Dennis Speaks For Me

[Dinger]

He does not support the pharma/insurance giveaway that is being called "reform."

He is speaking against mandates too. "

"You're voting on privatizing our health care system."

"What they have proposed so far isn't any different than what I've voted against."

He's pissed and I don't blame him."

Go get 'em Dennis!:patriot: :headbang:

[tallahasseedem]

1. Great!

The Republicans appreciate your support in defeating the bill.

[Dinger]

10. I Don't Give A Shit. It's A Shit Bill Giveaway To Big Pharma And Big Insurance (nt)

[Hansel]

21. Doing nothing to regulate insurance companies is an even bigger give away. nt

[tallahasseedem]

48. Yet you will be...

one of the first on here bitching if the Dems lose in November. Keep it up, Boehner, Palin and Cantor appreciate your support!

[Dinger]

51. they Don't Have My Fucking Support

Get real.

[laughingliberal]

52. I think if the Dems cared about winning in November, they would work on a good bill. nt

[Dinger]

56. Agreed (nt)

[spiritual_gunfighter]

108. A OP was written for you today

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7876057&mesg_id=7876057

[Dinger]

119. Thank You For The Heads Up (nt)

[stray cat]

2. Would you feel the same way if your income was low enough that you would get free health insurance?

or you could not get coverage at all because of a pre-existing condition. In some ways I am against the bill as well and it might should be voted down - but don't simply forget the people who it helps that we doom by not voting for it.

[ProSense]

3. Kucinich can't kill the bill. He voted no and it passed.

He will vote no, and still be irrelevant.

[flpoljunkie]

4. Thought Dennis seemed defensive. 'If not now, when? If not us, who?' -President Obama today

I don't think Pelosi was counting on his vote, anyway. It's all about Dennis.

[IndianaGreen]

5. He speaks for me too, on health care and on the criminal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan

[Dinger]

11. Thank You (nt)

[Maat]

96. +1

Yep.

[Name removed]

6. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[IndianaGreen]

7. How many civilians have we killed in Afghanistan since Obama escalated the war?

Why should we allow the health insurance companies to continue to rape us, with our money?

[Dinger]

13. Good Fucking Question

Thank you!

[ProSense]

20. How does killing the bill prevent the insurers from continuing to "rape us, with our money?"

Hyperbole that doesn't even make sense.

[IndianaGreen]

32. The Senate's HCR does not prevent the insurance companies from raping us

Only a public option can introduce competition into a field that is essentially a monopoly.

[Phx_Dem]

122. I know we've killed a whole lot of terrorists.

[Starry Messenger]

15. lulz

*irony alert*

[Name removed]

16. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[liberalmuse]

8. He sure as hell doesn't vote for me.

All that will be left on the Congressional record is his vote, which is more in line with the Republicans than not.

[Dinger]

14. Dennis A repuke?

You HAVE to be kidding.

[O is 44]

25. Might as well be his NO vote is right there with the

Republicans, you can't deny that.

[laughingliberal]

58. The difference is he would change his vote if the bill were better. The (R)'s won't

Why is it the Blue Dog, DLC asshats get catered to every time they fart out a new demand but a progressive who wants improvement to the bill is villified?

[IndianaGreen]

24. There are hundreds of workers in Cleveland whose jobs were saved by Dennis

Jobs that were going out of state as part of the Base Realignment And Closure (BRAC) process.

[dionysus]

9. good, maybe he'll take you for a ride on his magic unicorn.

and show you the enchanted shoe he lives in.

[Dinger]

17. Well I Still Have Hope

Despite attempts like yours to crush it.

[AllentownJake]

71. Does it shit gold

like mandated insurance does.

[Dinger]

72. LOL, Damn

You cut right through the shit AJ, like a hot knife through butter.:rofl: :applause:

[AllentownJake]

73. You aren't telling me I live in a fantasy land

When the guy trying to sell me mandated insurance said

"If mandates were the solution, we could mandate everyone to buy houses to solve homelessness."

I liked that guy, whatever happened to him. :shrug:

[Dinger]

74. Same Here (nt)

[laughingliberal]

84. ROFL!! nt

[Born_A_Truman]

85. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaa!

:rofl:

[girl gone mad]

124. Maybe we can just mandate that eveyone buy unicorns.

then we'll all be happy. right?

