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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:20 PM
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I am kind of sad Obama spanked the repubs so soundly
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 12:22 PM by dkf
I liked hearing his reasoning and thought process. But I don't think they will allow it again.

That is the problem. Everyone is so interested in winning they won't debate the issue in front of the public.

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:24 PM
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1. Who'd have thought they'd allow it in the first place? He knew this was his one shot...
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 12:24 PM by ClassWarrior
...and he took it. I'm glad he did. And I'm not surprised that you're not.

NGU.

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:32 PM
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7. The fact that the repukes thought they had the upper hand before the fact..
is just hilarious to me.

It tells me that they actually believe all the bullshit that they spew about Democrats and the President.

"He's just a celebrity (so he's really not very smart), he just gives a good speech."

They convinced themselves, through Limbaugh and Faux alternate realities, that their bullshit is the truth, and it ended up biting them in the ass.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:34 PM
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8. My thoughts exactly. They believed their own BS.
NGU.

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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:44 PM
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15. you forgot the teleprompter.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 01:40 PM
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21. It is really funny. They fully expected him to fold under their barrage
of talking points. To their chagrin, he recognized every canned talking point they came up with and swatted them like he did that poor fly during the interview with brian williams.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:17 PM
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27. Yeah... Their old, predictable talking points aren't much use when removed from talk radio context
Tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts, less government, tax cuts, less regulation, tax cuts, less government... I mean in something like health insurance reform I don't see how the federal government could possibly get any more hands off than they already are.

As Obama said in his appearance, the GOP offers political assertions that have no substantial policy basis. We need things that can actually be implemented and get results. They score points in the chatterbox news cycle but when the policy is examined for more than fifteen seconds it has no chance of being feasible. It's great for making people angry at Democrats and scoring votes but not so great when it comes to governing.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:04 PM
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25. It kinda shows what fantasy world
they're livin' in ..but, to be fair, they didn't want the cameras at first but the White House keep pressuring and they relented in the last hours.:) Much to the delight of Millions and to their and fauxsn00ze's chagrin.
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 04:08 AM
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33. They bought into the teleprompter jokes...
Someone in their party should have shown them the footage of Obama destroying McCain in the debates during the '08 campaign. It's pretty amusing that they bought into the caricature. This isn't George W. Bush we're talking about here, yet they bought into the idea that he was similarly stupid.
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:24 PM
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2. I've very glad he did. Even it they say "NO" to beling beaten down again at least we have YouTube
and TiVo. I have a feeling this video will be shown a lot of times.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:26 PM
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3. And if he requests it again, and they say no
who looks like the biggest bunch of assholes? Yup. :D
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:28 PM
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4. You must have read my mind. The GOP, as we speak, are re-grouping and furiously
pounding out new talking points and will be all over the TeeVee Sunday to point out that we didn't see what we saw.

I hate it. I hate them. It is so all about winning, and not about the people.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:34 PM
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9. The new buzzword has already been chosen.. "Lecture"
It makes me :rofl: ever time I hear it used. The pukes are using it a LOT.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:36 PM
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11. I wonder what other words they will use. I will keep track of the number of times
they use "lecture" and other inflammatory words they use multiple times.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:38 PM
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12. Yup. Palin, too.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:36 PM
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23. Thats what professor does lecture....we should use spank.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:50 AM
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36. Olbermann said something to the effect of, "I don't know about lecture, but he sure did..."
"...school them."

:rofl:

NGU.

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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:28 PM
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5. IMO, the most important result: The GOP should now understand
he does not fear them. Standing up to bullies is the only
way to stop them.

If Democrats had been standing up to GOP over the years,
the country would be a better place.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:29 PM
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6. but it will go down in history
It's on video in its entirety and takes its place among the films that will be used to teach students of rhetoric (the real kind) and history.

It doesn't matter what the GOP does anymore. They've been punked and they know it and it's their fault.

