A Quote that will simply give you the Chills!

[FrenchieCat]

for the obviousness of it:

"The idea that the minority party represents the "will of the people"
(not some of the people, but "the people") is the seedling of a totalitarian mindset.
In this mindset -- democracy doesn't matter, ideas are not to be discussed,
and opposing views are not to respected. What matters is that they alone have truth,
they alone are metaphysically connected to the "mind of the people" can interpret their will,
and because they have truth and speak for the people,
others represent a threat and must be silenced and stopped."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-zogby/frightening-gop-behavior_b_508969.html

And the fact that the media didn't call the Republicans out on this a long time ago,
but instead pushed that exact talking point makes my point.....
We need to be united, because the forces that we are fighting are not only powerful,
but if we let things slip away from us this time, there might not be another...
especially not after the Citizens United decision. You can think that what I am doing is
using fear, and in a way, you might be right....I fear for this country quite a bit,
not because of a few teabaggers, but how our media promoted them, and didn't report the
obvious when they could have, and should have.

Also read the media's own admission to their part after the fact: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x245689


PS: I found this quote on the GD board, and thought that I'd repost here at GDP and add my
own commentary, because I believe it bears repeating....and although we always knew this,
the media commentators did as well, and yet for days and weeks, and even months...
while they knew, there were on our television screens and in our newspapers playing the game that the GOP had determined...
that's why the media is not, nor will it ever be our friend.
They want to deep-six this presidency and deny us any health care reform of any kind ever,
and most likely any other changes that could be made that might help us, and not them.

[Cha]

1. I rec it and it got zero..we

have some mediawhore fans here.

Thanks for this Frenchie..I'm surprised they admitted it..what are they stupid? Rhetorical.

[FrenchieCat]

2. They think we are stupid.

and unfortunately, enough folks are. That's our problem...
that's why Pres. Obama bringing broadband everywhere in the middle
of the US will help us....that and providing a good solid education
to the people of this nation; because it is obvious to me,
that this country is full of fools!

[Cha]

4. Oh yes, thanks for reminding about the broadband..

you never know when someone might stumble on some facts.

No wonder TPTB want to control the internet, too.

[FrenchieCat]

21. Get the masses some Internet Acess and watch things

get interesting for our media and their propagandizing way.

[lonestarnot]

57. Brakes are on this in China.

[rhett o rick]

74. I agree with you Frenchie. But we need to have a back up system to the internet, because it

is a threat to the oligarchy. They have the resources to take it away from us as they are in China.

[MadMaddie]

6. Yep you said it!

They revel in their ignorance and are pushed into doing stupid things.

[old mark]

26. Sad, but true - the right and the big money people hate real education -

they don't want people knowing how to think...that could be very dangerous.

Read some history, understand the depth of education and thought processes of the colonists and early Americans and compare it to today. Frightening and disgusting.

mark

[johnlucas]

39. Misinformation can spread just as much as information

Better broadband access is definitely a positive but don't look to this as the cure-all.
The internet can inform just as much as misinform.

Those who are foolish will seek out foolish sites that parrot their own inner views.
The important part is getting more access to broader media channels. To have truth blanketed as much as propaganda is.

Sad thing is a lie will travel around the world before the truth gets its pants on.
Broader media fights this.
John Lucas

[vduhr]

61. You've probably hit the nail on the head.

I know too many people that spew Beck and Rush talking points because they don't have access to cable news (they listen to them on the radio). I never watch my local news because they never report on anything other than mostly local and very, very little national news. I was curious to see if anything would be reported by them, so I watch it yesterday evening - they never even mentioned one single word of it. It was as if it never happened.

[juajen]

67. I agree with you on this. This country is due some education because

it is sadly lacking.

I am so tired of recommending a thread and having it negated by someone. I can't see where this is a helpful addition to DU. Can we suggest that Skinner rescind this. I know we were going to try it for a while, but hasn't it been long enough to see that it's becoming a tool that doesn't appear to be democratic?

[rpannier]

24. I don't get that

I don't always agree with what everyone writes and I fave unrec'd a few

I find nothing in this post to be objectionable -- unless one is a fan of the minority party

I'm not sure these people even bother to read posts.
They just sit and wait until something comes up and they unrec it

[bc3000]

59. rec/unrec comments bring so much to a thread!!

Thank you so much!!!

[ccharles000]

3. k/r

[FrenchieCat]

15. Love your pic, Blue Eyes!

and love your work! ;)

[bleever]

5. That is an excellent point.

"The idea that the minority party represents the "will of the people" (not some of the people, but "the people") is the seedling of a totalitarian mindset."

