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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:00 PM
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President Barack Obama will unveil a jobs-heavy agenda in his State of the Union address

Obama State of the Union: Get Agenda Moving
By AP / BEN FELLER Wednesday, Jan. 27, 2010


(WASHINGTON) — Facing a divided Congress and a dissatisfied nation, President Barack Obama will unveil a jobs-heavy agenda in his State of the Union address Wednesday, retooling his message more than his mission.

His goal: Get the economy, the confidence of voters and his own presidency on surer footing.

Obama's speech will be underpinned by two themes — reassuring millions of Americans that he understands their struggles and convincing people that he is working to change Washington even as he finds himself working within its old political ways.

The 9 p.m. EST address has enormous stakes for Obama. He rode a tide of voter frustration into office and now is getting smacked by it himself.(See photos of Obama's personal touches to the White House.)

Obama will offer fresh detail about how he wants to help businesses hire again and how he hopes to salvage an overhaul of health care insurance. Yet for all the new wrinkles he offers, the speech will be measured largely by how well he reconnects with the public.

"In this political environment, what I haven't always been successful at doing is breaking through the noise and speaking directly to the American people," Obama conceded to an interviewer last week. This is his chance — speeches like this one can draw 30 million to 50 million viewers, sometimes more.

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http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1956975,00.html
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:03 PM
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1. Oh my fucking goddess.
More on "helping businesses hire again."

Nothing on "stopping businesses from taking jobs out of the country like they've been doing for 30 years and bringing at least some of those jobs back here."


If indeed this is what he's going to say, all I can say is, he doesn't get it. Not. Even. Close.





Tansy Gold
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:19 PM
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5. And all you know how to do is complain. So you're even. nt
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:39 PM
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8. They have a valid point
Will it be a supply-side "solution", or will it reject Reaganism and put the people first?

I really hope the later.
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:51 PM
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9. Job development is Reaganomics?
That's news to me.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:29 PM
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10. To some people, yes
The question is, what camp does the president sit in?

The reality is that tax cuts only affect already profitable businesses. They allow the business to cut a bigger check to shareholders. These dividends are essentially subsidized with government money when a supply-side approach is taken. There is no proof that delivering bigger dividends to shareholders results in more jobs across the economy. Providing tax breaks for businesses that create jobs doesn't really effect operational bottom line, but the bottom line of private citizens uninvolved with production (the rich).

Another approach is to create private sector jobs is by simply creating more demand for products, which must be done by making sure most people are employed and have some form of liquidity. The easiest answer for approaching the opposite side is some type of Keynesian stimulus that stimulates production (and thereby employment).
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DFLforever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:28 PM
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12. I think most of the money is to be directed to small business
which historically has been our major source of new jobs.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 03:00 PM
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14. What difference does it make?
If the Reaganomic supply-side approach is being taken, only profitable small businesses will be helped (since they only have profits that they pay taxes on). You see, these businesses will have to be profitable AFTER the new hire to be eligible for tax cuts. The tax-cuts won't be money invested into the business, as that will all be pre-spent and written off by that time. The profit and tax cuts goes to the owner'(s)/shareholder'(s) private bank account thereafter (not the business).

If a business has enough demand to require a new hire, and is profitable enough to do so, why does giving the shareholders money after the hire help the hire happen in the first place? How does this voodoo impact the real job market? Small or large business alike, how does this work?

At the end of the day, its just a government reward to the rich for already doing desired behavior (not an actual monetary incentive at the business level to perform a behavior in the future). And the reality is, that when a business is profitable and demand dictates hiring, no extra reward is necessary to make this behavior happen. And the problem here really remains: first that demand must exist. If the government diverts all its money to goto the owners & shareholders, they may not have enough budgeted to address the real problem in the first place and stimulate production/demand directly.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:05 PM
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2. I sure hope you're right
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:07 PM
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3. Republicans want to dictate ...What the President should do
Edited on Wed Jan-27-10 12:14 PM by Tippy
WASHINGTON – House Republican leaders say President Barack Obama ought to do more than change his message when he delivers his State of the Union address — he should also change the course of his presidency.

House Republican Leader John Boehner said Wednesday that Obama's proposal for a partial spending freeze is a good start. But, he added that Obama should also abandon big spending proposals on health care, climate change and jobs.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100127/ap_on_bi_ge/us_state_of_the_union_republicans

Last week it was create jobs now he should abandon that effort and more...These silly sap suckers all they really want to do is see our President fail...The biggest failures in the world are REPUBLICANSRepublicans ae telling us that they are NOT going to work with Obama but they will work against Obama and Americans citizens......What a sorry lot they are
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:18 PM
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4. So is he conceding his first year in office was a terrible waste of time
spent on a health care bill which isn't apparently going anywhere.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:21 PM
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6. Tell that to the people who got jobs or kept jobs because of stim funds. nt
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:05 PM
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11. the problem is not with the stimulus funds.
And I've never denied that those stimulus funds kept people -- like a lot of teachers and police officers in Arizona -- on the job.

