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Wed Mar-24-10 08:00 PM
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Mark these words, if an elected official get hurt or killed, the GOP will not survive. |
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I am not talking about Bad results in the midterms. I am talking about the metaphysical certainty that the internal and external backlash and whiplash will be so severe that they will destroy each other as the money dries up.
And you know what. Ultimately that is not a good thing because in the absence of institutional structure on the right your are going to have anarchy and no one will be ablt to put it back together again for a generation and I would suspect that while we wold have huge majorities... the Blue Dogs would bold for their own gig.
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Wed Mar-24-10 08:04 PM
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1. Exactly. They are beasts and this will affect them. |
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I'm so scared for our officials it kills me.
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Wed Mar-24-10 11:13 PM
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16. I love that picture! n/t |
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Thu Mar-25-10 12:33 PM
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34. I've been queasy about this for the past couple of days, since the attacks began. |
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I am old enough to remember JFK, MLK, RFK in sickening progression. And abortion docs shot and killed, OK City and that dead baby being carried by a firefighter..
I so want it all to STOP!
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Wed Mar-24-10 08:04 PM
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2. Apparently the GOP aren't of the same opinion |
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or they would stop encouraging the terrorists.
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Thu Mar-25-10 01:22 AM
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25. They seem to assume that if a Democrat gets killed, Democrats will do what the GOP wants. |
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And that fits the definition of terrorism 100%.
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Wed Mar-24-10 08:12 PM
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3. If so much as an innocent bystander gets hurt or killed, the GOP will |
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Edited on Wed Mar-24-10 08:13 PM by kestrel91316
not survive.
SO MOTE IT BE.
Wow. I can't believe I just did that. Well, it's done.
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Wed Mar-24-10 11:23 PM
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17. If the GOP doesn't survive, it's their own bad karma to blame |
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You're just seconding the motion.
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Wed Mar-24-10 08:13 PM
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4. They've already done the damage...... |
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and I don't think that they will survive.
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Wed Mar-24-10 08:15 PM
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If someone ends up getting hurt, most of the people aren't going to stand for it.
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Wed Mar-24-10 11:35 PM
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19. No, most of the people won't stand for it; they'll remain seated |
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I think you're either overestimating the average American's propensity towards legitimate outrage, or you'r underestimating the media's ability to cover the asses of those who the corporate owners support.
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Wed Mar-24-10 08:23 PM
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6. I wish I could believe this, but I don't. They would face no real penalty at all. They would just |
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blame it on the Democrats, the he said/she said media would accept it without comment, and corporations looking for repugs to do their bidding would be happy to fill their campaign coffers.
Don't believe me? Then ask yourself when was the last time you heard anything about the IRS-hater who killed the IRS employee when he flew into the federal building.
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Thu Mar-25-10 07:29 AM
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30. I see that building every day on the way to work. |
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Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 07:29 AM by martymar64
It reminds me every day of the violence the other side is capable of. They think that we won't react violently and fight back against them, but if they push us too far, they may be in for a very unpleasant surprise.
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Wed Mar-24-10 08:25 PM
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there should be lawsuits against every two bit RW talk show host from Provincetown, MA to Portland, OR, as well as Fox News for inciting this shit. I'm sick of it!
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Wed Mar-24-10 08:39 PM
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Th worst thing we could possibly due it try an villianize the enemy that way. It would easily become a rallying cry.
Best thin we can do is keep Obama-cool and let the media run with it.
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Wed Mar-24-10 08:38 PM
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8. Actually, I think it would be VERY good for progressives |
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If the Republicans went out and Bluedogs split to form a new party.
That would leave us with a much stronger, more unified progressive democratic block.
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Thu Mar-25-10 12:26 AM
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24. And an overall shift to the left. |
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Since the blue dogs are still not as bad as republicans. I see this as likely to happen even without violence.
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Thu Mar-25-10 04:15 AM
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27. It would also retain the two-party system. |
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Edited on Thu Mar-25-10 04:15 AM by mwb970
There would be two parties: liberal Democrats and conservative Democrats. The far-right-wing opposition would consist of criminals, vandals, militias, and domestic terrorists, led by radio and television hosts.
I wonder whether we should treat their crimes in a "law enforcement" manner or just send them all to Gitmo?
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Wed Mar-24-10 08:39 PM
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9. They would never accept responsibility for anything like that. |
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If such a thing happened, the GOP would distance themselves from it. In fact, they would probably blame it on the Democrats' "heavy-handed tactics." Of course, the media would do whatever is necessary to make sure the GOP survives.