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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:34 PM
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10. No matter what, no matter how, some people just want to be negative
I present to you all, the official mascot of the Democratic-Depressives:

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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:50 PM
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16. I don't understand why you feel it necessary to get personal.
Not nice.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:56 PM
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19. Pooh. I feel vindicated by obama's sotu.
He did practically everything I was railing about. You probably don't even realize it.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 01:08 PM
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20. Joan walsh is sad it probably won't happen again either.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 02:00 AM
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30. LOL
Perfect.
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:39 PM
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13. Ironically all he did was point out the blatantly obvious
...that is how far out of touch the GOP is anymore.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:53 PM
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17. Obvious to us.
Maybe we do think differently though.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 01:41 PM
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22. Makes you wonder why our elected representatives find it so hard..
to do the same.
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:40 PM
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14. I've been looking online at the newspapers and they aren't calling it a smackdown.
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 12:40 PM by mucifer
and it's not the biggest story out there. We know it was a smackdown because we saw it. I just don't think that many people saw it. I guess it will be interesting to see how the Sunday pundits spin it. But, I'm thinking they won't call it a smackdown.


I hate the msm!
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Greenpeach Donating Member (375 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 12:54 PM
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18. Don't you just hate anybody who persists in telling
Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 12:56 PM by Greenpeach
you over and over again, that you didn't see what you saw? That what you know to be true,is not?
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 10:38 PM
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24. I love it what he clapped his hands together...sorta spanking at them.
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TCJ70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:06 PM
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26. He needs to propose the next one...
...that was if they refuse it only reinforces the "party of no" image that has already been painted.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-30-10 11:43 PM
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28. "I don't think they will allow it again"?
To which 'they' are you referring?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 01:33 AM
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29. I take a different view.....
The Repugs want to score political points and destroy the Obama Presidency. The Republicans can't debate what they don't have so there is no way they would ever win.....so they take the other route....
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 03:45 AM
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31. Then PO should invite them over to meet at the WH
Edited on Sun Jan-31-10 03:52 AM by CLANG
with CSPAN cameras of course. If they refused they would seem very non-partisan. And if they agreed, but refused to do so with cameras - bingo! - They just admitted they have to hide their incompetence in the face of a superior intellect and adversary! And if they accept, they get spanked again - harder!!! :spank:
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TTUBatfan2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 04:06 AM
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32. By everyone, I assume...
You mean everyone in the Repub caucus? Obama has clearly shown that he does want to debate this stuff in public. Granted, maybe that is also a sign that he wants to win because he knows a public debate will reflect well on him and poorly on them. :evilgrin:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 06:48 AM
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34. Of course they won't allow it again...
they were trounced, virtually the entire House R's came out of this looking like a bunch of 1st graders. There was posturing aplenty by the R's, but absolutely nothing of substance. He did one of those things we see so rarely we are astounded when it happens...he actually spoke of viable policies and how he made decisions , he came off as intelligent and had valid answers for their questions, questions that we have heard time and again without any answers of their own.

Far more people watched this in one form or another, either live, replay or clips, and what they saw was a GOP that is adrift, looking for something to stick politically and can't find that one piece that will stick. On the other hand, even those who do not agree w/PO saw a leader, someone who is in command of his decision making process, someone who is willing to get into the dirt and wrestle with problems, find solutions and enact them. He beat them at their own game. He didn't have to do much homework, didn't have to have the questions presented to him beforehand, he knew what they would be, the R's haven't had anything knew in a decade, they have painted themselves into a corner and don't know how to get out. The president trounced them.

I've been going outside of the US media to read the reactions to what happened...the world took note, and the president came out of this with wildly higher respect from allies and enemies alike. It seems that the only people who didn't learn anything from this are the rabid neo-cons...as soon as they saw what happened, they grabbed their buckets of paint and proceeded to make that corner they're in, just a little bit smaller.

I wish I were a fly on the wall during the R "leadership" meetings after this...to hear "Oh shit" repeated over and over again would be sweet music to my ears...:D
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 08:20 AM
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35. President Obama should make it an exuctive order so he can spank them every week. YEAH.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 04:17 PM
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38. Ooh I would LOVE that.
Seriously how can we get this type of debate on a regular basis? All that posturing on CSPAN isn't what I'm looking for. I want the verbal smackdowns.
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NavyMom Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 04:09 PM
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37. CSPAN has offered to show this type of Q&A, the WH & Dems has agreed but the repud..nt
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 04:34 PM
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39. Then Brian Lamb can write them a letter complaining because they
won't air these sessions on C-SPAN. After all of the Republicans griping about Obama not being open it can certainly, and will, be turned back around on them. They stepped in it with their griping about Obama not being transparent enough. Now he's trying to be in a very public way and they are whining. Too bad.
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