:33 PM
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6. I Heartily Hope You're Right - But Forgive My Skepticism
I'm pretty doubtful of anything until the crypto-Republican troika of Larry, Timmy, and Rahm are kicked to the curb and Dean is pulled out from under the bus. And we can't believe anything until we see it in action - after all, Obama now claims that he never ran on a public option(!), so his word and track record are highly suspect.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:38 PM
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8.  1, 2, 3.
Step One - Divert global economic collapse.

Step Two - Protect the people from suffering caused by reckless financial speculation.

Step Three - Rebuild the lives and livelihoods of ordinary Americans

Looking forward to the SOTU.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:40 PM
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9. Really interesting and good analysis. I rec'd but somehow it went from 9 recs to 7
:crazy:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 07:44 PM
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10. That's the magic possessed by Vultures and Hienas....
They aren't happy about a pivot,
especially if it means that the country ends up not failing.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:09 PM
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33. Yeah, I am sure that's it.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 08:44 PM
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13. At 15 with my rec. Usually, good posts like this climb after the first 30 minutes or so...
There are unreccers who make neutralize some of the early recs, but as more and more people read the thread, the count is usually positive and climbs (provided it's factual and not too nasty/snarky).

All in all it restores my faith that by far, more of DU agrees with FrenchieCat than disagrees.

But, the unrec feature does more harm than good to this community and I'll be glad to see it gone.

:kick:
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 10:45 PM
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16. Yup - when I rec'd it went from 48 to 23. n/t
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mirrera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 08:39 PM
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11. From your mouth to ... etc. etc.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 08:42 PM
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12. Good analysis.
K&R.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 09:18 PM
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14. Good analysis, FrenchieCat. It would have been near perfect if you hadn't thrown
Edited on Sun Jan-24-10 09:22 PM by bertman
in that nasty-assed P.S. right at the end.

Nonetheless, I'm reccing this and hoping that this is the turning point that makes President Obama into the President we all want him to be.

Rec.

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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:42 AM
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19. Oh come on bertman....that p.s. wasn't for you....
And you know as a Gallic Feline, I gotta have a bit of my claws out. :hi:
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:44 AM
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30. "Gallic Feline".
:rofl: :rofl:

That's a good one.

:hi:
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-24-10 09:59 PM
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15. Recommended.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:15 AM
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17. LOL: "Neener-neener". Thanks, Frenchie for paying attention to all of these developments! nt
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 12:22 AM
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18. Hope you're right
Well researched. However, you don't hire Tim Geithner and let him run and turn to the most
aggressive general you've got to expand the Afghanistan war and suddenly become enlightened.
These were just horrible moves but taken with full knowledge of what would happen. Words
are one thing, action is another. The action we've had is almost completely inadequate.
People are suffering here and elsewhere and who get's the help - big bankers and whoever the
heck benefits from us sending 30,000 troops to Afghanistan.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:15 AM
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20. FrenchieCat, you point to some encouraging news.
Unfortunately, that encouraging news does not drown out the bad news: President Obama is apparently giving in to the right-wing extremists -- a "bi-partisan" bunch who want to cut Social Security and Medicare.

FrenchieCat, the average monthly Social Security benefit is $1,064.00.

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/policy/docs/quickfacts/stat_snapshot/

Yes, the budget needs to be balanced. But there is no fat in Social Security to cut.

So, I'm delighted to see that Obama is conferring with Volcker, Elizabeth Warren and rehiring Pfouffe.

I hope they will tell him that the way to rebalance the budget is to get a hold on the banks and on foreign trade and outsourcing, not cutting Social Security benefits. Again, there is nothing to cut in Social Security. It is already as lean as it can get.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:49 AM
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21. I agree with you Frenchie
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 02:50 AM by Tom Rinaldo
There are important hopeful signs of the type of pivot that you wrote about, particularly in the area of banking and the economy where I think that pivot has already progressed beyond mere hope into action. It is still early in Obama's first term in office. It is not a sign of weakness if he refines some of his priorities and the tactics to be used in implementing them, it more is a sign of strength in my opinion that he is actively reviewing his options and considering mid course corrections.

Do you have any further information on what is meant when it was said that Obama brought Elizabeth Warren into the White House? I don't mean to be petty but the story was vague about whether he brought her in for a consultation or if he brought her into his Administration and/or advisor circle on a new ongoing basis. Even if it were only the former it would still be a positive indicater from my perspective. I am heartened to know that she has our President's ear.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 03:03 AM
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22. Here....
Warren, a Harvard professor and the chief of the TARP Congressional Oversight Panel, told Maddow that she's encouraged not only by the new proposals to limit banks, but also by the president's renewed commitment to an independent consumer financial protection agency.