[FrenchieCat]

7. IT was insulting everytime the GOP and their media uttered

that ridiculous idea.

Gawd, those folks make me want to :puke:

[quiet.american]

8. It is astonishing how the GOP got their asses whooped, but now claim to speak for ALL Americans.

To me that is Palin-speak for "real America." And we know what that's about.

[FrenchieCat]

9. But it is scary that the media would simply allow it to be said

over and over and over again.....and I mean the mainstream media,
not the crazy ass RW loonies like Washington Times and Fox.

The fact that tax cuts for the rich will expire in as of January 2011,
makes me think that they will be fighting us very hard, to ensure GOP
take back both houses, if they can manage it.

That's why we need to fucking fight.
Nothing short of that will do.

[quiet.american]

12. Agreed. Further the MSM lent them credibility w/the "angry populism" meme -

- and by covering their pathetic, sparsely-attended "convention" as though it were the Super Bowl. And it is an outrage that MSM continued to give this group credible cover even after opening speaker Tancredo's openly racist remarks -- am I living at the start of the 21st Century, or the 19th or 20th Century?

As the Capitol Police have advised members of Congress -- there is now a need to be vigilant.

[FrenchieCat]

13. It is an outrage....

then they blamed Pres. Obama for the lack of bipartisanship....when they know better
on that front as well.

May they get their Karma, and I mean soon!

[quiet.american]

17. Don't even get me started on that! As though their despicable behavior is OBAMA's fault.

Every weasely DC journalist asks the same question, couched the same way: "Has the president reneged on his promise to bring bipartisanship to Washington?" :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

What more could this President have done to encourage bipartisanship with the Republicans? Rep. Tim Ryan pointed out on the House floor last week that we didn't see Bush spend an entire day with Democrats, patiently listening or see Bush visiting the Democratic Caucus (actually, I think he did -- once in the entire dark 8 years -- towards the end.) But the point remains, Obama has held so many meetings, summits, receptions, etc. with the Republicans, that I read of a Democrat joking that if he wanted to see the President, he should have become a Republican! (With the emphasis on "joking.")

Yet, the question always remains: Has Obama reneged on his promise to bring bipartisanship to Washington?

[FrenchieCat]

18. Cause that's the fucking script!

That's what we are up against, a colluding corporate asshole media.

[lisainmilo]

44. That is it...or at least part of "it"

"That's what we are up against, a colluding corporate asshole media."

You are correct, in my humble opinion Frenchie, with the key word being: "CORPORATE"
that is who is still running the show...I realized this and know I need to get ban together with all of you once again, it has been awhile.

What I see still is the giant puppet master (the Corporations) holding the puppets (media and corporate politicians, ie, GOP) and spewing out their scripts for them, creating division, bullying, using the same tactics of GWB...fear and smear.

[pundaint]

65. Consider that America may be getting our karma now.

[BrklynLiberal]

77. There are those that are trying to drag us back to the 14th Century!!!!!!!!!

[Enthusiast]

31. There will be plenty of

blue dogs fighting to preserve those tax cuts.

[Dappleganger]

10. When I think of 'the will of the people' I look at who is sitting in the Oval Office.

Then I look at who is sitting in the House and then the Senate.

THAT is the will of the people.

No, it isn't always that simple...but sometimes it really is.

[FrenchieCat]

11. as well our overwhelming majorities in both houses........

We won that fucking election for a reason. Dammit!

And Damn CNN and the rest of them of pushing that line,
and not ever saying anything to counter it.
They are the enemy, far as I'm concerned,
and their bully pulpit is even more powerful than that
of this President's!

[Dappleganger]

14. I'm really tired of this bullshit...

that independents who voted for Obama only did it because they hated Bush, and didn't vote for him because he wanted to reform health care as we know it, etc.

[The Wizard]

23. CNN is Pox in a cheap disguise

They pretend to be in the center because Pox being so far into Goebbels propaganda make the right look like the center. I knew CNN was right wing in 98 when they wanted Bill Clinton impeached for not divulging intimate facts of his sex life.
Both CNN and Pox should have their electricity shut off and their broadcast licenses revoked. They are openly working for a violent overthrow of a duly elected government. The same goes for right wing radio.

[Enthusiast]

32. I'm with you on this!

They behave as if the elections of 2006 and 2008 did not happen. Real convenient for them.

