So if Stupak can get an Executive Order then why can't the Public Option?!?!

[denimgirly]

Am i missing something...why is the Public Option always, ALWAYS something dirty? Unless the details of an Executive Order forbid it i dont understand why the Public Option couldnt be one as well.

Sorry if this has been discussed before...I am just wondering.

[DJ13]

1. Stop it

Logic isnt supposed to apply when it might help the average person.
:thumbsup:

[SemiCharmedQuark]

6. "Logic"?

Congress controls all spending. A PO would require spending.

[DJ13]

9. The logic comes from the very desperate need for a PO in this mess

That was the real point of the OP if Im not mistaken.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

11. The point of OP was a question: Why can't we put in a PO through executive order.

A question that is pretty easily addressed.

[DJ13]

13. The point was a need for a PO

The OP was just using the executive order as a means to getting it.

Of course, we both know that even if Obama could wave a wand and create a PO by executive order he wouldnt do it since he already cut back room deals that prevents him from supporting its passage.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

14. Right. The point of the OP isn't what the OP actually says, but what you believe it says.

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[SemiCharmedQuark]

16. There is no logic in asserting that you can create a PO out of an executive order.

I called you on that. You then tried to change what the OP was about.

[DJ13]

17. You didnt "call" me out on anything

Im not the OP.

[Sienna86]

2. Beacuse The Family owns him

...

[qazplm]

3. you can't initiate spending

through an executive order.

[karynnj]

4. The President can not create a major new program - which a PO would be -

by an executive order. What Stupak may be given actually does very little.

[phleshdef]

5. US Govt 101? Congress controls the initiation of spending.

[Thrill]

7. Go look up what an Executive Order is

And you will answer your own question

[Rage Inc.]

8. Water under Bridge

As I just said to the other PO pusher (of which I am one): Personally, I'm fucking exhausted! Let's just do this thing today, take a nap, and return to the battle refreshed!

[Phx_Dem]

10. Executive orders are not permanent so I don't see how that

work for a public option.

Okay everyone, you've got a public option, but only for a little while.

[liberalpragmatist]

12. Um, a president can't create a government program by fiat

An executive order is just the president directing the implementation of what's permitted under existing law.