Support for President's health care reform efforts

[ProSense]

[ProSense]

1. I love these responses. n/t

[vaberella]

2. I went for the first choice. However, I think I'd like it if the Pres. could disband the Senate.

nt

[damonm]

3. Yes. The usual idjits seem to be staying quiet...

...but the day IS young. :)

[DesertFlower]

4. i support it because it's a start.

hopefully it will be improved in the future.

[Oregone]

10. A start to where?

Where is the finish?

This start rejects socialism in its most moderate form by a liberal party and institutionalizes private, for-profit health insurance. If socialism is not the answer, as suggested by this very reform that repudiates it, do you expect to ever arrive at a egaltarian system that emphasises care for the population over profits for the coroporations?

[NJmaverick]

5. K&R

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

6. Um, why not offer the fouth option?

I have given up on the President but I support his efforts to reform healthcare

[Oregone]

9. By tying positive feelings of support for a charismatic president, they are push polling the reform

This is a horrendous example of how not to create a poll (as if a poll on DU means anything to the real world anyway)

[ProSense]

15. The fourth option: Other, specify. n/t

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

25. Seriously Kurt, the OP could offer every conceivable answer and you'd still find a way to object.

That's apparently your MO - never answer anything straight.

[activa8tr]

7. I have not given up, I do not LOVE this legislation, but I feel

anything is better than nothing!

For the folks who are without health care insurance, and for the folks who won't be shut off, or denied, I like those parts.
But there's SO MUCH MUCH MORE to be done.

Increase numbers of medical professionals
Decrease numbers of high paid non-medical people getting big salaries from insurance companies.
Design ways for hospitals to run full staff as non-profits, paying living and good wages to all employees without charging $200 for an aspirin to any patients.

If we could design a system to put all private capitalist health care companies out of business and go single payer with adequate safeguards and oversight, I think we could cut our national costs by 1/3 or more.

I'm not happy, but I'm still rooting for those denied and ineligible to get a better break than they have now.
No more bankruptcies for those who get sick.

[Oregone]

8. Id rather drink poison and move to Haiti

Why are you interjecting "support for the President" into a policy question? Thats like interjecting patriotic feelings for troops into a debate about whether or not a war is legal, just and necessary. I mean, who uses those tactics?

[ProSense]

11. Your choice. "Why are you interjecting "support for the President" into a policy question? "

Because I'm free?

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[ProSense]

13. "But why are you propagandizing to the choir? If people aren't smart enough..."

Aren't you protesting just a bit too much?

[Oregone]

14. Its a simple question that is easy to answer

If people aren't intelligent enough to recognize a manipulated poll, wouldn't they have probably already bought into the marketing campaign?

[Beetwasher]

24. That's A Good Idea! I'll Buy The Poison

Have fun!

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[ProSense]

17. I also "forgot" this choice

I never supported Obama, and I'm bitter beyond belief.

[Kalun D]

19. How About

I'm living in a dream world and actually think the corporate Obama is going to do something, anything, for the working class. Unfortunately I'm still waiting.

[Kalun D]

21. Better To Be Bitter

than to go on believing someone who has lied repeatedly.

[ProSense]

22. Some people need to adjust their selective hearing.

Or stay bitter.

[denimgirly]

18. Obama broke my Heart when he jumped in bed with the Industry. *sigh*

I just cant support a reform if at its core it helps the industry more than the people.

[Kalun D]

20. Obama's FAUX "health care reform"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/the-real-reason-obamas-pl_b_473924.html

The Real Reason Obama's Plan Doesn't Include a Public Option

Obama made a backroom deal last summer with the for-profit hospital industry that there would be no meaningful public option.

This is one of the great under-reported stories of the health reform saga. Much has been written about the Obama administration's deal with big Pharma to continue to block Medicare from negotiating for lower drug prices or to allow consumers to buy cheaper drugs from Canada.

But Obama's deal with the for-profit hospital lobby to insure there would be no public option has, as best I can tell, only been reported in two articles in The New York Times.

"Several hospital lobbyists involved in the White House deals said it was understood as a condition of their support that the final legislation would not include a government-run health plan paying-Medicare rates...or controlled by the secretary of health and human services. 'We have an agreement with the White House that I'm very confident will be seen all the way through conference', one of the industry lobbyists, Chip Kahn, director of the Federation of American Hospitals, told a Capitol Hill newsletter...Industry lobbyists say they are not worried 'We trust the White House,' Mr. Kahn said."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/13/health/policy/13health.html

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23. #4

What effort? :shrug: