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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 05:01 PM
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Andrew Sullivan: Listen up, the president is not for turning
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/andrew_sullivan/article7009528.ece

Listen up, the president is not for turning

Obama’s state of the union address is a clear signal to critics on both the left and right
Congressman congratulate Obama after his address last Wednesday

Andrew Sullivan


We should know the pattern by now. Barack Obama has a way of seeming to let things drift, even dangerously so. His supporters start to panic; his enemies start to sniff confidence like a junkie out of a brown paper bag. Scott Brown’s remarkable victory in Massachusetts provided the glue, and the Republicans and the media almost passed out with the rush — and still the president remained somewhat aloof; distant.

As health insurance reform looked dead in the water, Obama seemed equally inert. The mood on the liberal blogs went from depression to panic. His presidency was over! Liberalism’s revival was a mirage! The atmosphere — and I wasn’t entirely immune to it myself — reminded me of the autumn of 2007, as Obama remained mired 30 points behind Hillary Clinton and seemed to be drifting back into obscurity; or when in 2008, after his stunning victory in Iowa, he lost New Hampshire and allowed the race to drag on for months. Or how healthcare reform seemed massacred by last summer’s town hall meetings, or how he chose to stay removed from the Iranian revolution last June.

And then there’s the comeback. This time, the setup was almost perfect: an already scheduled grand political speech playing to all of Obama’s strengths. And yet what was striking about the speech was how unlike Obama it was. It was conversational, self-deprecating, sometimes funny, intermittently aggressive, occasionally moving, conciliatory in tone. But what struck me most was not the delivery but the reception. I’ve listened to dozens of state-of-the-union speeches and I have rarely heard such a quiet talk meet such silence. It was the kind of silence that greets the truth.

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I do not know if Americans will respond to Obama’s reasoning, or if the short-term political posturing will dissipate. In the depressed economic climate, where tempers are high and anxiety is endemic, the odds of Obama succeeding seem remote. But what came through last Wednesday night, past the gentle conversational tone, was a determination to stay the course he set out in the campaign. “We don’t quit. I don’t quit” was his version of “the lady’s not for turning”. On Thursday Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, gave a similar pep talk: “You go through the gate. If the gate’s closed, you go over the fence. If the fence is too high, we’ll pole-vault in. If that doesn’t work, we’ll parachute in. But we’re going to get healthcare reform passed for the American people.”

With unemployment at 10%, who knows whether health reform can get passed, and whether Obama can build on that momentum for serious financial reform? What we do know is that he has not caved in or radically altered his agenda or lost his touch. He has done what Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher did at similar points in their first terms: dug in deep, with the same themes and same character he ran for office on. His poll ratings are almost identical to Reagan’s at this point, a moment when the entire political class wrote Reagan off.

We know how that story ended; we have no idea how this one will. But those who think this presidency is over are missing something. It is not just about Obama. It is about America at this particular moment in time. There’s a reason he was elected; and I have a feeling he reminded people of it last week. For all their legitimate anxiety, anger and bolshiness, my bet is they will not forget who is the only one acknowledging the depth of the crisis and proposing a way forward.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 05:07 PM
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1. Has Andrew given up promoting bareback sex
Or his love of Ronald Reagan?

Quoting, promoting Andy here is disgusting, vile, reprehensible --
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 05:09 PM
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3. +1
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 05:11 PM
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4. I like the way he writes and thinks. Are you suggesting people
shouldn't grow with more age and knowledge, but remain stagnant? Not very progressive of you.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 05:23 PM
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7. If they're into bashing President Obama
..they want to kill the messenger who has a positive analysis.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:41 AM
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9. Clever and insightful you aren't.
Andrew was a part of hosting a pro-barenacking website and has
never really disavowed his real Love of
Reagan.

Your good at posting crap fr others and piss
poor at understanding what they mean.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 10:26 AM
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15. And you're great at dodging and weaving without responding
to what I wrote. I'd heard of Sullivan's website and don't give a crap about who he used to like. Some people can grow; you I wonder about. :fistbump:
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 09:46 PM
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8. Get a grip, will you?
Andrew Sullivan has been supporting Obama for several years now, and has been more aggressive in taking on the lunatic fringe of the right than almost anyone else in the media.

Oh, but let me guess, he said something mean about Hillary, right?
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 02:03 AM
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10. Wow. That was kind of unnecessary.
Why the unprovoked personal attack?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 02:04 AM
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11. So you support bareback sex. Nt
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 11:16 AM
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16. no, knees are not strong enough. Having said that, Sullivan has been disassembling the far right w/
finesse. I am a fan, bigtime.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 10:20 AM
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13. have you read ANYTHING Sullivan has written in the last... Oh, say... 5 years?
apparently not.
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 10:21 AM
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14. Someone around here is close-minded and vile, but it ain't Andrew.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 02:06 AM
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21. Who knows, but it's OBVIOUS Andy has a crush!
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 10:45 AM
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23. You obviously haven't been reading Sullivan over the last few years.
It's your comments about his sex life that are disgusting, vile, reprehensible, and completely beside the point.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 05:09 PM
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2. K&R
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Bryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 05:11 PM
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5. Oh, brother
Sullivan giving Obama the same hero-worship he affords Reagan and Thatcher really doesn't help his credibility with me.

That said, I do have to give him a certain amount of credit for "his enemies start to sniff confidence like a junkie out of a brown paper bag".
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 05:20 PM
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6. Because it's not based on anything real..
"..his enemies start to sniff confidence like a junkie out of a brown paper bag."
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 09:28 AM
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12. "It was the kind of silence that greets the truth". ....well
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 05:44 PM
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17. Still showing his contempt for the left I see.
:thumbsdown:
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:07 AM
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18. Is it President Obama Or The Media Selling Us On Recycled Bush Policies As Populism...
Somehow the media has even sold many liberals on the idea that Big Government caused the recession, and the "populist" response is to ...wait for it...lower taxes and roll back regulations! That's right, you can be a populist by favoring big business! Look at cute little Scott Brown and his pick-up. Look at Carly Fiorina, former HP CEO, taking on liberal Barbara Boxer.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:24 AM
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19. Thank you for posting this
We do not have to agree with everything a writer has ever written to appreciate a piece like this.
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jesus_of_suburbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 02:05 AM
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20. ....
Edited on Tue Feb-02-10 02:05 AM by jesus_of_suburbia
I replied to the wrong person.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 02:28 AM
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22. Big difference between the campaign & now.
Then, he just needed to get into office. Now, he's there, and he has not only to right his course; congressional Democrats need to right their course--or they will have precious little to show together.
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