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Wed Mar-24-10 09:24 PM
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11. I wish I thought that. But they've lied us into horrible wars, condoned torture, outted CIA agents, |
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Edited on Wed Mar-24-10 09:33 PM by chill_wind
stolen elections, gave us Blackwater, the nightmares of their handling of Katrina-- could go on forever- and there's been no accountability. All of it POLICY and no where could they blame that on some fringe "bad apple", which is what they would do-- with lots of help from the media--in some latter instance here.
I fear they will survive. And keep getting book deals and radio shows and CEO chairs and lobbyist gigs and reappointments into sympathetic administrations down the road long into their old age. After Watergate, I never pictured G. Gordon Liddy eventually getting a radio show with an American audience and after Raygun, I never thought I'd see a whole govt later run by a whole pack of Iran contra felons in my same lifetime, but...
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Wed Mar-24-10 09:38 PM
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12. What I am saying is that the Party itself would not survive |
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That doesn't mean the wingnuts, NeoCons and fundies wold go away but you would see the emergence of a loosely defined libertarian party but they would probably have to avoid the Rhetoric of the Tea Partier. The fundies distrust the libertarians. And the Libbers think the fundies are nut cases. They would go separate ways and potentially each institutionalize.
Bottom line you would see two or maybe three distince Conservative movements and there would be no way to harmonize them
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Thu Mar-25-10 05:58 AM
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As others noted, we are were we are now ...
And, they are the victim and the media is propogating that meme ...
If it happens, it won't change one bit, not one bit ...
Joe Scarborough will be on the next morning and do the victim thing, talking about how Reagen got shot and how unfair it is how the liberal media plays up all the things that negatively portray the poor GOOD americans ... David Gregory will grill Joe Biden, "Mr vice president, if republicans are killing democrats, has the president not in fact broken his promise to bring bipartisanship to DC?" Faux News will spend the next day running stories on gay marriage, while saying tht BO drove everyone off a cliff with his extremist and totalitarian policies and style ...
AND, Rs would gain seats in the fall regardless, with Rs going out to vote for Rs in r leaning districts the Ds currently hold ...
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Thu Mar-25-10 12:26 AM
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23. sadly, I agree with you. Crime is something the other guys do, with this lot - with them, it's for |
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"country" and their belief that God wants them to harm others. They're loony as you can get with their belief they're without reproach, or that a dead liberal is just an act of unstable type, but a death they really aren't bothered with if it were to happen. They are sick, and the movement propelling this liberal hatred they have of us, must be stopped. The more the Limpballs of the US continue ramping up the anti-lib hatred, the more crap will continue.
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Wed Mar-24-10 09:56 PM
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13. Think about O'Reilly and his comments about "Tiller the baby killer". |
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O-Reilly is still there, spewing his lies.
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Wed Mar-24-10 10:49 PM
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15. If we could do that without actually having a elected official killed, then great |
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The Dems are two parties right now, and the conservadems could just take over for Repubs.
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Wed Mar-24-10 11:25 PM
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They can turn anything into " God's punishment "
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Wed Mar-24-10 11:42 PM
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20. "the Blue Dogs would bold for their own gig" |
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The last statement in the OP: "the Blue Dogs would bold for their own gig." What does that mean? Is there an idiomatic expression in there that I don't know? Or a missing word or two? Or something spelled wrong and confusing me? I just can't find any way to make sense of that.
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Thu Mar-25-10 11:03 AM
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31. Thanks. Now it makes sense. nt |
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Thu Mar-25-10 12:22 AM
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22. If the GOP falls apart and the Blue Dogs become the new right-wing party, that's not necessarily bad |
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Hmmm. Aside from someone being murdered, which is always bad, if the backlash were to mean the GOP fell apart and went the way of the Whigs, then the Blue Dogs split off and formed their own new party, where does that leave us?
A remaining Democratic party full of progressives, and a right-wing party that's only as right-wing as the current Blue Dog Democrats. Overton window shifts way to the left, seems to me that the country goes in a far better direction.
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Thu Mar-25-10 02:06 AM
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26. Or - NOTHING happens to them and we begin the steady march to our own version of Nazi Germany... |
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I pray that you are right, but I fear what I just said.
Leave nothing to chance and assume nothing with these EVIL fucks!!!
God forbid some Democrat is harmed.
These fucks and the Meme of the day is that DEOCRATS ARE TO BLAME and HAVE CAUSED ALL THIS OR BROUGHT I ON THEMSELVES!!!
THAT is what FUX and CNN is spewing RIGHT NOW!!!
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Thu Mar-25-10 06:15 AM
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lets hope that scenario doesnt play out tho.
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Thu Mar-25-10 11:19 AM
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32. We have a right wing media that will cover for them |
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Thu Mar-25-10 11:52 AM
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33. Why fight the Taliban 'there'... |
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when we have them 'here'?.
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