[Cha]

12. dennis is irrelevant...we'll get it done

while he sits on his regressive thumbs.

[Dinger]

18. DENNIS Is A HERO!

Got that!!

[dionysus]

22. by being a token no vote? please explain exactly how being an inconsequential backbencher

makes one heroic...

[Dinger]

28. Some People Vote Their Conscience

And they vote on principle. In other words, politics does not drive their vote. I like that. Sorry if it bothers you.

[suzie]

98. So, all those times Kucinich voted anti-choice, it was on principle.

And then when he had the magic presidential campaign moment and changed to voting pro-choice, that was also on principle.

Wow, someone for whom politics does not matter, only principle.

[IndianaGreen]

29. If Dennis vote is only a token one, why are you guys so bent out shape about it?

It seems like a disproportionate and irrational reaction to such an insignificant vote.

BTW, it was the Labour backbenchers in the UK that turned out to be right about the war in Iraq.

[dionysus]

46. i'm not bent out of shape about him, i laugh at his ineffectual ass.

:hi:

[Moochy]

83. unlike your mountain of civic accomplishments

:hurts: <-- this is where you are most effective.

[dionysus]

100. heh, you guys seem to be bent out of shape that outside of political junkies on message boards,

no one even knows who the clown is...
:shrug:

[Moochy]

101. That you only attack liberals is obvious

Why is not as clear.

[dionysus]

103. no, just ineffectual ones like DK, or the crybaby types...

:shrug:

[Moochy]

109. Ah There is the centrist condescension we all love so much!

What a compelling and worthwhile exchange, given your goals.

[dionysus]

111. hey, one day, you may just get your unicorn ride.

[Moochy]

115. And one day you will feel guilty for being such a

Sanctimonius loyalty flak. Hey miracles can happen.

[girl gone mad]

125. with the unicorn mandate?

[laughingliberal]

59. It's a great question. Here's a recap on threads about Dennis:

He of no consequence!


HE'S KILLING HCR and SENTENCING MILLIONS TO DEATH!!!

[dionysus]

102. hmm, let's go over that statement;

He of no consequence! (sic)
correct

HE'S KILLING HCR and SENTENCING MILLIONS TO DEATH!!!

nah, he doesn't have any power... he's just a self-serving egotistical douchebag

[CBR]

27. A hero?!??????

:wtf:

[Cha]

39. kucinich is a ZERO...make that a fookin' ZERO.

[IndianaGreen]

45. If Dennis is a zero, why do you get bent out of shape about his vote?

He is either relevant or irrelevant, he can't be both!

Except in a multiverse universe!

[mzmolly]

76. I hope so.

:hi:

[liquid diamond]

93. It's funny how people say Obama is all talk

and then bow down to the Ohio munchkin like he's God. Talk about hypocrisy.

[dionysus]

104. !

:spray:

[Hansel]

19. Dennis speaks for Dennis and no one else. He's got an ego the size of Texas.

He's really no different that Joe Lieberman IMO. He's incapable of putting his own self-centered ego stroking aside long enough to do what is best for his constituents. He's mad because he didn't get his way on single payer. Tough.

Dennis needs to act like an adult and stop demonstrating why he will never be president.

[Dinger]

23. Oh Boy, Now dennis=LIEberman???

Wow.

[dionysus]

26. not the same per se, just the flip side of the coin.

[Dinger]

30. Thank You For The Clarification (nt)

[laughingliberal]

60. Not exactly. Lieberman seems to get what he wants whenever he farts out a demand

Rahm, himself, goes to Harry Reid to demand Lieberman gets what he wants. Progressives just get slapped.

[Hansel]

33. Yes. He's not there to legislate. He's there for himself.

Someday, when you get done with your hero worship, you figure that out. Just because you are on the same side on the issues, doesn't mean he's not motivated by the same self-centered ego stroking. He's a child who throws temper tantrums because he doesn't get his way. I see little difference between the two other than the issues that demand everyone agree with them on.

[Dinger]

35. I Don't Do Hero Worship

Unless it's Johnny Cash.

[Hansel]

37. Then you might want to edit your post up the line. nt

[Dinger]

44. No I Don't

It was a response, not a philosophy. Well, o.k., maybe I should have said Johnny Cash is a favorite of mine. How's that?

