Republicans are scared to their very core right now. Petrified ! It is plain as day.

[RBInMaine]

Healthcare will pass, and when the public sees it was DEMOCRATS who finally had the GUTS to break the century-old logjam on healthcare reform and that the sky has not fallen because of it, and the system actually gets better, they know damn well Dems will be CREDITED and REWARDED. Dems WILL also pass more jobs bills, a banking bill, and an energy bill. The economy will most likely be doing somewhat better by fall. And what do the RePUKES offer? Just say "NO!" And nothing more. Bank on it. The RePUKES are scared shitless. THAT is why they are trying to kill everything. It is their ONLY hope for major gains in the fall. Well, I think the asshats are in for a little surprise. Americans want ACTION, and Dems are working to deliver it. The RePUKES are going to be seen as THE PARTY OF NO and NOTHING. That's all folks.

[AnnieBW]

1. Yep. They're crapping their pants. You can see it.

These teabaggers are nothing. Stay strong, Dems! Eyes on the prize!

[RBInMaine]

2. The Teabaggers are no "new movement." They are just racist RePUKES now shouting in public.

[Enthusiast]

24. Yes, but many Teabaggers

are completely unaware of this. Some are getting clue now that the GOP is trying to rein them in.

[RBInMaine]

26. I hear you, but it's bullshit. They are ALREADY Republicans overwhelmingly.

[AlinPA]

38. You got that exactly right. nt

[Bobbie Jo]

62. They're Republicans embarrassed to call themselves Republicans. nt

[RBInMaine]

3. Yup. And some in their own circles are already saying they don't want to be seen as the party of NO

[awoke_in_2003]

87. Then maybe they should stop saying it

:)

[grantcart]

51. Actually they are frightened because the demographic break

with people under the age of 30 shows a sharp reduction in Republican numbers.

Having alienated minorities, gays and unions the only group that can replenish their numbers are evangelicals and young evangelicals support the Republican party in sharply reduced numbers.

[Lint Head]

4. The Democratic Congress better get on the ball because so far

they have done very little. George Bush is still a war criminal and nobody cares.

[RBInMaine]

9. Bush is gone. Actually, quite a lot HAS been done, and more is right on the way.

[Lint Head]

15. Like? Bush is not gone. He is still free. Cheney is still free.

If you commit a crime you go to jail. Why is it OK for war criminals and thieves to be free?

[RBInMaine]

22. They're assholes, but it's not a national priority. Jobs and healthcare are.

[dionysus]

44. because, in case you didn't know, as criminal as they were, americans aren't too keen on charging

them with crimes punishable by death or life imprisonment. they just aren't.

[Atticus]

56. And more is the goddamn pity! nt

[quiet.american]

5. Well said, and besides that, they've turned into The Party of Ayn Rand - downright scary.nt

[SkyDaddy7]

72. Do Tea Baggers even know...

that Ayn Rand was an Atheist?

Excellent video!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTmac2fs5HQ

[awoke_in_2003]

88. damn, I have something

in common with that loon :(

[SkyDaddy7]

89. Yeah, same here!

It seems Ayn Rand's rational thinking falls apart when profits are the issue!

[depakid]

6. The Republicans are looking at kicking the Democrats sorry asses out of the majority

come November- and you think they're "scared?"

Wow.

Some people's disconnect with reality just boggles the mind.

All they need to do is stick together and watch the Democrats squabble among themselves and make one excuse after another, while alienating their constituencies and pandering to whatever corporate interest some Senator wants a payoff from. And Voila!

Out the Democrats go en masse.

[RBInMaine]

8. And so just why are you not on Freepland you naysaying nanny?

[depakid]

16. Because I live in the reality based community

The place where we're honest about what's happening in the world of politics and use evidence to back up our opinions.

[RBInMaine]

19. See my other reply to your nannygoat naysaying.

[RBInMaine]

23. Really? In the community that thinks Kucinich or Nader can be President?

[depakid]

37. Has less to do with your "centrism" and much more to do with credibility and solving problems

Cats won't up and change their stripes- and I expect much more of the same in the coming months, starting with financial reform.

Obama isn't going to marshal populist anger and resentment any differently than he has (it's not in his nature) and we'll see one two bit extortionist or "naysayer" in the Senator after another holding up popular and effective legislation.

The only power move we've seen was with student loan reforms- which due to parliamentary procedures (and the reluctance to use them when necessary and appropriate) is unlikely to be repeated.

