SOCIALISM??? SOCIALIST?? The Teabaggers use this shit frequently to describe Obama;....Tthe AUDACITY

[opihimoimoi]

of their Ignorance is Astounding

There is such a thing as GOOD SOCIALISM...the system that runs our Nation and make our collective lives BETTER, SAFER, HOPEFUL, and FRUITFUL

WE have that NOW...its been working since 1776 for Gods sake...

How would the Nation continue without its Military, Postal workers and system, Nation Parks, entitlement programs, infrastructures, etc etc?

This the Teabaggers simply refuse to accept....revealing a narrowness of thinking....and their ignorance of pertinent info/knowledge.

Their Moot Level is also revealed by poorly spelled shit on their posters/signs/banners....

There must be a way to reduce their ignorance....Obama only seems to make it worse....

[damonm]

1. The problem with them is...

they're PROUD of their ignorance - they revel in it.

[opihimoimoi]

3. I noes many people like that...in denial and usually living on the edge

The group within their ranks are them Bullies...which explains their compulsion to make trouble when not getting their way

[mattvermont]

2. Although a step out of the muck and mire

The Health Care Act is the opposite of Socialism....private business wins on this one...big

[opihimoimoi]

4. I think overall, the Nation and its FUTURE Wins...such is the price of compromise I guess...

[ibegurpard]

5. makes me want to puke

I'd be throwing rose petals at his feet if he was even CLOSE

[ShockediSay]

6. Fascists never liked any form of socialist nt

[opihimoimoi]

9. A system has to exist for the working class....exploitive systems rarely last long these days

not like in the old times when dynasties ruled for centuries..

[Oregone]

7. But this isn't good socialism

The HCR was a rejection of socialism. More or less, it makes a clear statement that the expenses, wastes, and immoralities of private insurance are permissible and acceptable for the greater good, and therefore worthy of preservation. This is a private market, pro-capitalistic reform.

[opihimoimoi]

8. Social Evolution requires diversity >>> Social Filters>>> Advancement >>>Progress

P Obamas form of Socialism is in its testing phase....his early results are far more promising than the previous form of GOP Gov't in leadership roles

[Oregone]

13. I think you are confused

"Obamas form of Socialism is in its testing phase"

Its not socialism when you allow the private sector to own the means of production. Thats capitalism.

[opihimoimoi]

16. IMHO Capitalism is a part of Socialism,,,,, The production of goods, services, etc is one thing

while the Social Structures differ...they are intertwined ...both aspects undergo ongoing evolution

[Oregone]

18. Then you are confused for sure

They are contradicting economic systems.

Capitalism: private individuals own the means of production

Socialism: governments owns means of production

No. Capitalism is not a part of socialism, but rather, a direct contradiction.

[opihimoimoi]

22. I'm sorry...What if the Social sys does not own production? as in our present USA?

and yet our lives are surrounded by social aspects for the citizens?

[Oregone]

27. What if? Call it what you will

Thats not socialism.

In the present US there are some socialistic programs, such that you can classify the overall economy as somewhat mixed. Medicare, SS, FDIC, VA, US Postal Office, Education, etc. All those programs that provide services are owned by the government.

But this reform doesn't sit upon that foundation. It is still relying on an expensive, for profit private market to insure, and ultimately, ration care accordingly to the policy holders. Its forced capitalism

[opihimoimoi]

29. yes, we agree....its a mixed system...Presently...its in a flux...evolving into what we want better

[Vinca]

10. Apparently they've never heard of Richard Nixon, whose health care

bill was to the left of this one. I'm fortunate to live in an area which is basically inhabited by sane people, but if I ever ran across a mouthy teabagger I would demand a definition of socialism.

[Orsino]

11. And whether or not socialism is a good thing, President Obama is still not a socialist. n/t

[hobbit709]

12. They can't define any of the words they use.

The best idiotic statement was a little while back when some teabagger stated "Obama wants to be a Marxist leader like Hitler"

That was way beyond a WTF moment.

[opihimoimoi]

14. Most likey a Rookie TeaBagger ill trained and ill prepared let loose to protest

It could also mean the Leaders of the TeaBaggers involved is a Rookie Team Leader low in comm skills....

ROOKIE SYNDROME??

[cmd]

15. How about Czars Are Communists?

A proud "no" nothing carried that sign to a tea party last summer.

[opihimoimoi]

17. LOL....Rookie DUFUS??? LOL

[h9socialist]

19. Most Teabaggers wouldn't know a real socialist if . . .

. . . one expropriated him/her.

I am a 20 year member of DSA, and I've heard it all.

"Socialism" is a word they demonize because they need demons to exist. Any real meaning to the word is lost. Most of them could not tell you who Eugene V. Debs was, let alone Norman Thomas and Michael Harrington.

[fatbuckel]

20. Teabaggers don`t think...they`re told what to say.

[opihimoimoi]

24. Affirmative :o)

[Proud Liberal Dem]

21. To them Socialism=Communism

and, unfortunately, most people don't know any better and the teabaggers are more than happy to use the "socialism" meme to get people upset and agitated. The way the teabaggers talk about it, it would seem to many people that "Socialism", like Communism was during the cold war and so-called "Islamofacism" in the wake of 9/11, is something that we need to fear and avoid at all costs- lest we lapse into a failed state and/or dictatorship.
Of course, teabaggers are able to play on people's fears because a lot of other people don't seem to realize that we already have "socialism" (as embodied primarily by Roosevelt's "New Deal" and LBJ's "Great Society"- both of which the right despises and wants to get rid of) in this country, albeit to a much lesser extent than most European countries (none of which are dictatorships BTW) but we usually don't associate with the fact that having government operated services such as Police, Fire, Libraries, Schools, etc. is actually socialism.
Personally, I would LOVE it if we had European-style Socialism- with government run healthcare, government provided (higher) education, and other services in this country- but it will be a hard, long slog if we are ever to be able to get there.

[opihimoimoi]

25. THANK YOU thank you ....for the Claruty to Sanity...results in Reality

[and-justice-for-all]

23. The topic of my essay for class is Universal Health Care

and Socialism. The paper is arguing for these things of course.

[opihimoimoi]

26. A prudent course to persue...good luck, hope ya do well.

[tledford]

28. They do not understand what the words mean and

1. Don't have a dictionary and/or
2. Can't read.