Cenk from the TYT thinks the signing of the Dem's on the public option is smoke and mirrors

[bigdarryl]

he thinks they are all saying yes because they know the public option isn't going nowhere.Sometimes in my opinion Cenk is to NEGATIVE about everything when it comes to the Democrats.Most of his hour long show is DOOM and GLOOM and he takes no calls which is stupid.

[bigdarryl]

1. One other thing is it true Jake used to be a Conservative

anyone know

[thereismore]

14. Yes he was republican before. He said so himself. nt

[hlthe2b]

2. Do you mean Cenk?

Cenk Uygur?

[bigdarryl]

3. YEP My mistake

[Cha]

4. Yeah, he's good when he's going after

republicons and some facts do come out but he's got the whole drama attention thing goin' on too.

I've finally just stopped reading anything of his.

[Change Happens]

5. By Adam Green?

[TheKentuckian]

6. At this point the whole concept seems more of a carrot than actual policy

to me.

I think they only roll it out to keep folks onboard with the overall scam and even if they get backed into a corner and have add a "public option" it will be firewalled to death and effectively be used as a dumping ground for "undesirables" to shield big insurance from risk.

These are the same fucks that hobbled the whole deal with state pools to willfully keep bargaining power down, locked about 85% of the population out of the exchanges, and left anti-trust in effect. They have no intent of doing the right thing. The entire plan is designed to prop up rather than to reform the system.

[Sebastian Doyle]

7. Cenk might well have a point.

I mean Bill Fucking Nelson apparently just signed on. Do you really think that DINO wants a Public Option?

[Hell Hath No Fury]

10. Wow. I had not heard that.

Looks like a rat trying to stay afloat, to me.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

8. I am afraid of that too.

This could be seen as applying a political fig leaf for Dems hoping to point to show their willingness to vote with Americans on the PO. It would come in handy come election time.

[vaberella]

9. Cenk has his own opionion and he's a right to it. I don't and never agreed with him 100%.

So meh...I don't care if he thinks it's smoke and mirrors. I think we're getting something done.

[hulka38]

11. If that's what he said then I think he is absolutely correct.

The PO never really had a chance and that was due to the WH and Democratic leadership not wanting it. Cenk will catch hell for this. People with microphones in front of cameras telling the truth is always a positive as far as I'm concerned.

[Imajika]

12. Ofcourse it is smoke and mirrors...

People getting excited about these Senators signing on to the PO are fooling themselves.

The White House is not pushing for it and does not want it. There is no real support for it in the Senate. Those that sign on are just doing this for a show so as not to deeply offend the progressive base of the party. They know it isn't even being considered. I really don't understand how people can be so gullible sometimes.

[hulka38]

15. The way the Democratic leadership is trying to weasel out of this is deeply insulting.

They are really alienating people now.

[salguine]

13. Ever considered the possibility that he's right?

[denimgirly]

18. Thank you!

[NYC Democrat]

16. He might be right but seriously he's has become way to paranoid in recent months.

[harun]

26. You don't think it's justified? Look at the results we are getting. Congress hasn't done

anything we elected them to do.

[denimgirly]

17. Cenk is ALMOST ALWAYS RIGHT...He has an extraordinary track record for political predictions

[Clio the Leo]

19. I've wondered this myself....

.... they're saying they "would" vote for it so that when election time rolls around, they can say "I would have voted for a public option" or "I was in support of a public option..."

I'd love to be wrong though.

[DFLforever]

20. I think he's on to something here, though I usually tune him out.

I suspect the deal done for reconciliation excludes consideration of a PO.
At this point only Sen. Lincoln is nixing reconciliation. Significantly, the important chairmen in this process, Harkin, Baucus, Conrad and Rockefeller haven't signed on even though in the past two of them have been among the PO's strongest supporters.

Sen. Sherrod Brown is talking a separate PO bill as is Grayson in the House. I think if we do get a PO, it will come from later legislation, not the current HCR bill.

[Raineyb]

21. I think Cenk is right.

And I bet nothing happens with this fix they've been talking about. I've hard that "pass it now fix it later" BS before. NAFTA anyone?

And why the hell would they care. Every one of those congress-critters have health insurance and they don't have to worry about not being able to afford co-pays and deductibles.

[IndianaGreen]

22. Has this Senate done anything to inspire confidence in any of us?

They are thieves and crooks, who serve only the corporations that line their pockets. The handful of Senators that are worth a damn aren't enough to overcome the stench of corruption of this Senate.

Their signatures on a piece of paper is as believable as Herr Hitler signature in that piece of paper that Neville Chamberlain waived after he landed in Britain from Munich.

[dflprincess]

23. So what happens if the House passes the scam the Senate sent them

and then the Senate double crosses them on reconciliation? Whose turn is it to send the "strongly worded letter"?

[IndianaGreen]

24. The people are screwed!

And they will respond in kind at the ballot box.

[harun]

25. Cenk is right and taking callers would just waste time. He does lots of fun bits on

his show. Hardly gloomy.

[jeanpalmer]

27. The PO isn't part of the Senate bill

and including it in the fix would almost certainly violate the Byrd rule, so what's the big fuss about it. It ain't going anywhere, it's just pr.

[hulka38]

28. What's the big fuss? You've got 40 senators signing some BS agreement

saying they'll support a PO when they know damn well it was never going to happen in order to placate the base. They are actively and knowingly misleading their strongest supporters.

It also shows they think we're stupid :D