People are tired of the excuses. Democratic constituencies in base are tired of the repeated insults and no one wants to see crap legislation passed that panders to Wall Street and corporate interests over those of ordinary Americans.

Yet that's what's on the plate.

And you think Republicans are "scared?"

Their strategists are sitting in their offices just laughing at you.

[dionysus]

46. i like how you label everyone that doesn't agree with you as a "centrist"

it's weak, but whatever floats your boat i guess...

[depakid]

49. It's a direct response to the post above

That you're apparently too obtuse to grasp that- well, one can't really say that they're surprised.

[dionysus]

50. you've cut me to the quick!

you're a riot man
:rofl:

[quaker bill]

58. Play chess?

heard of over developing your pieces? Here is the gambit, I live in one of the worst hit areas of the housing crisis at the center of the current recession. The economy here is recovering. It has been since December 09. I am still getting new stimulus projects and the money isn't even half spent. The rest is coming out soon.

The strategists are about to have the rug pulled out from beneath them. It will happen too late for them to make effective adjustments.

Republicans will win a few off year seats, and if they are lucky, it will balance against their losses.

[dionysus]

45. the "reality based" community? that's a good one!

:rofl:

[depakid]

47. Yep- most of us who actually think before they act or post tend to believe so

Sometimes of course, it only comes with age and maturity.

[AlinPA]

32. What? depakid to Freeperland? depakid's been around for as long as DU has.

That's a bad accusation.

[RBInMaine]

35. Sorry, but that severe negativity and naysaying is bigtime counterproductive. Works well at Freep-

land though.

[depakid]

42. Unbridled polyannaism in the present situation is far worse

Not that anyone paying attention buys your shtick but it sets up unrealistic expectations- and inevitable disappointment.

Far better to recognize the gravity of the situation- and urge your reps to grow some cojones before it's too late.

[fooj]

69. Wow. Just wow.

I see it as honesty and truth. You see, anyone can "label" anything or anybody, can't they? You've certainly attempted it.

Don't piss on our leg and tell us it's raining. Nothing Obama promised to deliver is in this bill. NOTHING.

[flyarm]

14. absofuckinglutely!! eom

[RBInMaine]

17. Horsecrap! If they get these bills passed, and they WILL, and the economy continues to inch better,

the RePUKES will gain some seats, but will NOT re-take the majority. Ain't gonna happen. And yes, they are scared shitless that the dream scenario for them you espouse will NOT happen after all and that their "JUST SAY NO" tactic will backfire. It is a political LIFETIME to November. So, piss off and go whine and naysay somewhere else.

[sellitman]

7. No public option.....Meh

Without a minimum of of public option this Healthcare bill will not work and will do little good. I wouldn't get so happy with our chances. The bill as it is stinks. Is it better than nothing? I'm not so sure it is unless you are a Insurance company about to welcome in 30 Million new paying customers.

[RBInMaine]

10. BS. Krugman, Grayson, Sanders, Sherrod,...all agree it is a START. So whine

and naysay somewhere else.

[Enthusiast]

28. Nope.

Without a public option a mandate will only serve to alienate the electorate. The electorate should be our main concern. The thing is, we don't have to enact a HCR bill without a public option.

[RBInMaine]

30. Nope to you. I agree with a PO. I'd like single payer. But at least this is a START. So GOOD.

[Enthusiast]

39. The same forces at

work behind the scene preventing the public option will continue to prevent it even after HCR is enacted. So, rather than "a start" I consider it a finish.

[fooj]

70. No single payer. No Public Option. No competitive drug prices.

Yippee. I think we ought to throw a fucking party. :eyes:

[Bryn]

13. Thumb Up!

:thumbsup:

This bill is useless without public option.

[Sheepshank]

18. perhaps you could delineate what part of the bill stinks

what part of getting rid of pre-existing conditions stinks? What part of no lifetime caps stinks? The negativity meme about not getting everything with the cherry on the top HCR Bill, is worse than nothing, is getting old and worn out.

[RBInMaine]

21. Damn well said. It is a START that has some good pieces. The naysayers can piss off.

[sellitman]

36. Sure sounds familiar

Jump on the bandwagon or get the fuck out of Dodge.

Without a minimum of a public option the Bill is just a gift to the Insurance Lobby.

[bvar22]

54. We didn't have to eat the whole shit pie to get a few good pieces.

Last week, the House easily passed a bill removing the Anti-Trust Exemption from the HC Industry.
The few good pieces could have been passed the same way.

We do NOT have to accept Mandated Profits for Health Insurance Industry to make exclusions for Pre-existing conditions illegal.

