CNN just said that only 7dems are needed to kill the bill. I don't trust dems to finish this

[LeftyAndProud60]

I know they will find a way to screw this up.


I can't even stomach that democrats might kill this bill.


All these new Yes votes and it seems we're still like 10 votes away. WTF? We were 10 votes away 20 yes votes ago

[FrenchieCat]

1. I know that at least one of those they named is now a "YES"......

He was the one I participated in working on him yesterday!

Here's the story on that: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x232138

Here's the result: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4313644

[louis-t]

2. CNN is a right-wing tool.

That is all.

[mucifer]

3. it's the job of cnn to keep you riveted to their channel all day. Saying it's a done

deal is bad for business. Pelosi, Reid and Obama wouldn't all be out there saying they have the votes if they didn't.

[DCBob]

4. If you watched Pelosi, Hoyer and Obama just awhile ago its clear this is a done deal.

They have the votes. Trust me.

[Phx_Dem]

17. Yep. Absolutely.

CNN is just trying to stir up shit, as usual.

[annabanana]

5. It seems that CNN doesn't have the resources that

some others have...

I don't trust their count one bit.

[vaberella]

15. I think the only sourcing CNN has is Politico. n/t

[quiller4]

6. We aren't 10 votes away. Of the 20 listed as undecided on the NY Times whip count

at least 12 and probably more have already given quiet "yes" pledges to leadership. Leadership will continue to whip votes so they have the margin to let the most vulnerable off the hook. Some of the names of the new pledges will be released today so that leadership shows they have the momentum.

I don't know which 12 have given pledges but my guess include:

Baird, Berry, Costello, Dahlkempy, Cuellar, Mollohan, Kaptur, Space, Kanjorski, Lipinski, Rahall and Carney.

Stupek's original 12 dwindled to 8 then 6. Now its down to 4.

[quiller4]

11. Minutes ago Cuellar issued a statement he is voting "Yes".

[quiller4]

16. Lost Space and picked up Carney. n/t

[fugop]

7. From Wonk Room:

# MT @ddayen: If Stupak only has 6 it's over. If he has more than 6, Dems have to lock up another former no vote less than a minute ago via TweetDeck

[LeftyAndProud60]

8. I don't know who is running against this fucker, but I might go volunteer for them in the summer. I

really hate this guy now. I can't believe he's a democrat. He needs to be kicked out of the party right now.

[fugop]

10. No kidding!

I can't always find the money to donate to candidates, but I have come to just LOATHE Stupak. I may dig deep to help out with that cause. It's just unreal how willing he is to hold an entire country hostage over health care for something that's already a non-issue!

[mascarax]

9. Oh, that CNN! Always looking on the bright side...

"This just in: the glass is half empty! We're out of time so we'll have to leave it there."

(I can't watch them any more...)

[karynnj]

12. That assumes that no "no" changes back to a yes

I would bet that Obama might have made the case to many in that incredible speech. There was one part, where they had to think - "that is how I sell this" and other better parts where they know they might regret forever not voting yes on this.

From Obama's, Pelosi's, and Hoyer's faces and comments, they have the votes.

[pnwmom]

13. That just means the vote will be close. Which we knew. n/t

[pnwmom]

14. CNN is toying with the Rethugs. Getting their hopes up, poor things. n/t

[denimgirly]

18. This is expected -- MSM wants drama for higher ratings...Take it with a grain.

[LiberalFighter]

19. What source does CNN use? China or India?

[Aramchek]

20. don't let your concern get the best of you

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[LeftyAndProud60]

22. LOL. I don't have 300 post in 2 days. I've been here since Jan. I get your point though. nt