Plouffe demolishes Rove

[ProSense]

Plouffe demolishes Rove

by Kitty

I know that this isn't a diary but just had to share. Plouffe shows how it's done

Plouffe: "The politics of this, by the way: If we pass this, we're in much better shape, politically, in the Democratic Party than we are today. Because we're going to go out there and not just talk about what WE'RE for, but what the Republicans are voting against: They are siding with the insurance companies over people who are denied coverage for preexisting conditions, siding with the insurance companies over saving seniors money. So this isn't just about us being a piñata here in the election. Elections are about choice. They are voting against an enormous tax cut for health care for 40 million middle-class families and 4 million small businesses -- that's what they're voting against. ... We are going to be much better positioned politically -- now, that's secondary to what's right for the country -- if we pass this. By the way, we had 15 million new voters vote in the 2008 election. OK, these are people are cynical that their vote really matters. If we don't pass health care, I think that sends a very depressing message. But it's going to be a very powerful message to them that their vote matters and they ought to stay involved in politics."

Rove: "This thing is paid for with Bernie-Madoff-style accounting. ... It's a gigantic disaster."

Plouffe: "Karl and the Republicans would be familiar with that."

Rove: "You will bankrupt the country if this bill passes. ... For God's sake, will you stop throwing around epitaphs and deal with the facts for once, David? ... We will fight the election on this,. and the Democrats will have significant losses in the House and Senate as a result of this bill."


Plouffe: "If Karl and a lot of Republicans want to call the election already, they ought to break out that 'Mission Accomplished' banner."

Rove: "That's cheesy, David. ... You should not denigrate the mission of the USS Abraham Lincoln."

:rofl:

[tallahasseedem]

1. "denigrate" yeah.

I hate when they think they're hovering above the fray.

[sneezepaddle]

12. hovering above the shit like hungry flies...more likely.

n/t

[Hutzpa]

32. Sounds like that turd has been reading DU

:puke:

[Jennicut]

2. Plouffe was being snarky. Karl can't handle what he tries to dish out.

[HughMoran]

3. Rove oughta know about 'cheesy'

[DCBob]

4. If anyone doubts this bill is good politics for the Dems..

They need to listen to the desperation in Rove's voice. He knows this bill is a major game changer.

[firedupdem]

5. "break out that Mission Accomplished banner"

Priceless!

[Spazito]

6. Oh, I just love this...

"If Karl and a lot of Republicans want to call the election already, they ought to break out that 'Mission Accomplished' banner."

Boom!

:rofl:

[90-percent]

7. Karl and cheesy

Karl brings cheesiness beyond the point of treason.

Karl knows cheesy.

-90% jimmy

[monmouth]

Wow, sweet David, I didn't know he had it in him. When you quietly

make Karl's head explode you have really arrived. Good on him!

[Cha]

25. Sounds delightful.

[butterfly77]

8. Rove brought his little chalkboard...

was he channeling Tim Russert..

[Cha]

26. Or glen beck.

[karmkay]

9. epitaphs?????

Has Rove been consumed by Bush's brain?

[99 Percent Sure]

14. WE know he meant "epithets; BB just doesn't know."

Bless his little turdblossom heart.

Plouffe wasn't playing.

"Break out the mission accomplished banner."

Eh hee.

[FatDave]

28. I'd love to see his epitaph.

"Here lies an evil, manipulative, greasy fat bastard"

[SoFlaJet]

10. I LOVE it

and I agree with everything Plouffe said. I saw John Boener this morning waving his finger as if to say " YOU people, you, the middle class don't DESERVE this HCR and we will do everything in our power to make sure you DON'T get it" with a mean and ugly and orange face. Karl Rove can suck my Italian dick-ahh on second thought...

[saltpoint]

11. Karl turns to cream of mush soup in the face of facts.

Rove is shrewd enough to know that he was Dubya's "Turd Blossom," a nickname the former president gave him.

Dubya needed Rove's amoral shrewdness and relied on it for many years; Rove needed Dubya's political celebrity to become someone important. Rove may have wanted to be important so desperately that he would do just about anything for Dubya's success because Dubya was his ride to the circus.

Without Rove Dubya does not become a largely-unquestioned U.S. President. Without Dubya, Rove remains the marginal shlub important to no one. So when the dirty work had to be done, the Bush White House knew Rove was at the ready to do it.