Regulations?...pffft.
Look at all the regulations on Wall Street, and Wall Street HAS a "Watch Dog" agency (SEC).
The high paid ARMY of Lobbyists & Lawyers working for the Health Insurance Industry who are NOW employed making absolutely sure that Mandates with NO Public Option is PASSED will immediately re-target the "regulations" that they have written themselves.
They won't even take a day off.
THIS is WHAT they do.
The won't declare Victory and leave.
They are like Terminators.
Your precious "regulations" won't stand a chance.
They are already thoroughly seeded with trapdoors, loopholes, and "ambiguous" wordings to keep them at bay for YEARS...probably forever.


Message from the Real World:
There will be NO "Fixing it Later."

[customerserviceguy]

11. You've got some very challengable assumptions there

First, there is no certainty that the Senate bill will pass. There is even less certainty that a as-yet-undefined "fix" bill will pass through reconciliation.

Second, other than a few minor things (like Mommy and Daddy being able to keep their layabout twentysomethings on the parent's insurance) there will be no direct benefit from HCR for a considerable length of time. It's going to be damned hard for Joe Average in Mushy Middle, Missouri to see how this is helping him, when his premiums will be going up to pay for future benefits for people who are not now being covered.

Third, you assume that defeat of the Senate bill (and whatever gets passed through reconciliation) is what the Rethugs want. I believe the opposite is true, they are hoping that some even more bizarre monstrosity labeling itself HCR passes and they will be able to talk about how it was "jammed through" against the wishes of the American people. They'd love it even more if the reconciliation bill fails, but the Senate bill is passed, and they can watch Democratic leaders in the House and in the Senate screaming at each other.

[flyarm]

12. why it is a plan all Repigs will love..it is their plan!! wake up! eom

[RBInMaine]

20. Hogwash! It still places many new rules on the ins. co.'s. Your cynical theory is just that.

[Name removed]

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[flyarm]

81. i don't have cynical theory's i have facts..like this!!

James Roosevelt, who was chair of the Rules and Bylaws Committee that decided to dock Michigan and Florida half of their
delegates and award 4 of the delegates Clinton won in Michigan to Obama, as well as all of the uncommitted delegates,
is the CEO of a health insurance company – Tufts Healthcare. Okay? Got that? The guy who made sure that Obama had the necessary
to delegates to win the nomination – even to the point of assigning delegates another candidate won to him arbitrarily –
is the CEO of a health insurance firm.
And what Roosevelt wants in a health insurance reform, is a reform that relies entirely upon private insurers.
He does not want a public option. He wants a plan like Massachusetts has
: http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2009/04/09/healthcare_lets_build_on_what_we_know/

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do some googling..you will find lots on James Roosevelt, Jr. and the DNC Ways and Means committee on the delegate decisions in Michigan and Florida..
http://search.aol.com/aol/search?q=James+Roosevelt%2C+who+was+chair+of+the+Rules+and+Bylaws+Committee+that+decided+to+dock+Michigan+and+Florida+half+of+their+delegates+and+award+4+of+the+delegates+Clinton+won+in+Michigan+to+Obama&page=2&nt=SG2&oreq=66ea2dd1351a45ce9c7de9133d8c39d8&s_it=keyword_rollover

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http://www.tuftshealthplan.com/visitors/visitors.php?sec=about_us&content=senior_management_group

Senior Management Group
Our mission is to set the standard for outstanding quality health care, service, and value. Our dedication to excellence makes us one of the leading health plans in the nation. Meet our senior management group.

James Roosevelt, Jr., President and Chief Executive Officer


es Roosevelt, Jr.
President and Chief Executive Officer
Mr. Roosevelt joined Tufts Health Plan in 1999 as senior vice president and general counsel and held that position until June 2005, when he became president and chief executive officer. As the general counsel, he presided over the legal department and the company's compliance, privacy and government relations functions.

