TheBigotBasher
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:48 PM
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America is now a civilised nation |
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Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 09:49 PM by TheBigotBasher
it is no longer among the very few Nations that deny the poor health care.
Shame on the 34 Democratic Nay votes but welcome to the free World America.
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:49 PM
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TheBigotBasher
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:51 PM
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4. Even if the other two fail |
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the Senate bill is law once signed by the President. comprehensive health care is pretty much law.
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:49 PM
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2. This is a beautiful day |
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:50 PM
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3. Well, no. But we're closer. But Canada, France and the UK are still laughing at us. nt |
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:57 PM
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I don't feel happy about this bill.
The insurance companies are happy, the shareholders are happy, and wall street is happy.
When we get real national healthcare I will be happy.
All we got is crap care.
People are still going to die and be sick from lack of health care.
Having insurance doesn't mean having health care.
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TheBigotBasher
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Sun Mar-21-10 10:00 PM
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11. WTF is this abortion on demand crap? |
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Abortion is a serious issue not a cosmetic issue. The Republicans are sick sick creatures.
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Sun Mar-21-10 10:08 PM
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14. I never understood that term either, no woman just has an abortion for fun. |
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Republicans are beyound sick.
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Sun Mar-21-10 10:06 PM
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13. Ins. Companies role is to needlessly siphon money from the Govt. and people. nt |
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Mon Mar-22-10 03:57 AM
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25. I doubt that, it took decades to get our own systems even to |
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Edited on Mon Mar-22-10 04:01 AM by polly7
where they're at now. Tommy Douglas was hated, threatened, called every nasty name in the book - a whole province of doctors went on strike in protest. Ours took a long time, and is still evolving.
I think it's great, it will get better ........ and Congrats. I'm so happy millions more will be taken care of.
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Mon Mar-22-10 06:59 AM
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27. Yes, it's better. It was a tougher sell in Canada than Britain, where even Churchill supported it. |
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Mon Mar-22-10 04:04 AM
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26. Exactly. This is progress, but they are still laughing just a little more softly now. |
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We still need financial regulation, restoration of the safety net, progressive taxation, to strengthen unions (EFCA), and, yes, more health care reform, but we took a step in the right direction.
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Mon Mar-22-10 06:59 AM
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28. I'm thinking about healthcare specifically. Canada is about to impose another regressive sales tax. |
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:54 PM
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domesticated? This is a victory, but I don't think it's for us.
Please prove me wrong.
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:55 PM
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6. i'd rein in on that a bit... |
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we are still a country that largely doesn't believe in evolution. We may be a step closer, though.
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:55 PM
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7. Upt to 133% of poverty, that is true n/t |
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:56 PM
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8. no but it's a start. they really open up medicaid with this bill I wonder if people will still have |
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to go broke to get on it. If not this is good work.
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Mon Mar-22-10 03:55 AM
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24. Less broke than before. Ironic that one of the only useful features of the bill |
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--had absolutely NO need of mandates or any of that other crap. Medicaid could have been expanded merely by revising existing legislation.
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Sun Mar-21-10 09:57 PM
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We still have a lot more steps.
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Sun Mar-21-10 10:05 PM
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This could have been better but the house and Senate need better Democratic members.
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Sun Mar-21-10 10:17 PM
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15. This is no longer the case |
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Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 10:18 PM by TheBigotBasher
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Sun Mar-21-10 10:43 PM
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Edited on Sun Mar-21-10 10:43 PM by Sebastian Doyle
From your link:
Blue - Single-payer universal health care Green - Public universal health care through other means Gray - No universal health care or no data
The US remains in the "gray area" of this map, because mandatory corporate care does not fit the other two definitions.
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Mon Mar-22-10 05:04 PM
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Since the current reform is copied in most details from the Dutch system, and the Netherlands is in green, the US now will be green also. And yes, contrary to a lie often seen on DU, Dutch mandated insurance is sold by both for-profit and not-for-profit companies.
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Sun Mar-21-10 10:19 PM
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16. Not sure I'd go quite that far but we are a bit more civilized than earlier. |
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Sun Mar-21-10 10:57 PM
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18. "Civilized" maybe not, but better. Great job Reps and Mr. President... |
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I must send the WH an email of congratulation and support
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Sun Mar-21-10 10:59 PM
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19. Not quite there yet, but at least we're headed that direction. |
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Sun Mar-21-10 11:52 PM
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20. Well, not quite. True medical justice will only come with Single Payer. |
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Mon Mar-22-10 02:07 AM
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21. Sans the GOP and the Tea Party, yes |
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Edited on Mon Mar-22-10 02:07 AM by LatteLibertine
Eventually, we will have single payer. Bet on it.
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Mon Mar-22-10 02:43 AM
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As long as we don't have single payer, this country will never be the moral equal of those countries that do. It is a DISGRACE that we treat our most vulnerable citizens this way, and it is our great shame as a nation to have to own the atrocities that have been visited upon us by insurance companies.
I am one of the millions currently without health insurance, and I still oppose this corporate SHAM masquerading as a "progressive victory." This bill is an embarrassment that rewards the parasitic insurers who caused these problems in the first place. Call me a DINO, accuse me of wanting a pony or a unicorn or whatever, but it doesn't make me any less right.
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Mon Mar-22-10 03:53 AM
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23. It is the only nation to force people to buy crap coverage that won't pay for care |
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And it's bullshit that we deny the poor care. It's only those not poor enough for Medicaid that get denied care.
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Mon Mar-22-10 05:20 PM
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30. Now is the time to start a not-for-profit insurance company |
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Instant customer base is right around the corner.
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Mon Mar-22-10 05:22 PM
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31. Yes the very poor will be covered. |
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Not quite sure this health "insurance" bill rates us even close to the other 1st world countries in regards to healthcare. This bill makes health "insurance" almost universal, it does not however make health "care" universal.
Yes it will be better in some ways then what we had, but it is not ANYTHING like what Europe, Canada, etc have.
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