[TankLV]

55. It began RIGHT AFTER THE ELECTIONS!!!

The were pushing the meme that it was NOT A MANDATE and that WE better not even TRY to call it a MANDATE and started spewing the "bipartisan" crap RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING!!!

But they were oh so willing to give that WAR CRIMINAL bush* the "benefit of the doubt" and "we're all Amerikkkans now" crap EVEN THO GORE GOT A MILLION MORE VOTES!!!

They have been on Democrats asses since Clinton, and when you and us warned everyone that this time IT WOULD BE EVEN WORSE were unfortunately right.

[my2sense]

16. K & R

[NJGeek]

19. the media will have blood on their hands

should anything happen. the ironic thing is that it would probably be prudent for good liberals to bear arms lest we be attacked by these fruity nutcakes

[FrenchieCat]

20. The Media already have blood on their hands; it's called Iraq.....

but you'd never know it! Somehow when history is written, they are always left out these days.

[disillusioned73]

35. Unfortunately..

The MSM has an inside to track @ "writing" history, since our educational system is going to shit. The future of our politcal & historical knowledge as an electorate will be dependent on what these corporate entities will feed the masses... scary

[mrdmk]

81. Thank-you for your input. Welcome to D.U.

:hi:

[Odin2005]

22. K&R

[cornermouse]

25. The irony of it all or people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

" ideas are not to be discussed, and opposing views are not to respected. What matters is that they alone have truth, they alone are metaphysically connected to the "mind of the people" can interpret their will, and because they have truth and speak for the people,
others represent a threat and must be silenced and stopped."

Think about it and then go look in a mirror.

[FrenchieCat]

27. At least I don't run to OET to talk about people here like a 3 year old.

So I'm at the very least a grown up.
One day when you can reach the mirror,
then maybe you'll see.

[cornermouse]

28. Yeah. Right.

How dumb am I supposed to be according to you? :eyes:

[FrenchieCat]

29. When someone's not acting older than a shoe size,

I usually put them on ignore.
I only took you off to respond,
because I happened to have been reading
this thread in printable form.

Of course you can always crawl back to that hole,
and talk about me some more. You know, you and your cohorts
can call names and shit; do some hardy har-hars and superior yuk-yuks.
That's about your speed anyways.

[cornermouse]

30. Again.

Go look in the mirror, Frenchie.

[Enthusiast]

33. Why are you defending Republicans?

Why attack Frenchie? What is the point?

[goclark]

43. I loved when Frenchie said "shoe size"

:bounce:

That says it all

[DevonRex]

49. That's an OET sport. Then they'll go have a chuckle about it over there.

Complete with attacks on Skinner, et al.

[Bobbie Jo]

51. It's kinda creepy.

Trashing DU non stop, etc....the obsession is just strange.

Makes you wonder. :shrug:

[DevonRex]

53. "...the obsession is just strange."

:rofl:

You said it perfectly. :hi:

[TankLV]

56. FRENCHIE DOESN'T NEED TO! SHE HAS SAID NOTHING TO MERIT YOUR IGNORANT REMARK!!!

I find it disgusting that people are trying - unsuccessfully - to claim "both sides do it" or "everyone is doing it" - WELL, WE DO NOT DO THAT AND HAVEN'T DONE THAT!!! WE HAVE NOT BEEN INCITING VIOLENCE!

THERE IS NO "EQUIVALENCY"!

Go back to your repuke "friends" and have a belly laugh..

[goclark]

42. Shoe size, that fits perfectly!

:bounce:

[cornermouse]

45. Just letting you show yourselves to others through what you post.

Keep up the "good" work.

[goclark]

47. Thanks for the great idea

How sweet the big I is!

[annabanana]

34. "Will of the people"

not a razor thin majority of the Supreme Court, not wildly corrupted machinery (electronic & political) in Ohio..

Is expressed in elections.

Frenchie is right.

[smoogatz]

38. Exactly. We don't do democracy by opinion poll.

If we did, Bush would have been impeached, and Clinton wouldn't. We have these things called elections, which, as we all know, have consequences. If you don't like those consequences, there's another election coming up in short order. If you lose again, no, it does not mean you're disenfranchised--it means your ideas suck and the majority of the American people disagree with you. Shouting at people in town hall meetings or showing up at rallies with guns or calling an American hero a nigger do not confer upon you some magical authority to speak for the American people in complete contradiction of the most recent election results; those are brownshirt tactics, and the people who employ them are nothing but thugs and corporate goons.

