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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 06:34 PM
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Just wondering .Has the WH commented on the UCSD Incident?
It seems like this is a potentially explosive situation and worthy of commenting on or perhaps intervention by the WH. people marching, hanging nooses, screaming the N word and preaching hate are a sad reflection of race in America.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 06:38 PM
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1. nothing worth WH comments IMO
I think some folks thought that there are not racists among the college aged or something. Not all racists are southern old white guys wearing sheets. Many "educated" whites are racists too.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 06:42 PM
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3. But there was the beer summit.This seems more important. JMHO.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 06:49 PM
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5. Its not that simple
he was asked a specific question about the Gates incident, he answered honestly. A huge fire erupted in which the right wing, M$M, the whiny Cambridge PD and many fools on the left attacked him for even commenting. He held the "beer summit" so those frothing at the mouth could shut up.

After that brouhaha, you think he will come out on his own and comment on what is basically standard issue racism in America today? There is nothing shocking about the UCSD incident IMO. People need to open their eyes and realize that racism didn't vanish just because we have a black President.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:31 PM
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10. +10 It's interesting to me that some consider this such a vital issue
Edited on Mon Mar-01-10 09:36 PM by Number23
Seems to me that no one who has had regular, significant interaction with black people and other oppressed or disenfranchised minorities would consider this something extraordinary. And it's definitely not something that Obama needs to comment on, but I have a feeling that the OP is probably already aware of that fact.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:38 PM
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11. +10 n/t
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 09:50 PM
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12. ...
Edited on Mon Mar-01-10 10:20 PM by Number23
:hug:

I really miss you in AAIG. But I can totally understand. I'll be in the same boat next month when my donation runs out 'cause I ain't renewing mine either.
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 10:27 PM
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13. +10 more.
Edited on Mon Mar-01-10 10:28 PM by Bobbie Jo
Hammer meet nail.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 11:43 PM
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14. I consider this important enough to comment on. And the very fact that this is a
university setting and is openly done and with no inhibitions makes it notable. The fact that it was reported says it is notable.It is more notable than the issue with Prof.Gates, though Obama had more of a personal stake in that issue.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 12:00 AM
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17. "It is more notable than the issue with Prof.Gates"
Most thinking people would completely disagree with that. But please feel free to believe what you want.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 12:02 AM
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18. I do not agree, but you also can believe as you wish.
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 06:49 PM
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6. Its not that simple
he was asked a specific question about the Gates incident, he answered honestly. A huge fire erupted in which the right wing, M$M, the whiny Cambridge PD and many fools on the left attacked him for even commenting. He held the "beer summit" so those frothing at the mouth could shut up.

After that brouhaha, you think he will come out on his own and comment on what is basically standard issue racism in America today? There is nothing shocking about the UCSD incident IMO. People need to open their eyes and realize that racism didn't vanish just because we have a black President.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 06:39 PM
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2. WH doesn't like hot issues. Cool is the word now.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 06:44 PM
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4. It just seems odd, after the campaign speech on race, and the beer summit, that this is ignored.
If nothing else, it is potentially aligned with hate groups.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 06:49 PM
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7. I suppose the thought is that if the White Nationalist groups
are recognized they will grow by leaps and bounds. If you ignore something (like antiwar groups too) they will just go away by themselves and not disturb the calm DC corporatists.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 06:53 PM
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8. This is not about White Nationalism. Obama has a chance to really speak to UCSD students
and let them know he is on the side of justice. I think he needs to say something here, although, I know there is a risk that he will be heavily criticized for it.

My guess is that there is some communication behind the scenes.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 11:52 PM
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15. Is Obama always supposed to talk about race?
And the UCSD incident is hardly the most insidious example of racism in this country.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 12:23 AM
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20. Obama has spoken of it on other less combustible occasions.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 12:51 AM
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21. He spoke of Wright and Gates because of their personal connection to him.
Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 12:51 AM by Starbucks Anarchist
And he's tackling race where it really counts and where it's in his power to do something about it:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/29/obama-crack-sentencing-la_n_192799.html
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:55 AM
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25. The UCSD case has gone national and actual demonstrations are happening
That deserves some kind of comment, if not from Obama himself, then by his Secretary of Education, Arne Duncan.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-10 11:55 PM
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16. The white house doesn't need to comment on every local issue

...and this UCSD thing is a LOCAL issue.... especially since it turns out it was a black student who made a mistake and was not a racially-charged incident.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 12:03 AM
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19.  There is no claim the student who left the noose was "black".
Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 12:22 AM by saracat
She claims to be a "minority" who sympathizes with the black students.of course she also "claims' to have accidentally left the noose in the library. If you believe either of those statements.She also said it wasn't meant to be a negative racial connotation and she didn't want to add to the last weeks commotion. Really. and the students who threw the bigoted racist party for black history month weren't black nor was the campus TV personality who used the N word on the air..
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 10:29 AM
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26. Yes, I read her letter. It would seem if she were black she would have identified herself as black
Instead, she just said she is a member of a minority who sympathizes with black students. Some of the responses on this thread are just amazing. The bigotry demonstrated in the fliers for the 'party' turned my stomach.
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Nikki Stone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 02:00 AM
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22. Your post indicates that you don't know the facts. No black student did anything wrong
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 12:22 PM
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27. I also want to add, I think this is also something the Governor of California needs to address.
Where is Arnie on this?
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