Before joining Tufts Health Plan, Mr. Roosevelt was the associate commissioner for Retirement Policy for the Social Security Administration in Washington, D.C. He has also served as chief legal counsel for the Massachusetts Democratic Party and as co-chair of the Rules and By-laws Committee of the Democratic National Committee, for which he currently serves on the Change Commission. Mr. Roosevelt spent 10 years as partner at Choate, Hall and Stewart in Boston. He is past chairman of the board of trustees for the Massachusetts Hospital Association, past president of the American Health Lawyers Association and past chairman of the board of trustees for Mount Auburn Hospital. Currently, Mr. Roosevelt serves as chairman of the board of directors for Massachusetts Association of Health Plans, and as a member of the board of directors and co-chair of the policy committee at America’s Health Insurance Plans. He is a member of the Massachusetts Heath Care Quality and Cost Council and the board of directors for the Rhode Island Quality Institute. Mr. Roosevelt is also a board member at Emmanuel College and the Kenneth B. Schwartz Center, and is co-chair of the board of directors for the Tufts Health Care Institute. In November 2008, President-elect Barack Obama appointed Mr. Roosevelt to his transition team to co-chair a review of the Social Security Administration.

Mr. Roosevelt received his J.D. from Harvard Law School and his A.B. with honors in government from Harvard College. He has also completed the Advanced Management Program at Harvard Business School.

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http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03.aspx

The DNC weighs in on Michigan

Posted: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:40 AM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: Democrats

From NBC's Mark Murray

DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee co-chairs Alexis Herman and James Roosevelt issued the following memo to members of the committee:

"We have recently been asked whether the legislation as proposed by Michigan would fit within the framework of the National Party’s Delegate Selection Rules. Our review of this legislation indicates that it would, in fact, fit within the framework of the Rules if, it were, passed by the state legislature and used by the Michigan State Democratic Party as the basis of drafting a formal Delegate Selection Plan. If a formal Delegate Selection Plan is received we will convene a meeting of the RBC to consider such a Plan."

[Stinky The Clown]

25. Please don't call it healthcare

At its very best, it is healthcare consumer protection.

[RBInMaine]

27. Fine. Call it insurance reform, which is still goddamn better than nothing no matter what Moore and

Kucnich say. It is a START. And I stand with Krugman, Sanders, Sherrod Brown, Boxer, Grayson, and all the rest who WILL support it.

[Enthusiast]

31. But Krugman, Sanders, Sherrod Brown, Boxer and Grayson

all WANT a public option.

[RBInMaine]

34. And so do I. BUT, they aren't being as DUMB as Kucinich and Moore and still support this START.

[Enthusiast]

40. Like I said in my other post,

I won't be "a start", it will be a finish.

[dionysus]

48. everyone here wants a public option. but if the senate's too bought off to vote for one,

i'll take the regulations in the bill as a starting point.

[AlinPA]

29. That's inspirational, but the republicans won 3 big elections and will win more in November.

They control the media message and will have the money (post-SCOTUS ruling) to overwhelm with ads. Near where I live, Murtha's seat will easily go to a millionaire teabagger and this part of PA which has been heavy Democratic almost forever is now a teabagger stronghold. You can accuse me of being a naysayer, but I just disagree with your assessment of them being afraid and don't think that they are "petrified".

[RBInMaine]

33. If things align as I say, their gains will be minimal. Their leadership IS worried that "JUST SAY

NO" will backfire. Their leadership IS worried that the economy will get better, and that Dems will be credited for some major legislative successes. Make no mistake about that. November is a lllllllong way off. Obstruction is ALL they have.

[flyarm]

82. you are simply dreaming! I know of many Union people that are pissed as hell..and they

will sit home in NOV..they have not only been sold out by a few Union leaders..but by this White house as well.

I and my union family will be among them..Nov will make Mass election look like a party..Nov will be a blood bath if this goes through..count on that!

[bvar22]

41. Nonsense.

Champaign corks are popping at the RNC.
The Republicans got everything they wanted without being forced to take any political risks.

All they have to do for the next several years as Premiums continue to rise is sit back and say,"Yep. We opposed it.
The Democrats raised your Premiums."
True or not, THAT MESSAGE WILL RESONATE with Low Information America.

The Democrats response of "Yes. But its not as bad as if we had done nothing" is NOT going to be an easy sell.
The Republicans actually HAVE a "Pocketbook Issue" now.

The 45 Million Americans herded into The Exchange are NOT going to like being FORCED to BUY Insurance they can't afford to use.

Mandatory Purchase + NO Public Option + Tax increase on Working Class + massive transfer of Publ;ic Money to Private Pockets = Republican Health Care SCAM

SEE: RomneyCare

[cornermouse]

53. What bvar22 said. +1

Obama reconstituted and enabled them with all his talk about bipartisanship.

[Hissyspit]

57. +1

[WorseBeforeBetter]

60. We're not only providing the ammo, we're loading the gun.

Virginia first state in nation to pass anti-mandate health reform bill
http://ifawebnews.com/2010/03/11/virginia-first-state-in-nation-to-pass-anti-mandate-health-reform-bill/

While 34 other states have considered or partially passed legislation to ban any federal mandate to secure health insurance coverage, the Virginia General Assembly has passed a bill that is expected to get the signature of the state’s governor.