[fatbuckel]

40. You gotta be kidding.....

The repubs are the ones that no matter how much proof and research you present them if what you`re saying does`nt fit the idea floating around in RepubWorld then you are full of bulls*it.Facts are not important to them.They will hunt for obscure polling firms that say what they want to hear(51 to 49 with a error rate of 10%!)and quote them like it`s the gospel.They will contradict themselves regularly.(There`s an invention called videotape recording thats been in use for some time,now.)I think it`s high time they start playing along.

[DevonRex]

48. The irony is that you hate DU, yet post here. Not enough folks on OET

anymore, I guess. That's pretty obvious since you're all back here. All 4 of you. :rofl:

[Bobbie Jo]

54. Teh echo chamber iz bo...ring.

:boring:

[Angry Dragon]

36. K&R

[Bluenorthwest]

37. So gee, when some of us shouted NO to hate speech out of

McClurkin, saying it was always wrong, and always bred more hate speech and violence, maybe, just maybe we should have been listened to a bit.
I ask that all who condoned hate speech against minorities and those who fight equal rights for all to take the time to look in the mirror, and say out loud, three times : " I agree with the Tea Baggers that Barney Frank should not have equal rights."
Obama needs to do that too. People need to take inventory of with whom they stand, via these bigoted opinions.
I see many Democrats as being 50% Bagger, because so many of them oppose equal rights for all Americans. They got a faith in common that teaches intolerance and prejudice.
And the fact is that anyone who does not favor equality for all stands with the Tea Party against my community. Lemon, or sugar with your tea?
Why anyone would agree with that crowd of people, or take pride in their areas of agreement is beyond me. But many right here do agree with them. Many in the Beltway as well. Tim Kaine. He's a Bagger on GLBT issues. Full tilt, anti everything for us Tea Bagger.

[deutsey]

41. I wish the anti-war demonstrations got the same media focus Teabaggers get n/t

[BlancheSplanchnik]

46. agree to the 100th power n/t

[JDPriestly]

50. FrenchieCat, what do you mean by "united" as you used it in this phrase?

"We need to be united, because the forces that we are fighting are not only powerful,
but if we let things slip away from us this time, there might not be another..."

I think that you need to clarify your definition within the context of your post. If by "united," you mean "united" in the defense of free expression and free speech, then I am with you.

But if you mean "united" by, we all have to agree with the president on everything and especially on this rather watered-down, inadequate health care so-called reform bill, then I cannot agree with you.

One of the reasons that I am a Democrat is that, as a Democrat, I am free to think for myself. I do not have to agree with other Democrats on every issue.

I support health care reform. I think that the bill that is now being considered in the Senate is a pretty poor excuse for health care reform. It has some great provisions, but it has a lot of really bad ones. It does very little if anything to cut costs. The only costs that it directly cuts are in Medicare, and it does not spell out just what it will cut or how. It is no wonder that a lot of senior citizens who can no longer work are troubled by this so-called reform.

If the Democratic Party wants loyalty from its voters, it needs to be loyal to its voters. When it came to reforming health care, face it, from Obama on down, the majority within the Democratic Party was more concerned about doing passing that insurance companies would like than it was about passing something that would provide every American with access to high quality, affordable health care.

I have been a Democrat all my life. But the Democratic Party that I have supported all my life has never demanded absolute loyalty from me. That's part of the bargain.

Please explain what you mean by "united."

[FrenchieCat]

63. I mean working together towards Democratic victories in 2010 and beyond.....

Debate and disagreements on the particulars of any policy is good and healthy...
but at some point those debates end, and the policy in general, if it reflects progress,
and was always the goal, takes precedence.

and then new debates begins.

I believe that actively working without end to undermine one's own party leadership,
getting stuck in the mud, or distorting the facts to sway minds away from supporting
an agreed upon common goal when the alternative is 10X worse,
is not being united.

[JDPriestly]

72. Agreed! Thank you.

[leftstreet]

64. +1

Nicely said

:thumbsup:

[TankLV]

52. Oh - you are certainly right.

What I don't get, is that these assholes BELIEVE that only THEY can RULE, and can't even conceive of how anybody could vote or think differently than they do, or that other people have differing views - even the VAST OVERWHELMINGLYL MAJORITY OF PEOPLE have contrary views!!!

That was exemplified in the "this decision would unfairly impact bush* abomination of a decision during the 2000 COUP!!! What about GORE - you know - the guy that MORE people WANTED - by MILLIONS?!!!

And now these REPUKE assholes are trying to say it's the Democrats who are to blame for all this violence at THEM by REPUKES because they are now daring to POINT THIS OUT!!!

