kitfalbo
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Sat Jan-30-10 09:12 PM
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Go to Hulu and watch Their take on Obama's Q&A with the republicans. From ABC World News with Diane Sawyer.
First they call it an Obama speech which it was not, and is a strong misrepresentation. Implies notes or a teleprompter. Implies that it wasn't on the fly and that it was not a response based discussion. It feeds into the republican lecturing meme.
Well Watching it you'll figure 90% of the coverage is more for republicans and supports their talking points on the issues. Which if you actually watch the whole exchange is difficult to take away from the situation.
ABC are such d-bags.
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liberalmuse
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Sat Jan-30-10 09:13 PM
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1. I don't do Diane Sawyer. |
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I find her to be an innocuous corporate ass-kisser. That being said, their take on this is not surprising.
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MUAD_DIB
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Sun Jan-31-10 12:23 AM
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13. I have this running joke with my Wife. |
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Over breakfast 1-2 years ago we listening to Dianne talk (background clutter...I hated her even then...I actually hate most of GMA ditz patrol) about Braad and Angeleeena with this pouty kind of voice. I turned to my wife and asked her why it sounded like Dianne was tarting up and gushing over the pair of home wreckers?
Now every time she is on I do her Braad and Angeleena impersonation.
God, does she and her kind really suck it hard or what?
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patrice
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Sat Jan-30-10 09:24 PM
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2. When the history of this age is written, the world and all future generations will know |
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that American Media Royals are guilty of lying propaganda and conceit.
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depakid
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Sat Jan-30-10 09:28 PM
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3. "supports their talking points on the issues" |
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Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 09:29 PM by depakid
It amazes me that so many didn't see that coming. I mean, what does anyone think the point of this whole invitation and exercise was in the 1st place?
Why did the Republicans propose and engage in this dog and pony show? To get "schooled" by Obama?
Why yes, actually.
Take the Southern woman who ambled on and on with her health care propaganda. Obama basically had to ignore most of the laundry list she dumptrucked- but there he is engaging it- and legitimizing it even in the process of attempting to deflect and deflate the criticisms, demonstrating that some of their "workable" ideas had been incorporated- and showing how others had been rejected by "experts."
So Obama looks like the professor holding class with ignorant and ill considered sophomores? One one level (that no one see- and the media barely acknowledges, yep).
But on another level- and more importantly, the level that most people will actually see and hear about, Republicans are now seen as involved in and contributing productively to the process- no longer simply the party of no- but the party of alternative ideas that they're fighting for.
Hence- and I know many won't like this any better today than yesterday when I said it- Obama (and the Democrats) got played.
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patrice
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Sat Jan-30-10 10:01 PM
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7. You over-simplify - Hugely. |
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Sat Jan-30-10 10:06 PM
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10. It's called "abstracting" |
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from specifics to the general message (which in turn, feeds into the broader narrative).
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patrice
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Sun Jan-31-10 10:59 AM
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14. Some abstraction is valid, some isn't because it eliminates essential factors. |
patrice
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Sat Jan-30-10 09:31 PM
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4. ABC cannot abide the President's three main points: |
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1. Un-grounded policy assertions will not be taken seriously as negotiations. 2. Lies about deficits and budgets will not be passively tolerated. 3. Talking-point SELF-serving campaign rhetoric does not serve the interests of the People.
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depakid
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Sat Jan-30-10 09:44 PM
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5. Is someone actually out there reiterating these points? |
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If not, don't expect any airplay (much less for anyone to get them as the takeaway message from yesterday's gig).
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patrice
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Sat Jan-30-10 09:56 PM
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6. 75,676 views on YouTube and none of them extracted these 3 points from the video? |
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Edited on Sat Jan-30-10 09:57 PM by patrice
Okay, so maybe only 37,838 of the views understood what he said; that's not no one.
Why do you assume that those points must come by means of airplay? & that no one can get such things themselves; they have to be given to them . . . and if that doesn't happen, nothing happens . . . ?
edit: typo
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depakid
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Sat Jan-30-10 10:05 PM
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8. "Why do you assume that those points must come by means of airplay?" |
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Because that's how it works.
DU'ers implicitly understand that, too- as reflected in the massive amount of whining that goes on about Republican talking points being repeated over and over in the corporate media.
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patrice
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Sat Jan-30-10 10:07 PM
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11. as I said . . . a HUGE over-simplification and, essentially, a VERY |
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top-down assumption about the nature of how things happen.
There are no absolutes.
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patrice
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Sat Jan-30-10 10:05 PM
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9. P.S. I'd lay money (if I had any) that some of that applause in that video **IS** for |
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what President Obama said.
Small-to-medium size businesses WANT Health Care costs and Insurance brought under control.
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Sat Jan-30-10 10:20 PM
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12. This is exactly why each of us must do our part to make sure the video of the gop conference |
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goes viral, by emailing/facebooking/tweeting to as many people as possible. Tell your friends and family "don't believe the newspapers/cable news. watch it for yourself".
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