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wolfgangmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 02:33 PM
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Help - how do I respond to this Ron Paul email from my RW Brother in law.
Edited on Tue Mar-16-10 02:37 PM by wolfgangmo
He's basically a decent guy who might be coming around to a less extreme way of looking at things. He still watches Faux news and listens to AM radio but he has lost his job and struggling.

He send me this letter written by Ron Paul and asked for my comments. I was hoping for some help. Any suggestions will be most helpful. I don't want to miss any angles. http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul647.html

I think my BinL is a big advocate of States rights and therefore thinks that allowing the interstate sales of health insurance is a great thing. I can handle that question but what other RP lunacy am I missing in RPs letter that you, the DUers, would address.

What was interesting was my BinL's request for what I think would work if I don't agree with RP. It's an open door, and with your help I plan on driving a semi-truck through it.

thanks in advance.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 02:42 PM
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1. I don't know how much your bil knows about Ron Paul, but
I know he doesn't believe there should be any social programs, like Unemployment checks, SS, Disability, Medicare, Welfare Payments, SCHIP. Medicaid, or any other social help programs that exist. I agree with him on Foreign Policy, and maybe even elimination of the Fed. Reserve, but we are both o Social Security now, and although we have little bit saved for emergencies, we wouldn'pt last long without SS & Medicare. Dr. POaul is a REAL Libertarian. You survive or fail all by yourself.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 02:45 PM
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2. And while he's against government intervention,
he doesn't mind telling a woman what to do with her body.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 09:44 PM
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11. He opposes Roe Vs. Wade on grounds
That there's no mention of abortion in the Constitution. He is against any Constitutional Amendment federally banning it, and says it's a state issue. The anti-choicers don't really like him.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 02:50 PM
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3. Ron Paul is batshit crazy
- Kill social welfare, but let corporate welfare stay in place until "not needed"

- Cutting the "social safety net" while suddenly creating over 300,000 formerly employed military

- Ending the regulatory powers of the FDA

- End FBI and CIA investigative abilities unless they have evidence of guilt first (Lolwhut?) but jesus fucking christ, don't let the Mexicans in!

- Remove regulation and hurdles from firearm licensing. Why? Because we need to have armed pilots, because we all need to be scared; 9/11, 9/11, 9/11!

- Privatize government programs

- Privatize education while we're at it!

- Call the resultant unlubed assfucking the country receives "LIBERTY!" and "FREEDOM!" and label anyone who complains "EVIL" and "UNCONSTITUTIONAL"

Ron Paul is walking, squawking proof that the good die young.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 03:26 PM
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6. Actually it's those 300,000 people employed by the Mil overseas that I think
of every time somebody bitches about "Why do we still have mil. in Germany etc? Those wars have been over for decades!" I kow several people in that cataagory, one is my oldest son. He has a good job & makes a nice income. What would happen to unemployment if we just shut all those bases in Europe & brought everybody homw? Scary for sure!
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 02:51 PM
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4. It's call 1897
Basically he wants to undo about a 150 years of progress. If you love 1897, and you don't like transcontinental railroads, the interstate highway system, the FCC, the FAA, the FDA or the FDIC, you're gonna love Ron Paul. He's an anti-federalist. They were wrong 220 years ago, they're still wrong. About the only thing he "gets right" is that the president has too much power to deploy the military, and congress is far too willing to leave our troops stationed all over the world. We have to get away from thinking of or military as some sort of extension of our State Department.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 03:16 PM
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5. Ask your BIL if he wants the U.S. to stop being a world superpower.
Edited on Tue Mar-16-10 03:16 PM by Ikonoklast
If Paul had his way, the country as we know would cease to exist, as both an economic and military world power, almost immediately.

The power vacuum left by us would be more than willingly be filled by other nations.


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snake in the grass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 03:57 PM
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7. What good is it...
...the world's only "superpower" , when we are also the world's #1 rogue nation? Talk of "superpowers" is nothing more than dick measuring.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 04:11 PM
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8. I disagree.
And we are still an economic as well as a military superpower, like it or not.

Many nations on this planet would gladly exchange their current economic status for ours, in a heartbeat.

Even those that have prospered economically under our military umbrella, and criticize us for it.

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 04:32 PM
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9. Actually thinking Ron Paul or one like him could be President is very naive
Get rid of the Fed? Leave military posts in Germany?

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 05:32 PM
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10. +1
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Macoy Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 06:40 AM
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12. Bring the Troops (and thier paychecks) Home
Redeplying units home is a good thing. And I kinda thought President Obama was going to do that (at least in part)

No one is suggesting we lay off 300,000 military, just redeply the units home. What would be the effect on the American economy if 300,000 military were added to the local economy? They, and their families, will need housing, they will go out to eat, they will spend their paychecks in the local stores.

I can see a lot of people getting jobs to house, feed and support the needs of 300,000 service members and their families. Instead of paying Germans (and others) to do that, lets bring the troops home and hire Americans to support them.



Macoy
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