It's now official: There is not even a "we're sorry YOU'RE upset by OUR actions/words/VIOLENCE!

It's now

"it's YOU'RE fault"
"it's understandable how (these thugs who threaten/do violence) feel because of what YOU did"
"you're seeing this wrong"
"shame on YOU for PUBLICIZING these FEW/ISOLATED incidents"

Well - IT'S NOT A "FEW ISOLATED INCIDENTS" - IT'S NOW A WELL WORN AND DISTURBING - PATTERN!!!

[newtothegame]

58. Uh, that's the constitutution you're talking about. Be careful.

The Supreme Court's decision on abortion was the protection of a minority right, because it likely would have been voted down by fundies had it ever gone to a vote. So are you saying that the Supreme Court in 1973 decided that :

...democracy doesn't matter, ideas are not to be discussed,
and opposing views are not to respected. What matters is that they alone have truth,
they alone are metaphysically connected to the "mind of the people" can interpret their will,
and because they have truth and speak for the people,
others represent a threat and must be silenced and stopped."

:shrug:

[Bobothedogfacedboy]

86. Actually, it wasn't an abortion ruling.

Roe v. Wade decision was based on the right to privacy. Nothing to do with abortion, specifically.

Though the right wing has had ample time to bring cases to the current conservative court, that could overturn Roe v. Wade, it has not. I suspect the reason for that is, they would rather have an emotional campaign talking point. The silly people care about abortion, not the Congress. They only trot it out to get votes.

[humbled_opinion]

60. Your supposition is a double edged sword

In 2006 the Will of the People was clear. The people wanted an end to the Iraqi occupation, Democrats were the minority was your supposition accurate at that moment in history? Now both houses and the Presidency have a large majority of one party, some would say that is equal to totalitarian rule, do you agree?

Obama was right you cannot govern if you pass sweeping change that is not truly bi-partisan.

[FrenchieCat]

62. The bill was bi-partisan, even if the votes weren't......

as for my supposition, I wasn't throwing bricks in 2001 thru 2006 that I recall.

[humbled_opinion]

80. Seriously?

Such denial.

The bill has not one Republican vote therefore your definition is suspect or do you contend that representative democracy is a single party?

Doesn't matter what you think about repuke ideas the fact is that they did put them out there and they did lock step against the bill and the polls have favored their position, the rough sell is on Democrats for exactly the reasons you state but you want to know who's fault that is it is the meek Democrat leadership that did not fight for a truly Nationalized Healthcare bill in other words they are now in the awkward position of defending something that will never solve the problem because many have been lured in to the false security of voting for it was better then voting against it.

The Repukes are going to win on the issue and they are going to defund it and then they will offer Obama a fig leaf and call their version of reform bi-partisan and the sheep will continue to follow.

(mark my words thats how this sad tale ends.)

[flakey_foont]

66. Thanks for posting this

[grantcart]

68. No one understood this better than Lenin.

When the Communist Party split over participating in the Union goverment with socialists and liberals a small group broke out.

Lenin named his group 'the Majority'.


The much larger group ended up becoming called 'the Minority'.


What exactly happened to the Mensheviks anyway?

[Wednesdays]

70. They started making concord grape wine?

:shrug:

[defendandprotect]

69. We are way beyond a corporate-press . . . it's a CIA/Pentagon press . . .

[RobertSeattle]

71. Elections have consequences, Not POLLS

[Clyde39]

73. So---the media really believes that the Republicans are---- "The People"

The not-so-subtle message is loud and clear---the Republican party has all the money and therefore and speaks for Americans. We fringe people will evidently need more bricks to be thrown to teach us proper respect.

[Bobothedogfacedboy]

87. The media believe

...whatever is expedient. Whether there are individuals who work in media outlets who could be said to have a set of beliefs that cohere, or have a moral compass, or a socio political stance, is possible. But as a group, as a herd, as a vocation, I think they are largely ethics-free, and when I think of people in college who say, "I think I'll go into journalism," I know why.

Reporting and journalism are not the same.

[kimmerspixelated]

75. Great Post Frenchie! I honestly don't think the media has a brain.

What they have is pockets full of money from the sponsors. They keep funding Glenn Beck because he's stirring folks up, and that draws attention. AT least we have Rachel and Keith, but even they have to do what the boss dictates now and again. The money trail will tell all. The media has no reason to think about what it's doing, like a bad bacteria let loose in a hospital, it's just looking for the next meal/victim!