By an 80-17 vote, the Virginia House of Delegates passed HB 10, sponsored by Del. Robert G. Marshall (R-13th District), which states that no resident of the commonwealth shall be required to obtain or maintain individual insurance coverage. All 17 “nay” votes were cast by Democratic delegates.

Gov. Bob McDonnell, a Republican, has already said he would sign the bill into law, making Virginia the first state in the nation to challenge any mandates that could be handed down from Washington, D.C.

.....

Defiance of Feds, Idaho Senate Passes 'Health Freedom Act'
http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/editors_picks/2010/3/10/in_defiance_of_feds_idaho_senate.htm

BOISE -- The Idaho Senate has voted 24-10 in favor of the "Idaho Health Freedom Act," to ban the enforcement in Idaho of any federal requirement that all individuals and businesses purchase health insurance, and to require the state's attorney general to go to court to fight any such requirement. The vote sends the House-passed bill to Gov. Butch Otter's desk.

We needed REVOLUTION after 8 years of Bush/Cheney; instead, we get this clusterfuck...

[Raine]

65. EXACTLY ... on point! nt

[fooj]

71. Exactly.

SEE: James Roosevelt.

[flyarm]

83. here is James Roosevelt..

James Roosevelt, who was chair of the Rules and Bylaws Committee that decided to dock Michigan and Florida half of their
delegates and award 4 of the delegates Clinton won in Michigan to Obama, as well as all of the uncommitted delegates,
is the CEO of a health insurance company – Tufts Healthcare. Okay? Got that? The guy who made sure that Obama had the necessary
to delegates to win the nomination – even to the point of assigning delegates another candidate won to him arbitrarily –
is the CEO of a health insurance firm.
And what Roosevelt wants in a health insurance reform, is a reform that relies entirely upon private insurers.
He does not want a public option. He wants a plan like Massachusetts has
: http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2009/04/09/healthcare_lets_build_on_what_we_know/

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

do some googling..you will find lots on James Roosevelt, Jr. and the DNC Ways and Means committee on the delegate decisions in Michigan and Florida..
http://search.aol.com/aol/search?q=James+Roosevelt%2C+who+was+chair+of+the+Rules+and+Bylaws+Committee+that+decided+to+dock+Michigan+and+Florida+half+of+their+delegates+and+award+4+of+the+delegates+Clinton+won+in+Michigan+to+Obama&page=2&nt=SG2&oreq=66ea2dd1351a45ce9c7de9133d8c39d8&s_it=keyword_rollover

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

http://www.tuftshealthplan.com/visitors/visitors.php?sec=about_us&content=senior_management_group

Senior Management Group
Our mission is to set the standard for outstanding quality health care, service, and value. Our dedication to excellence makes us one of the leading health plans in the nation. Meet our senior management group.

James Roosevelt, Jr., President and Chief Executive Officer


es Roosevelt, Jr.
President and Chief Executive Officer
Mr. Roosevelt joined Tufts Health Plan in 1999 as senior vice president and general counsel and held that position until June 2005, when he became president and chief executive officer. As the general counsel, he presided over the legal department and the company's compliance, privacy and government relations functions.

Before joining Tufts Health Plan, Mr. Roosevelt was the associate commissioner for Retirement Policy for the Social Security Administration in Washington, D.C. He has also served as chief legal counsel for the Massachusetts Democratic Party and as co-chair of the Rules and By-laws Committee of the Democratic National Committee, for which he currently serves on the Change Commission. Mr. Roosevelt spent 10 years as partner at Choate, Hall and Stewart in Boston. He is past chairman of the board of trustees for the Massachusetts Hospital Association, past president of the American Health Lawyers Association and past chairman of the board of trustees for Mount Auburn Hospital. Currently, Mr. Roosevelt serves as chairman of the board of directors for Massachusetts Association of Health Plans, and as a member of the board of directors and co-chair of the policy committee at America’s Health Insurance Plans. He is a member of the Massachusetts Heath Care Quality and Cost Council and the board of directors for the Rhode Island Quality Institute. Mr. Roosevelt is also a board member at Emmanuel College and the Kenneth B. Schwartz Center, and is co-chair of the board of directors for the Tufts Health Care Institute. In November 2008, President-elect Barack Obama appointed Mr. Roosevelt to his transition team to co-chair a review of the Social Security Administration.