[CBR]

38. "DENNIS Is A HERO! Got that!!" nt

[Hansel]

40. Okay. nt

[CBR]

41. I am posting what the OP said upthread nt

[suzie]

97. Great post.

[Peacetrain]

31. When Dennis comes down out of his Ivory Tower.. and helps people like my brother

talk to me.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x8590485


How special of him and his "values"...

[IndianaGreen]

34. Senate HCR won't help your brother one iota

Stop kidding yourself.

[Dinger]

36. Exactly (nt)

[Peacetrain]

42. Bull Hockey.. My brother would be completely covered by the current plan

He is a dishwasher..He would be under a grant for low income people.. so who is kidding who here

[dionysus]

47. the same people who call obama supporters cultists.. dare i say... worship DK.

it's ironic.

[laughingliberal]

61. And he can afford the $2000 deductible on a dishwasher's wages? nt

[girl gone mad]

126. I'm afraid he's going to be much worse off.

Forced to buy insurance or pay fines, but he won't be able to afford the deductibles and co-pays. He might get check ups and screening, but it would be more cost effective for him to just pay out of pocket for those.

I hope he forgives you for supporting this nonsense.

[Name removed]

43. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Name removed]

49. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Dinger]

50. Tough Shit. We Can Do Better.

A lot better.

[jefferson_dem]

53. Fine.

Tell me how. Seriously. I want to know specifics. How do we get something "better"?

You are right. It will be tough shit for us if reform fails.

[Dinger]

55. We Could START With A ROBUST Public Option And No Fucking Madate

I'd change my fucking tune then, yes I would.

[jefferson_dem]

62. That's a worthy goal but politically unattainable.

This reform package is barely hanging on by the thinnest string. Don't you think we would be seeing what you want -- which is more robust - if it could pass? In fact, this more tepid bill couldn't even pass the Senate now with Brown installed into Teddy's seat. So...your goal sounds great...but there's zero chance it will happen.

So, I ask again -- HOW (not what) do we get something better?

[laughingliberal]

63. So, we aren't going to see the Senate pass a bill to fix anything under reconciliation?

Is that just smoke being blown up the House's skirt? You know, once again?

[jefferson_dem]

64. I fully expect (and will demand) the Senate FIX the bill via reconciliation.

That's the "sidecar" to the reform bill which the House must vote on. Not sure if a public option will be part of that ... but I hope so.

[laughingliberal]

68. And I believe if there is some way the House progressives could be reassured the Senate really will

pass improvements they will vote for it. The campaign to hammer 50 votes out of the Senate for a PO under reconciliation continues. Perhaps a little heat from a House progressive will encourage the fence sitters. I believe DK would vote for this bill if he thought he would come down to the deciding vote. I don't think it will come down to that 1 vote but I'm not going to fault him for using what leverage he may have to improve the bill when the Blue Dogs basically got everything they wanted with their obstructionism.

[Dinger]

70. Yes

and thank you.:)

[zulchzulu]

54. Dennis Speaks Out of His Failed Ass

The guy has done nothing except pad his wallet with contributions from suckers who thought he would be a serious candidate. Then he got less votes than Al Sharpton. Less than 2%.

He has done nothing for the Democratic Party except offer an embarrassing figure of self-absorbed asshattery to the Freepers.

Resign Kucinich. Sell moon crystals at some fucking mall, you dork.

[Dinger]

57. Flamebait Attempt to Have this Thread Locked

In my very humble opinion.

[laughingliberal]

69. +1000 nt

[dionysus]

99. actually it was a funny, yet apt statement.

:shrug:

[jefferson_dem]

67. +1.

I appreciate the anger and frustration.

In my view, Kooch isn't "weighty" enough to deserve it. Dismiss the irrelevant irritating gadfly.

[Dinger]

114. -1

[Bobbie Jo]

80. +1000

[Dinger]

116. -1,001

[liquid diamond]

95. Bwahahaha

Don't you notice how every time a thread about this douche is started, things get ugly?
:rofl:

[suzie]

113. +5,000

[DesertRat]

65. Me too. k&r

[Dinger]

66. Thank You DesertRat (nt)

[mzmolly]

75. Who speaks for children with pre-existing

conditions?

[FrenchieCat]

78. Obviously I'm unable to.....as I tried, but instead,

I was accused of the unthinkable; using a child that I am related to in promoting the idea of insuring children with pre-existing conditions! The child is no longer a child; he is now a "card",
because I've posted his pic 3 times too many!

