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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 05:09 PM
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Can Republicans repeal a bill without Obama's signature?
I hear them saying they'll run to repeal HCR. Good luck running to tell sick people w/ a pre existing condition that they'll be taking their insurance away.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 05:13 PM
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1. No.. they'd have to get a bill passed that repeals. then override Obama's
Edited on Fri Mar-12-10 05:13 PM by hlthe2b
veto (assuming that to be the case). Not easy to do under any circumstance, or our laws and legislative process would be even more haphazard than they already are.
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 05:38 PM
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5. Yea if i recall to ovrride a veto requires 2/3 of both houses of Congress?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 05:41 PM
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6. Yes.. that's right.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 05:41 PM
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7. Even if they get a majority they won't get close to the required number
needed to overturn a Presidential veto.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 05:17 PM
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2. To pass a repeal they would need:
1) a presidential signature;
2) a 2/3 vote to override a presidential veto; or
3) the president to neither sign nor veto within ten working days, provided that Congress remains in session.

So, to repeal HCR, they would need a majority in both houses to vote to do so and a president to cooperate, or 2/3 of each house to vote to override a presidential veto.

In short, it ain't gonna happen.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 05:22 PM
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3. They mean they will run in their election with the platform of working...
toward repealing the bill if they are elected/re-elected.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 05:57 PM
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8. Which means they'll be running on wasting their time! Obama would veto.
And they couldn't override without 67 votes. And they WON'T get a majority this November anyway, so I guess running on wasting everyone's time is as good as anything they could run on.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 06:01 PM
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9. Yep, they won't get a super-majority at all, it's doubtful they will...
get enough seats to even become a bare majority, imo, and the reforms will have been in place for two years before they can try again. It is just more empty rhetoric to appeal to the rabid right, no surprise there.
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 05:23 PM
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4. Sure
but they have to wait at least 7 years until Obama isn't President any more.

It ain't likely as noted in the above posts, but when have they ever let reality get in the way of their rhetoric?
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 06:51 PM
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10. But if the get a one vote majority in the Senate
That means when either Justice Stevens or Ginsburg retire, the Republican majority get the say on who Obama gets on the Supreme Court.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-10 07:02 PM
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11. I have news for you

The Republicans want the bill to pass

They will run against it and gain a few seats

They also will not have to come up with an alternative.

In the future they will own it like they did with Social Security and proclaim themselves as protectors and saviors.
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