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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 11:43 PM
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Q: Did the House just release its reconciliation package? A: Nope.
Although if you thought they did, you weren't alone.

Did the House just release its reconciliation package?

Nope. The bill on the House Budget Committee's web site that's being called the reconciliation bill is not the reconciliation bill, or at least not what people mean when they talk about the reconciliation bill. It's the bill that will become the reconciliation bill. You see this occasionally in the House and Senate, where the oddities of the rules occasionally make it useful to put a new bill in the hollowed-out shell of an old bill.

TARP, for instance, was passed using Paul Wellstone and Pete Domenici's Mental Health Parity and Addiction Equity Act of 2008. The Senate health bill was written on the pages of the Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009. And the reconciliation bill will be written on this earlier bill. The original reconciliation instructions require Democrats to use a bill written before 10/15/09, and this bill fits, well, the bill. What'll happen next is that the legislation will head to the Rules Committee, who'll erase what's currently on the page and replace it with the real reconciliation package. It's a bit like how painters will reuse a canvas they've already painted on, though they're doing it to save money and the House and Senate do it because their rulebooks are confusing.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/03/did_the_house_just_release_its.html
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-14-10 11:56 PM
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1. is this circus ever going to end?
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 12:00 AM
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2. Also nope. The US Constitution mandates a Congress. NT
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 12:06 AM
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3. Congress has always sucked but this is spectacular suckage
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 12:09 AM
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5. Well, I suppose you could try armed revolt. NT
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 12:42 AM
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7. LOL!
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 08:47 AM
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9. and woe to those who ever believed HCR was dead....
Edited on Mon Mar-15-10 08:47 AM by Clio the Leo
.... it was only MOSTLY dead. ;)

Anyone who makes a Princess Bride reference automatically gets put on my list of "favorite DU'ers."
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 12:06 AM
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4. So when the canvas is finally finished what will it be? A landscape for the
wealthy insurance corporations, or a landscape of health care accessibility for all americans?
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 12:31 AM
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6. This bill should be considered an impending palimpsest.
A palimpsest is a manuscript page that was scraped off and used again by medieval priests. The text of this bill is going to be scraped away and the reconciliation bill put into the leftover shell.

Or, if you prefer a sausage-making metaphor, this sausage is going to be emptied and the skin used again. Same difference.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 01:02 AM
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8. Thanks for that
I wish Congress would do a better job keeping ahead of the news.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 09:00 AM
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10. Okay, why do they have to use a bill written before 10/15/09? It is because
of the reconciliation rules having to do with the current budget? I am so confused. I need some headache remedy. Congressional law is freakin arcane.
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 09:12 AM
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11. Fasten your seatbelts...
It's going to be a bumpy night!


-- This week it going to like the wild wild west. Thanks for the information, I thought that this was the case when this information became available last night.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 10:01 AM
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12. And that is what makes finding roll call votes in the Congressional web site, Thomas so hard to do
Looking up ones from long ago, it is often easiest to find the day it passed by googling - and then look for the vote with the result reported in the article.
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