[mzmolly]

79. How dare you share a personal

story to put a human face on health care reform Frenchie Cat! :sarcasm:

In all seriousness, I'm sorry about your family member. I hope he'll be able to receive coverage soon, ala new legislation. :hi:

[FrenchieCat]

87. Yep.......that would alleviate a big worry from my family.

I only have one Brother...and two nephews.
He is the youngest of the bunch, younger than
my daughters as well. I don't wish on anyone
what his parents have had to go through.

[mzmolly]

88. I too have a nephew

that survived cancer. Stage four neuroblastoma at age four. It's a horrible situation for any family. Thankfully he's in his early twenties today, but his body and brain were irreparably ravaged.

Again, I'm sorry about your little family member.

[FrenchieCat]

90. The little guy had his diagnosis at age 18 months......

He was declared cancer free last year (takes 5 years),
after fighting through Melanoma state 3-4....which I understand
is extra rare in children as young as he was at the time....
I believe that they had never seen a case in one so young,
as Melanoma is something one develops over time normally.
He was just over at St. Jude in Memphis last month for his
annual check up. Thank God for St. Jude!!

Problem of course is that unless HCR goes through,
insurance companies will continue to not want to touch him.

[mzmolly]

92. My goodness. What an ordeal.

I'm so glad he's cancer free today FC.

Thanks again for sharing your story and putting a human face on the continuing tragedy of accepting the status-quo on health care.

[girl gone mad]

127. I think people just don't understand why you're so eager to use his personal story..

to score points for Obamacare, when you are in a position to offer him financial support that would get him the care he you say he needs and lacks.

It's a bit of a disconnect.

[Vidar]

77. K&R.

[slipslidingaway]

81. Me too and the smear Kucinich campaign is in full swing tonight! n/t

[Bobbie Jo]

82. Only to temporarily replace the smear Obama campaign.

...but now that you're here, it can resume as scheduled.

[slipslidingaway]

86. Point out a thread where I have smeared Obama, most of my posts

about Obama point out the disconnect between what he says and what he does.

Please back up your allegations.

I'll look for your reply.

[Bobbie Jo]

89. I know they're out there

...and so do you.


"most of my posts about Obama point out the disconnect between what he says and what he does."

They amount to smears.

This is my observation. Beyond that, I owe you nothing.

One snarky comment deserves another.

[slipslidingaway]

91. You have nothing! ....

"I know they're out there..."

Before accusing anyone of smearing someone else I already know that I can point to certain posts.

This is a pretty sorry excuse.

"This is my observation. Beyond that, I owe you nothing."

[angelicwoman]

94. Almost always, he speaks for me too n/t

[Phx_Dem]

105. Dennis is the Jim Bunning of healthcare reform.

He's no better than Stupak either. They all think it's up to them to derail something the majority agrees on because they disagree.

Dennis has always been a pacficist and an embarrassment, now he's an obstructionist as well.

[Phx_Dem]

106. Dennis has convinced me NEVER to vote for a progressive,

regardless who they're running against. If someone is going to derail healthcare, I'd prefer it to be a Republican.

[Name removed]

117. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Bluenorthwest]

118. So you will not support the Democrat, and you at times

prefer the Republican. Clear.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

107. He speaks for me, as well.

I an thankful that someone get it, and is willing to speak out and vote accoordingly.

His was clear and concise as to what was wrong with the bill adn why he would not be suporting it. He voiced all of my concerns about, what I find to be, the selling out of the American people to the health insurance industry.

Thank you Dennis.

[thelordofhell]

110. I only listen to Dennis.........

Because he has a hot wife.

[David Zephyr]

112. K&R.

David vs. Goliath! Go Dennis!

[DevonRex]

120. ROFL. Nobody listens to him except Ron Paul.

So I'm really, really sorry that Dennis is the one speaking for you.

[Phx_Dem]

121. I wonder if Kuchinich is really delusional enough to believe that

if this HCR bill doesn't pass, there will be another? There won't. This it

According to Dennis the status quo is not good for insurance companies since he obviously wants to keep things as they are.

I hope Ohioans vote this little piece of shit out of office at first chance.

[slipslidingaway]

123. kick for Dennis - where was the control on premiums in the House or

Senate bill?

:shrug: