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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 01:52 PM
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New MoveOn Ad Asks Dems: “Which Side Of History Will YOU Be On?”
http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/health-care/new-moveon-ad-asks-dems-which-side-of-history-will-you-be-on/

New MoveOn Ad Asks Dems: “Which Side Of History Will YOU Be On?”


The air cover from the left is now gearing up in earnest, and MoveOn is set to unleash a national ad pressing House Dems to support health reform by suggesting that in historical terms it would rank up there with the Civil Rights movement and the freeing of the slaves.

The ad, the group’s first national spot in the final stretch, was sent my way by a MoveOn official, and it features shots of Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King and Lyndon Johnson:

“Throughout history, America has been blessed with heroic leaders — individuals who helped us to navigate between right and wrong,” the spot says. “We need our leaders to fight for what’s right. Call Congress today and ask them: Which side of history will YOU be on?”

The spot, a six-figure buy on national cable, comes after MoveOn’s membership voted overwhelmingly last week to support the Senate bill with a reconciliation fix, suggesting there’s now a high degree of consensus on the left that this is the best way forward.

Also: While the ad makes a rather grandiose appeal to lawmakers’ historical consciences, it also sends a straightforward political message to them: If they take a tough vote and pass reform, they’ll have major air cover from big-spending groups as they head into the bruising fall campaign. If not, well…
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 01:55 PM
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1. K & R for a group trying to get things done
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 03:53 PM
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2. MoveOn is a White House propaganda outlet.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeremy-scahill/rahm-emanuels-think-tanke_b_185203.html

Mandates + No Public Option + $500Billion de-funding of Medicare + AntiLABOR Tax Increase + massive transfer of Public Money to Private Pockets = Republican Health Insurance SCAM (SEE: RomneyCare)

Lets ALL work for a "Democratic" Health Care Bill.
Fix it NOW.
Pass it LATER.
There will be NO "Fixing it Later".
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 04:45 PM
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3. LOL
If it's a republican health insurance scam to benefit health insurance companies, how come health insurance companies and every last republican are against it?

Double secret super psych?
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 07:42 PM
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13. Because the Republicans played it smart.
Over the last year, they gained concession after concession from the White House...
always moving toward what the Republicans wanted.

Mandates?...Republican

No re importation of Pharms?...Republican

Budget Neutral?...Republican

No Public Option?...Republican

Cadillac Tax?....Republican

No tax increase on the top 2%...Republican

Community Health Centers...Republican

Never, EVER did the "compromise" move back to The Left...NEVER.
If you piad attention, those are ALL the major issues the Republican Party wanted at the start of the debate, and YET The Democratic Party now OWNS the Bill.
The Republicans got everything wanted without being forced to take any Political Risks.

NOW, when there is almost NOTHING left in the Bill that is "Democratic", the Party Leadership decides its time to pass this Republican Bill (National RomneyCare) through reconciliation.

ALL the Republicans have to do now is sit back while Premiums continue to go UP and say,
"Yep. We opposed it."
"The Democrats raised your premiums, and rammed it down your throat."

This WILL play well in low information America.

The Democratic response of,
"Well YES. Your Premiums have gone up. but not as much as they would have if we hadn't passed this bill."
which is the TRUTH, but will be LAUGHED AT...openly ridiculed.
ALL America will know is that there is LESS money in their wallets.

Blood Bath 2010/2012.
The Republicans played it perfectly.
Got everything they wanted...No Political Risk.

Anybody who paid attention over the last year has GOT to be asking themselves "Who is the Democratic Party Leadership really working for?

As far as the Health Insurance Industry goes, they WILL be happy with their $Trillion Dollars, No Public Option, and 45 MILLION MANDATED customers....very happy indeed.
They will simply divide up the 45 Million herded into the Exchange Pens, and go about the shearing. With NO Public Option, there IS no competition.

The Health Insurance Industry has an ARMY of Lawyers and Lobbyists on the payroll who will immediately begin attacking the token "regulations" put in this bill to make it seem more palatable.
The regulations won't stand a chance.
If you have lived in America over the last 30 years, you already KNOW this.

