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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:40 AM
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What is the logic of the delay implementing many parts of HCR???
I just want to know the reason that is being used. It makes no sense unless it take a long time to set up stuff.
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denimgirly Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:43 AM
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1. Delay == Profit == Money well spent on Congressmen.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:43 AM
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2. So we don't change horses in the middle of a war.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:44 AM
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3. To give the insurance racketeers more time to gouge and screw.
Remember what the big gap before the credit card "reform" allowed the banks to do?
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:50 AM
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4. That is my worry!
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:52 AM
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5. To soften the budgetary impact
Edited on Wed Mar-17-10 09:52 AM by Teaser
By putting off the costliest parts of the bill, we don't wind up blowing up the budget over the next couple of years.

It was necessary to get the more skittish Dems on board.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:19 AM
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7. That is the only reason, in my opinion.
The cost must be made smaller and the only way to do it is to implement slowly.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 09:52 AM
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6. Because some changes can't logistically be expected to be doable immediately.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:22 AM
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8. 2 reasons
1) to balance the budget a bit. You charge the money before you start to spend it.

2) It gives time to "undo" parts you decide you can't afford, don't want, or think you might be able to improve before anyone actually is involved. Depending upon your level of cynicism, this is where the issue of "fixing" it in the future comes in. Some of us have lived through NAFTA and remember promises of future "fixes". Not to mention on this one it was "well, we'll fix it in the senate" then "we'll fix it in the conference committee" and now "we'll fix it in reconcilliation" and "we'll fix it in the future".
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:51 AM
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9. So the Repubs in 2012/2014 can repeal it n/t
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 10:52 AM
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10. CBO score
It's about the math.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:21 AM
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11. +1 - I can't believe it took this many posts to get the right answer. (nt)
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:24 AM
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12. To expand on this....
The savings that are forecasted from reform take a while to kick in. So in order to be deficit neutral over the first 10 years, some elements can't kick in until later. In the second decade when everything is in effect, the savings are supposed to be huge.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 11:34 AM
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13. just the ones that help people.
the ones that enrich the corporations happen right away.
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 12:21 PM
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14. zthat's nonsense, since mandates and subsidies are delayed until 2014
and those are pretty much the only things in the bill which benefit insurance companies.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 12:23 PM
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15. Cost and how it has to be calculated in order to keep
a majority of Americans from getting a heart attack,
if the cost came in any higher.

Unfortunately, too many Americans buy into the Media/GOP talking points
that the cost of helping others is what controls if we are to help others.
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quiller4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 12:42 PM
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16. Some of it is time needed for implementaiton and some is just
tto reduce cost and improve CBO score. Without a good CBO score it would be possible to get votes for passage.
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