Warren: "I feel better than I've felt in a long time. Because what I've heard the president saying on the Consumer Financial Protection Agency is, 'It's not going down. I'm here, I'm not giving up on it. There is not going to be a compromise to cave in on it.' I heard him say that we're going to tax those large financial institutions, and we're going to make them pay back all of the money under TARP. And then today, I heard him say we're gonna break apart too-big-to-fail. And we're going to have an answer, so that every financial institution, if it makes big enough mistakes, if it takes big enough risks and loses, every one of them, can in the end, die.... And what I hear in that is that... the financial institutions have pushed him hard... is pushing right back."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/22/elizabeth-warren-obama-is_n_432601.html


Jan 20 2010, 6:13 pm by Marc Ambinder
A Reformer At The White House
Elizabeth Warren, the Harvard professor and oversight panel chair who is fighting to prevent Congress from gutting the administration's proposed bank reforms, met today with David Axelrod, the president's senior advisor, according to my eyes and ears.

Warren, a widely admired economist, has become something of a Beltway phenom due to her obvious and unconcealed passion for reform and her disdain for the status quo. She has been critical of the administration's approach to managing the bank bailouts, and within the Treasury Department has achieved a bit of a bugbear status.

What did she and Axelrod discuss?

"There is no greater advocate for the financial interests of working people than Elizabeth," Axelrod said in an e-mail. "So I value her commitment and insights on issues like financial reform. There's never a doubt who's side she's on."
http://politics.theatlantic.com/2010/01/a_reformer_at_the_white_house.php

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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 01:53 PM
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34. There is no doubt whose side Elizabeth Warren is on.
I like your new sigline picture by the way, not trying to curry favor, just saying, it's nice.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:40 AM
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40. You're not currying favor.......
Thanks for the compliment! :loveya:
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:00 AM
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23. Small oversight
Your first two higlighted events are one year, not two weeks, apart:

It'll hurt if Volcker has his way
December 08, 2008

a week or so later, Obama held a meeting with Bankers....

Obama to banks: 'Rebuild our economy'
December 16, 2009:

___________________________________________________________________

Doesn't change the impact of your analysis though



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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 06:41 AM
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24. You are correct.....
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 06:50 AM by FrenchieCat
I didn't pick up on that. :blush:

But my dates (but in the same year...lol) were accurate.

Obama's 'Volcker Rule' shifts power away from Geithner

For much of last year, Paul Volcker wandered the country arguing for tougher restraints on big banks while the Obama administration pursued a more moderate regulatory agenda driven by Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner. Thursday morning at the White House, it seemed as if the two men had swapped places.

The moment was the product of Volcker's persistence and a desire by the White House to impose sharper checks on the financial industry than Geithner had been advocating, according to some government sources and political analysts. It was Obama's most visible break yet from the reform philosophy that Geithner and his allies had been promoting earlier.

Advocates of Volcker's ideas were delighted. "This is a complete change of policy that was announced today. It's a fundamental shift," said Simon Johnson, a professor at MIT's Sloan School of Management. "This is coming from the political side. There are classic signs of major policy changes under pressure . . . but in a new and much more sensible direction."

Industry officials, however, said they were startled and disheartened that Geithner was overruled, in part because they supported the more moderate approach Geithner proposed last year.

The shift toward Volcker's thinking began last fall, according to government officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the deliberations were private.

His ideas began gaining traction within the administration in late October, when the president convened a meeting of his senior economic advisers in the Oval Office to hear a detailed presentation by the former Fed chairman.
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Goolsbee said that Vice President Biden became a particular advocate for Volcker's approach.

In mid-December, the president formally endorsed Volcker's approach and asked Geithner and Lawrence H. Summers, the director of the National Economic Council, to work closely with the former Fed chairman to develop proposals that could be sent to Capitol Hill.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/21/AR2010012104935_2.html?sid=ST2010012104948



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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:22 AM
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42. Your analysis stands nonetheless n/t
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:44 AM
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25. Let us hope so - but I remain deeply cynical. n/t
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dreamnightwind Donating Member (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:34 AM
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26. K & R
Good post, FrenchieCat. I'm no fan of most of your posts, it's nice to have one I can rec.

