Is there a real difference between GD:P and GD? Anyone?

[jsmirman]

Things are really busy at law school, and I just can't participate as frequently as I used to on these boards, and find myself a little more confused on my return than I like to be.

I'm following all of this today, and I fear that I need to rely on the better nature of those around these parts for help with a few questions.

I've tried to deduce the difference between the two forums, and for the life of me, I can't see it.

Any help would, again, be most appreciated.

[Pirate Smile]

1. If you don't like Obama, hang out in GD. If you think he is OK, hang out in GD: P.

That is the main difference that I've noticed.

[Clio the Leo]

3. yep. NT

[HughMoran]

6. I'd say that's generally true

[Ozymanithrax]

8. And only now they tell me the rules.

[vaberella]

13. Hah! n/t

[GreenPartyVoter]

2. Obama fights are supposed to stay in GD:P. GD is "whatever" politically speaking, and where

I go to get some news and yet still manage to avoid all the Obama rancor.

Well, theoretically that's what I think it was supposed to be.

[Cleita]

4. Not really, but the moderate DLC types seem to hang out at GD:P more. n/t

[cbayer]

5. Not a lot of difference at this time. The only real difference is that gd:p is reserved

to issues related to the President, but there is a lot of flexibility there.

:hi:

[jsmirman]

9. Thank you all for the answers

it seemed as though the distinction had broken down.

I suppose if there's anything left, it's the idea that any topic here must have a tangential connection, at least, to President Obama?

That's certainly a loose rule of law, as it's hard to identify too much that doesn't have a connection to Obama and the administration - at least, it seems that way.

The answers are all interesting because the biggest difference I *could* identify seemed to be that of membership! :rofl:

Guess I wasn't far off!

But I suppose GD would be without the minimal restriction referenced above.

Things definitely seemed clearer pre-election...

Thanks again to all who responded to my question.

[Kaleva]

7. There is a "P" in one forum and not the other.

[jsmirman]

10. HA!

:rofl:

[FrenchieCat]

11. Both forums seek mostly the same things....generally speaking

But GD is where we post to discuss how fucked up the world is,
and how we would prefer the world to be....

and GDP is where we discuss how we can realistically change
that fucked up world to be better.

[Ikonoklast]

12. In GD, you get stomped on for supporting President Obama,

In GDP, you get stomped on for supporting President Obama.

Huge difference right there.

[Kaleva]

15. LOL!

[Oregone]

14. More talking points here, more open discussion there

By open, I mean not guided by talking points and stonewalling.

[HughMoran]

20. arrogant

I would expect nothing less, of course :)

[Oregone]

23. Thats just what I see

I see lots of pieces supporting the leadership's political narrative. In GD, I see a lot of topics started without a quote, link, or talking point trying to establish a "framing" for the discussion to follow.

You are free to find it as arrogant if you wish. Everyone has their own perception. Im not saying one is better than the other, as they do operate somewhat differently and may be better at accomplishing different things. GDP operates like a whipping forums at time, if you excuse the loose terminology.

Sorry if you see that as an arrogant insult to your sacred grounds.

[rucky]

16. I usually come to GD:P to follow breaking stuff like this.

and GD for the food fights on slow news days.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

17. Yes, a large self-selection difference

Post identical polls in GD and GDP and you will usually see very different results.

GDP is more supportive of the president, administration and party in general.

(It's natural that people tend to hang out more where their own views are more common so even if the forums were just labeled GD1 and GD2 one would expect a difference to evolve.)

[jsmirman]

21. I like the GD1 and GD2 reasoning

sounds very perspicacious.

[apocalypsehow]

18. As a rule, the "leftier-than-thou" and pseudo-Che wannabes vent their rage against liberals,

progressives and Democrats in general more in GD; in GD: P there tends to be more support for reasonable policies in the mainstream of the Democratic Party, that mainstream being progressive and/or liberal (however one wishes to define themselves).

Just my view.

[Oregone]

19. Well now, thats an objective breakdown

Which doesn't suggest a biased following in BOTH forums

[HughMoran]

22. et tu?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=236559&mesg_id=236681

Holy crap, you're a comedian!

[Oregone]

24. Ah yes, I was labeling and name-calling?

WTF is your personal issue with me? Am I your internet e-Nemesis attacking your e-boyfriend Obama?

STEP 1) Reach low

STEP 2) Remove stick from your ass

STEP 3) Become literate, and this will make better sense

You need to learn to cope with it bud

[HughMoran]

25. Lovely!

& my friend from Canada was so nice too. I though Canadians were "nice"? :D

[Oregone]

26. One trick pony

For those with trouble reading, I was born and raised in the states.

But if you wish to continually attack me personally as some ignorant, know-nothing foreigner that you wanna make squeal like a pig, go ahead. You will surely look brighter for it too.

[HughMoran]

28. Ah, that explains it

American at heart!

:toast:

[Oregone]

29. Thats why its easy for me to be such a dick at times

But one that can admit it

[HughMoran]

30. My grandfathers name was Dick

See, I can admit it too!

:shrug:

[depakid]

27. More like GD-P tends to be a propaganda forum, spouting and supporting the party line

on any given issue, even when the party line was dramatically different the month or week before.

The overriding concern for the majority here is support for the politician (most often the president) as opposed to the policies (or the attitudes beliefs and values that lie behind them).

That's far less the case in GD- where discussions are wide open to multiple points of view on the issues.