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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 08:57 AM
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"Results Are All That Matter"
Results Are All That Matter
Josh Marshall | March 22, 2010, 12:42AM

It's been an exceptionally long year for the president, his party, the Democratic caucuses in the Congress and everyone who was involved in whatever fashion in the 2008 election. A year ago, the Health Care debate got started in a climate in which there was little doubt that the president would pass his plan, and soon. That reality was most clearly expressed in the stance adopted by the key industry stakeholders who wanted to be in the discussion and on board rather than in opposition to it. They figured that passage was a done deal and wanted to affect the final bill in their favor as much as possible rather than waste time opposing it.

Then the debate dragged on over many months. The pace slowed in the early summer. Then there was the town hall Crazy (tm) of August. And from there we know the rest -- the ugliness, close calls, the shuddering collapse of morale after January 19th. But the truth is, nothing matters but the final result. No one remembers the politicking in advance of Medicare or Social Security or really anything else. There's either a reform law or there's not. That's why, even though it's still a momentous event in political circles, the 1994 run at Health Care Reform might as well never have happened.

Even over the last two days you've seen a shifting of perspective as all the drama and angst of recent months recedes before the reality of final passage. There's no denying this is certainly the biggest and by almost any definition the first major social legislation in the United States in almost five decades. (Congress passed Medicare in 1965.)

Today, when David Frum wrote that this was turning out to be the GOP's Waterloo, he had two interlocking points -- one focused on policy, another political.

The US has had several runs with major pieces of social legislation. And the record is that they don't get repealed. They're expanded and become embedded in the national political economy. That was what was at the heart of Bill Kristol's famous (or infamous) memo on reform from 1994. Once Health Care reform is passed; the middle class will like it. And there will be no repealing or doing away with it. And its success would create a new generation of Democrats. That was his fear.

To that end, Frum's policy point was, who cares if the Republicans take back Congress? Majorities come and go. But reform is permanent. For conservatives it's a catastrophic development and if they'd actually been part of the dialog they probably could have gotten a bill much more to their liking. The second point is political, though he's less clear in this case. Republicans, he says, are probably overestimating their chances this fall in any case.

I'm far from wanting to hazard a prediction. But I've thought for a while that this is right. Seven months is always a long time in politics. But this seven months particularly could be very long indeed.

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http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/03/results_are_all_that_matter.php#more?ref=fpblg


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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 08:59 AM
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1. Results are critical. You can't feed a family on ideals or ideas
you can't cure an illness with an ideology or protect civil rights with good intentions.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-22-10 09:04 AM
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2. I bet the vast majority of Americans won't notice a difference.
Premiums will still go up. And the goal was to keep what people had the same.

Let's face it 30 million Americans is 10% of the population. That isn't anywhere near a majority.

I certainly don't feel like I've been guaranteed access to health care. I feel like I'll never get to retire because I can't live without the employer contribution to my mandated health insurance premiums
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