I don't know how much of this pivot is real and how much of it is for appearances. I'll reserve judgement and hope for the best. So far it's been incredibly disappointing. I definitely agree that there is some degree of pivot happening, what it really is and how large it is are still unknown.

Sounds like Biden has once again been a positive influence on this administration's direction.

Seems to me Geithner, Summers, and Bernanke need to be shown the door, but what do I know...

Anyway the tone and reasonableness of your post was excellent, so good to elevate the discussion a little.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 08:41 AM
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27. Great analysis Frenchie.
I am so happy to see Elizabeth Warren showing up at the WH and Volcker being listened to. I think Obama is proving he can learn from his mistakes and he will be a very good President indeed.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 09:58 AM
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28. K & R
I hope you're right.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:22 AM
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29. It has always been my hope that the things he has done
was all part of a plan to change thing....yes planning like the rethugs do for a long term goal of change. some people find that all distasteful but it being distasteful is why they win and we don't....they have no problem with distasteful if it furthers their goals.

And so your Analise is one of hopefulness and can be nothing but helpful in raising our spirits
But having said that I remain reserved in my hope because we have been fooled before many times...but not yet I would say for this man.
K&R
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 10:55 AM
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31. Inertia
He Gave One Team/Strategy A Shot. They didn't get the results he was hoping for or they promised. Obama learns. Makes corrections. The next team/strategy is now getting their shot.

This is typical Obama (and I mean that in a good way).

It made sense he would first go with a strategy that didn't upset status quo too much, but still started getting things in the right direction. But it was enough to get people used to the fact that there was going to be a new direction. Now, you start pushing harder, and he needs new players, and new strategy for that.

This is inertial theory. Complex social systems can't be radically/quickly altered without ensuing chaos, there is inertia that has to be accounted for. So, like a massive ship, you need to turn it slowly, and you can accelerate once you get it going.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 11:38 AM
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32. There are hints of good things to come, I choose to hold out for action.
Edited on Mon Jan-25-10 11:39 AM by Mithreal
Well done, until you get to your PS.

Why resist the dog whistle?

Why resist the urge to poke your finger in the eye of anyone who disagrees by calling them Anti-Obamas?

And to say many on the rightwing grassroots/astroturf are not also against the TBTF Banks is disingenuous. I hesitate now even to use the term astroturf since Dems have proven they love the fake stuff too.

Damn, I only had praise with the call for action not window dressing praise exception then you throw in that turd. Ruins the flavor of everything else you wrote.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 01:59 PM
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35. If you don't fit the description, the PS wasn't about you.....
There are many websites which in fact members of such watch DU like a hawk,
and are heavily invested in the President Failing.

Since that isn't something you are remotely into, I would imagine,
the PS shouldn't rankle you so.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 02:16 PM
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36. I saw your response to bertman after I posted this. However, it still does.
"the Anti-Obamas who like mad laughing Hienas both wait for our country to fail, please go ahead and side with the banks on this one, why don't ya?"

"Anti-Obamas" is thrown around often enough here and if all who use it could agree on the definition, then you might persuade me your intentions were 100% positive. And by the way, both "sides" include people who do NOT wait to see this country fail. And any Dem, even whatever subset you seem to label, would be crazy to wait for this country to fail. Anyway, those comments are over the top and seem like a victim mentality and divisiveness endorsing self righteousness of sorts. I appreciate the shoe fits comment but that is just a cop-out.

If you can take that tiny bit of criticism I would really like to see more of the good stuff above that last comment and if you can refrain from that sort of rhetoric you will earn a rec from me every time.
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BlueJac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-25-10 07:25 PM
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37. I wish you were correct, but.............
a few people need to be fire from the Obamarama team of fools....Summers, Giethner, Emanuel and a few more hold over Clintonite fucking loser team. DLC is the cancer of the Democratic Party!!! We need the changed we were promised not the false hope handed out!!!
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:26 AM
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38. K & R
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:38 AM
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39. Nice to see you acknowledge he has a lot of work to do
Put me in the skeptical doubters camp
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 12:42 AM
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41. No problem.
I'm human.....
I don't think this guy is perfect,
I just don't choose to dump on him everyday,
and always assume the worse.
I saved that for the Bush administration....

What I've seen come out of this administration,
is a totally different thing,
even if some want more and want it quicker.....
it isn't or hasn't been close to being the same,
so I refuse to act similar as I did then.
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