The Health Insurance Industry is very, VERY happy with this bill.
Any public opposition at this point is pure theatrics:
"Oh NO. Don't throw us in that Briar Patch!"..Wink..wink
Hahahahahahaha."


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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 11:12 AM
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26. 5th dimensional chess, eh?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 05:05 PM
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4. You've jumped the shark. So explain this:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/12/moveon-mobilizes-against-obama-on-afghanistan-.html

MoveOn Mobilizes Against Obama on Afghanistan

December 01, 2009 2:00 PM
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 05:50 PM
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12. Oh babylon, that's so, so, 3 months ago!
Edited on Mon Mar-15-10 05:50 PM by HughMoran
:rofl:

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 05:17 PM
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6. It's been a while since I've seen so much BS packed into one post.
:rofl:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 05:23 PM
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8. Hahahahahaha...
The ultimate shark jump. Weeeee!
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 05:49 PM
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11. Most inane post ever
Please seek help.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 11:52 PM
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14. ROFL!!! You Seem To Forget MoveO's Attack Ads On Conservadems Opposing The PO
LOL! Tell that to the White House as MoveOn ran ads targetting conservative Democrats who opposed the public option.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 11:55 PM
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15. at this point you are useless to anyone except Republicans.
You must be a nader's raider, who just doesn't give a shit. :shrug:
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 06:45 PM
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28. YOU are a propoganda outlet
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 05:15 PM
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5. MoveOn is DLC...
:sarcasm: Sadly, I have to use the sarcasm thingy since when I said something similar the other day, a couple people thought I was serious.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 05:23 PM
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7. MoveOn burned my toast.
And spilled the coffee.
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Prism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 05:25 PM
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9. The written one
More specifically, the future history books that attempt to explain how politicians, Republican and Democrat, could behave in such a buffoonish, out-of-touch manner as America sank under massive economic collapse.

Nero only had a fiddle.

Washington is buying an entire orchestra.

The word "history" being used to describe this scam. Hilarious. Good gravy. The professional political class really doesn't have clue one, do they?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 05:48 PM
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10. Good question for my blue dog, Michael Arcuri.
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 11:59 PM
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16. I don't think the dems in congress listen to moveon. They care about their jobs not history
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 12:07 AM
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17. Perfect! Short, sweet and to the point.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 03:42 AM
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18. The side that lets IRS fuck citizens for not being customers of private corporations
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 03:43 AM
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19. Is negativity a Pre-existing condition,
because if so, you must not have any insurance!
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 04:02 AM
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20. I have shitty insurance. I have the option to drop it now if neccessary
Terminal perkiness is also a pre-existing condition, appaerntly. Involving wishing the IRS on anyone who can't afford to pay for both ongoing health care expenses and for shitty insurance.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 04:09 AM
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21. I think we will survive, and personally think we will all be the better off for it.
Time will tell.

Good luck and hope that you find positivity in your life at some point.
It does a body good. Works for me anyways.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 04:30 AM
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22. Well, research says that sourballs are more effective employees
They accurately estimate their own abilities (tending to agree with colleagues and supervisors), and propose deep rather than superficial solutions to problems. The terminally perky overvalue their performances and propose more rote and conventional solutions. See Barbara Ehrenreich for more.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 05:11 AM
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23. You are so smart!
I'm almost impressed.

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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 05:22 AM
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24. Terminal perkiness strikes again! Permanently cementing inequality in health care is wonderful!
All Dems of course share the value that people are worth only what their paychecks say they are worth, and that people deserve only the care that they can pay for.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 06:46 PM
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29. how very right wing of you
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 08:24 AM
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25. So now MoveOn stabs Progressives in the back. Sad.
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Change Happens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 05:55 PM
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27. They asked their members which way to go on HC? I voted Aye, so did
over 70% of the membership (I think)...Same happened when they supported Obama over Hillary, we voted on it!

I realize some on here want to vote with Palin and Kicinich, which is ok too.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 06:47 PM
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30. or "progressives" are stabbing us all in the back
one or the other
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