"Karl will take care of that for us, ain't that right, Karl?"

"Absolutely, Mr. President. You can count on me."

[never cry wolf]

13. Unfortunately, I thought the opposite

Even though rove was lying out his ass, as usual, the bastard would not let David get two sentences out before he started talking over him. I got very frustrated watching rove dominate the session. I wish the host would have taken more control and allowed each party equal time. I wish David would have called him on his BS.

[ProSense]

18. "the bastard would not let David get two sentences " Yeah, like during this exchange

Updated with more from the David Plouffe Show

We will see if they pass this bill," Karl Rove, who was "the Architect" behind George W. Bush’s two successful Presidential elections, said. "I hope they don’t. I pray they don’t. It will be an economic disaster for the country if they do." Rove said that the health care bill used "Bernie Madoff-style accounting" and was an "gigantic disaster."

"Karl and the Republicans would be familiar with that," Plouffe retorted. "Under their leadership, they took us from big budget surpluses to a $1.3 trillion deficit," he said.

Rove hit back: "Look, you have run up more deficit, before this bill, in the first 20 months and 11 days of your term in office then was done in the entire Bush years!"

"Don’t be lecturing us about what you’re doing with the profligate spending that started last year with the failed stimulus bill," Rove said, "and continued with your budget increases."

"You will bankrupt the country, if this bill passes!" Rove insisted.

Plouffe responded with another jab: "Karl and the Republicans have zero credibility – about as much credibility as the country of Greece does to talk about fiscal responsibility."

Rove, brandishing a white board with health care cost figures, interrupted: "For God’s sake, will you stop throwing around epithets and deal with the facts, for once David!"

Plouffe, rolling his eyes, responded: "Let’s put the fanciful chart away..."

Before he could finish, Rove interrupted: "It is not a fanciful chart, deal with the chart!"

Rove sounds like Plouffe was getting under his skin.

"Let’s put the fanciful chart away..."

:rofl:

[tularetom]

15. Did rove really say "epitaphs"?

I'm not the grammar police but I think he meant "epithets".

Which is of course exactly what HE is "throwing around".

I'd love to hear the desperation in his voice, but that would require me to turn on the TV and actually look at his pudgy little double chinned face.

[MissWaverly]

22. live debate is not his forte, he's better with sound bytes

he came across as an hysterical ranter, David Plouffe had total control all the time, after one particular tirade where he kept repeating himself, they just took the camera off him.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

16. When and where did this take place?

I'd love to see some video

[high density]

17. ABC's This Week

Highlights: http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/plouffe-rove-battle-health-care-10161852&tab=9482930§ion=1206874&playlist=6505465&page=1

Part 1: http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/rove-plouffe-part-10161442&tab=9482930§ion=1206874&playlist=6505465&page=1
Part 2: http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/rove-plouffe-part-10161488&tab=9482930§ion=1206874&playlist=6505465&page=1

[goclark]

19. The straws will not be anywhere after today

These little evil people will have taken all of the straws they have been reaching for ~ let's roll!

[bullwinkle428]

20. Rove looked like his head was going to explode (ala Scanners),

when Plouffe brought up the "Mission Accomplished" banner!

[Phx_Dem]

21. Rove was apoplectic this morning, which can mean only one thing.

He knows this bill will boost Democrats. Otherwise, he would not be freaking out about it.

:*

[Cha]

27. He also knows the Bill will help Americans

and he's freaking out about it.

[BeyondGeography]

23. He helped take us to Iraq and now he worries about bankrupting the country by helping people

A giant fuck you to all that.

[Cha]

24. Thank you, I 'm going to

read this at my leisure.

[Blue Owl]

29. go to hell Karl

now.

[zulchzulu]

30. Kove was rude as hell and simply a lying machine on steroids

I watched Kove with his magic markered errand board and he simply was rude as hell and was trying to filibuster the interview and kept interrupting as much as he could. The fill-in anchor obviously should have told Karl to shut his cakehole or he'd cut his microphone off.

[Blue Owl]

31. Hey Turdburglar, do us a favor and leave the USA

Go fuck up some other country, you piece of shit.

[Hutzpa]

33. Listen to that Turdblossom

fucking can't stand him, I just wished David would have fucked with him some more
just to throw him off his talking points.

[live love laugh]

34. Translation/summary from Plouffe: Fuck you Karl Rove.

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