Mr. Roosevelt received his J.D. from Harvard Law School and his A.B. with honors in government from Harvard College. He has also completed the Advanced Management Program at Harvard Business School.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03.aspx

The DNC weighs in on Michigan

Posted: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:40 AM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: Democrats

From NBC's Mark Murray

DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee co-chairs Alexis Herman and James Roosevelt issued the following memo to members of the committee:

"We have recently been asked whether the legislation as proposed by Michigan would fit within the framework of the National Party’s Delegate Selection Rules. Our review of this legislation indicates that it would, in fact, fit within the framework of the Rules if, it were, passed by the state legislature and used by the Michigan State Democratic Party as the basis of drafting a formal Delegate Selection Plan. If a formal Delegate Selection Plan is received we will convene a meeting of the RBC to consider such a Plan."

[girl gone mad]

43. Wishful thinking, at best.

With a very solid majority opposed to mandates, we go into this already having to dig our way out of a pretty deep hole. People want action, not another bureaucratic nightmare. Judging by the real world example nearest to what's being proposed, Romneycare, Obama was very wise to make sure much of the reform doesn't kick in until 2013.

[craigmatic]

52. The dems have to pass it first. Even if they do the repubs will just say that they were for it all

along just like they try to do with medicare now. And people have such a short attention span now that most will probably forget.

[Cha]

55. KickR

[applegrove]

59. They don't want reform of healthcare obviously. They don't care if unreformed health

care bankrupts the country. They all want the country to sink in a bathtub. Instead the dems are really showing what Good Government does.

[jefferson_dem]

61. +1.

:kick:

[old mark]

63. You are right - it is the Democrats election to lose. If we can avoid being

as stupid as we have been for the last year, we will win again, and the GOP will be running in circles blaming each other and sutting still more people out of their "base"....may get down to triple digits.

mark

[Kablooie]

66. That's a large order. To avoid being as stupid as the last year. Don't know if they can manage it.

[Orsino]

67. Scared? No.

They are winning--ensuring that only a pale, expensive shadow of HCR could possibly pass, leaving Dems with little success to point to in the fall.

They are counting on our misery to sweep enough of them back into office.

[fooj]

68. You're kidding, right?

Obama promised single-payer. He promised Public Option. He promised competitive drug prices...

He has delivered NONE of it. Zip. He promised to "oversee" Wall Street. How's that working for everyone? Last I read, they received outrageous bonuses AGAIN. Hmmm...

Repubs aren't the only ones who should be petrified...

[Peacetrain]

73. The more scared they get, the more they attack.. yep

[IndianaGreen]

74. No one is afraid of Obama. Israel is not. GOP is not. Taliban is not.

Big Pharma is not. Big Health Insurance is not.

[Uncle Joe]

75. That defies logic.

1. The Republicans can't stop it because they don't have the votes.

2. If they were scared shit-less and they couldn't stop it any way while truly believing as you state this bill will "improve the system," the Republicans would be jumping on board to protect their political asses.

I believe they view this bill as a net win for them if it passes while they oppose it.

[butterfly77]

76. K&R!

[Raine]

77. Yeah, right

NOT ... that's just too funny. :spray: :rofl:

[FrenchieCat]

78. It's not just Republicans.

So folks are really bent out of shape on this, right here at DU.
Almost like some are starting to have temper trantrums on the account
of us getting closer.

Kind of like watching 5 year olds, IMO.

[Bobbie Jo]

79. Kick

:kick:

Now here's your truth.

[Dinger]

80. Oh yeah, they're scared

:sarcasm:

[prolesunited]

84. If they really think it will doom Dems

why aren't they just silently smirking in the corner?

If you saw your enemy was about to dive off a cliff, why would you be raising your arms and trying to warn him off?

[cowman]

85. In my

capacity as a firefighter/paramedic in las vegas, i can tell you people are FUCKING PISSED about this sham of a HCR. NV residents oppose it by 3 to 1 and that is the main reason Harry Reid is going to lose big time in Nov.

[LatteLibertine]

86. Agree completely

If HCR passes serious momentum will be on the side of President Obama and the Democrats. So getting other things on the agenda done will be much easier. In addition, I feel history will vindicate the decision to proceed with HCR. This could be the Republican party's Waterloo, not President Obama's.

I'm hoping they proceed to meaningful financial sector reform/regulation. Public outrage is high and that could help many Democrats worried about retaining their seats. It would be good for the country as a whole and their careers.