[BrklynLiberal]

76. James Howard Kunstler and Mark Morford have written about this repukeness recently.

http://kunstler.com/blog/2010/03/the-party-of-cruelty.html#more

The Party of Cruelty
By James Howard Kunstler
on March 22, 2010 7:13 AM

It was amusing to see the Republican party inveigh against health insurance reform as if they were a synod of Presbyterian necromancers girding the nation for a takeover by the spawn of hell. This was the same gang, by the way, who championed the Medicare Prescription Drug Improvement and Modernization Act of 2003, then regarded as the most reckless giveaway of public funds in human history. Along the way, they enlisted an army of nay-sayers representing everything dark, disgraceful, and ignorant in the American character. If the Republicans keep going this way, they'll end up with something worse than Naziism: a party that hates everything but believes in absolutely nothing.

The most striking elements of so-called health care in America these days is how cruel and unjust it is, and in taking a stand against reforming it the Republican party appeared to be firmly in support of cruelty and injustice. This would be well within the historical tradition of other religious crusades which turned political -- such as the Spanish Inquisition and the seventeenth century war against witchcraft. Whatever else the Democratic party has stood for in recent history, it has tended to oppose institutional cruelty and injustice, and notice that it has also been the party for keeping religion out of government.

Now a health care reform act has passed and there's some reason to hope that insurance companies will be prevented from doing things like canceling the coverage of policy-holders who have the impertinence to actually get sick, which has been their main device for revenue enhancement, and we'll see how they cope with the idea that being alive in a treacherous world is the fundamental pre-existing condition.

I surely don't know if the nation can afford to pay for what this law requires, but then can we really afford to pay for anything? -- including the salaries, retirement benefits, and health insurance of congressmen, not to mention two wars, bailout life support for banks, rising unemployment benefits, shovel-ready stimulus projects, et cetera, blah blah? Probably not.

<snip>

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/03/24/notes032410.DTL&feed=rss.mmorford

The black commie Nazi did it!

By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist

Wednesday, March 24, 2010

Did anyone punch anyone? Was there any actual blood? I think I might've missed it.

Did Pelosi kick John Boehner in the testicles and then run away laughing before a screeching Virginia Foxx grabbed her by the hair, pulled her to the floor and punched her in the kidneys?

Did just about everyone on the House floor bitch-slap Bart Stupak -- who should right now vanish of the face of the earth forevermore, you simpering mealworm -- while Rahm Emmanuel head-butted Harry Reid, even as both burned a sneering Newt Gingrich doll in effigy? I might've been dreaming.

Did Obama finally strut in like a prize-fighter, like a Muay Thai boxer, bruised and exhausted after a solid year of this insane, polarizing BS, the viciousness of which even he never imagined? Did he deliver a dazzling barrage of calm, swift kicks to the heads of bitchy Repubs and nervous Dems alike, as everything devolved into a violent, smoke-filled melee of broken glass and shattered dentures, with little Joe Lieberman whimpering in the corner, rocking back and forth, wondering whatever happened to his integrity?

I don't think any of that happened. It sure felt like it happened. Maybe it should have happened. But I guess it didn't.

Behold, with the astonishing passage of flawed-but-incredible health care reform, we have the concomitant, frightening realization that this remains one of the most acidic, bitter, hopelessly divisive times to live in America and care a whit for national politics while maintaining a shred of morality, hope, a progressive soul.

<snip>

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/03/24/notes032410.DTL&feed=rss.mmorford#ixzz0jE8oDLv2

[Fire1]

78. K&R n/t

[bertman]

79. Chilling indeed! I had the same reaction when I read it on HuffPo. Thanks for posting. REC.

[Name removed]

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[ooglymoogly]

83. The shutting down of access to reality, is the paramount goal

Of corp media; Being the media arm of the pugs. It is hard to force pukespeak beyond the pug zombies, who are a small but loud minority with a huge propaganda megaphone, as long as there is access to reality and the majority still uses its gray matter. The Night of the Living Dead is upon us. The comfortable nights on the sofa or lounge chair in front of the flat screen, lost in whatever are coming fast to an end as folks are finally beginning to realize what the pugs have been and are up to. What they have sewn so shall we reap.

[redqueen]

84. K&R

Thank you, FrenchieCat.

[EndElectoral]

85. I actually heard this on a rightwing station today....

A guy calls in to rightwinger jock Bob Durgan and says that he sincerely beleives that the Democrats will assasinate one of their own Congressman so they can blame it on the Republicans for political purposes. Durgan did not do anything to call out this guy or deny it as a possibility.

Are these guys absolutely insane or what???