The problem is that the stimulus funds come to an end, and there is not an inexhaustible source for them at the present time in the present economy. They alone cannot resuscitate an economy being drained of its lifeblood, which is the creation of tangible wealth in the form of consumer goods.

Teachers and police officers, as much respect as they deserve for their valuable contributions to our society, do not create the tangible wealth that is necessary for a sustainable economy. For that you need jobs in which raw material is turned into useful products: clothes, shoes, staplers, TVs, dishes, pianos and ukeleles, shovels, food and/or the machinery and equipment needed to produce them, everything from tractors to . There will always, of course, be ancillary jobs, like accountants and schedulers, janitors and engineers. There will also be distributive jobs in sales and transportation. But ultimately it all goes back to manufacturing (which includes farming and mining and logging, etc.).

Those jobs which serve little to no function in the economy relative to the remuneration paid for them -- insurance executive, stock broker, lobbyist -- drag the economy down in a proportion fairly relative to the disparity between their value and their pay. If their jobs and their pay are protected more than the jobs and pay of those in the "real" economy, then it is difficult to resurrect a dying economy.

Look at the "trickle-up" scenario, which has its historic precedents:

As cheap goods from China and Madagascar are made less attractive through tariffs and taxes, more consumer goods will be manufactured in the U.S. That means companies will be hiring workers, and they will be putting those workers to work MAKING THINGS. Those workers will in turn buy other products, from cars to iPads, thus putting more people to work. Tax revenues will rise, and cities and counties will be able to put more people to work building roads and repairing bridges. Desiring to get the best workers, companies will offer incentives, such as paid health insurance and improved wages and benefits. Desiring to get the best FOR workers, unions will negotiate better contracts with better benefits. As production increases, companies will hire more accountants and sales people. Stores will hire more cashiers.

It all starts with manufacturing jobs. It always has and it always will. That's the foundation of a viable national economy. Without it, there is no wealth creation other than the fantasy figures dreamt up by quants who have no connection to the real world.

Stimulus funds are fine, provided they're accompanied by legislation that restarts the wealth production machine. The stimulus package produced by the Obama administration didn't do that. Cash for Clunkers tried, but it was far too little and far too late.

The people in Oregon appear to be very much aware of this economic theory, because they've elected to pull some of the wealth back into their economy that's been taken out by the very rich who didn't put enough back in on their own. If the federal government, aka the Obama administration, wants to make a stab at restarting the fundamental economy of the United States, they need to start taxing the very wealthy and their estates, stop protecting the foreign manufacturers owned and or operated by "American" corporations, and keep the money and the jobs at home.

I'm not the enemy here, and I don't think of even my opponents on DU as "enemies." But I do think -- and you can flame me or alert on me all you like -- too many of those who are blindly supporting the administration to the extent that they perceive ANY criticism as "hatred" of Obama have painted themselves into a corner. It's okay to admit to a mistake. It's okay to change your mind when the circumstances change. In my book, that's a sign of wisdom and maturity.

Even Carl Schurz, who said "My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right," admitted within that quote the possiblity that his country might do or be wrong.

Barack Obama seems to be admitting recently that perhaps he's made some mistakes. Haven't we all? And isn't that admission the first step to correcting the mistake or fixing the results of that mistake?

Haven't we all known parents who adored their offspring so much that they never corrected the little darlings when they did wrong? They thought the tantrums were cute and the petty thefts just pranks and the minor cruelties just the ordinary actions of a child on its way to maturity. And of course all too often those little tantrum throwers grow up to be insufferable brats. . . .or worse.

But you can hate me if you like, and by "you" I mean not any particular DUer but any and all who disagree with me; all of you, supporters and detractors alike, live only in my computer and not in my real life so I really don't care if some of you don't like me. You can call me an Obama hater when I choose to refer to him by his childhood nickname of Barry because I think there are times when he's acting like a spoiled teenager. You can call me a PUMA when I mention that yes, I was a Hillary supporter in the primaries. You can call me a socialist and a marxist and a far left fringer and I will thank you for the compliment, since I am all three. You can even call me a freeper or a troll or whatever, and if you do I will simply alert on you because that's against the rule.

But don't accuse me of not caring. I do care about my country, my world, my planet, my family, my dogs, my friends, my environment. I'll work to keep them safe and happy and healthy, and those who don't agree with me on DU can go scratch. You're not really real to me, and in fact


neither is



Tansy Gold
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 12:33 PM
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7. But what about people who don't want employment?
Are they just getting shafted under Obama administration?

So much for change, Mr. Obama!
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 02:31 PM
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13. Cant wait. NT
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