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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:10 AM
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"the White House is betting that they'll force Republicans into a corner"
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/03/drill-obama-drill/38242/

Drill, Obama Drill
Marc Ambinder

Mar 31 2010, 9:39 AM ET


For a Democratic president, this is a pretty gutsy move to open the public debate about an energy bill. Or, well, maybe it's not: it's high-reward, low-risk; environmentalists will complain, but then again, environmentalists complain. Aside from the substance, which is beyond our ken, the politics of this move is easy: with one fell swoop, Obama deprives Republicans of the major talking point they'd use to object to more expansive government-based climate remediation and energy prospecting policy.

Republicans will quibble over details: why is he not opening up more places? Why is he excluding Bristol Bay? Why is he excluding parts of the Gulf of Mexico? His steps are too slow, too limited...

The Republicans sort of have a point, although it's not the point they're comfortable with: estimates of how much oil can be extracted are very old -- decades old -- and, as the New York Times notes, "{i}n many of the newly opened areas, drilling would begin only after the completion of geologic studies, environmental impact statements, court challenges and public lease sales. Much of the oil and gas may not be recoverable at current prices and may be prohibitively expensive even if oil prices spike as they did in the summer of 2008."

To which the White House responds by pointing to the headlines: "Obama to Open Offshore Areas to Oil Drilling for First Time." Grist, the environmentalist news website, considers the move a "stunning concession to fossil fuel companies." It shows that the president has a sense of urgency about energy and the environment. Etc.

In any event, it seems a little tone deaf, given what the public knows and will learn about the announcement, for Republicans to argue that Obama "continues to defy the will of the American people."

By announcing this BEFORE the Senate moves forward with its climate change legislation, which may or may not include cap-and-trade (probably not), the White House is betting that they'll force Republicans into a corner before the public debate begins, they'll give some cover to moderate Democratic members of Congress (who love it when Obama picks a fight with his own base), and they'll get some public cred with Americans who want to see the president moving quickly to find opportunities to create jobs. This isn't about votes in Congress per se, it's about perception, cover and framing the debate. It's also a move that tries to get ahead of rising gas prices.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:14 AM
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1. a bit of conservation will have better effect than ALL offshore drilling possible nt
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:20 AM
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3. I hope you are right.
This nuance stuff is hard to wrap my brain around. Lol
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:21 AM
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5. Conservation helps IMMEDIATELY. But no one has the nerve to say the word. nt
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 11:44 AM
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18. We know how the concept of conservation
is spun by the corporate media. We are ruled by corporate wishes, no question.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:21 AM
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6. True, but we need a good climate change bill. If this concession makes that possible, that's good.
Whether the Republicans will cooperate--no matter what Obama does-is also questionable. Will they continue to be the party of 'Hell, no.'
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seabeckind Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:24 AM
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9. That's a contradiction.
We cannot have a good climate change bill if concessions are made -- especially if they're made before negotiations begin.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 10:32 AM
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22. I obviously disagree, but the proof is in the pudding. We will see.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:18 AM
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2. Obama should embrace the GOP's entire agenda
think of the corner that would put them in!
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:22 AM
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8. It's all about politics
not about doing the right thing.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:26 AM
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10. They'd still find something to cry about....
...but it would be fun to take away most of their ammo.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:20 AM
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4. ...
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seabeckind Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:22 AM
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7. This Bullsh!t is getting tiresome...n/t
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:28 AM
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11. If they succeed in passing comprehensive climate change legislation...
Edited on Wed Mar-31-10 10:29 AM by Skinner
...then (in hindsight) I think this might end up looking like a savvy political move, and a worthwhile policy compromise. It will depend on what's in the final bill.

But if they don't pass comprehensive climate change legislation, this will have been a huge mistake. I can only hope that the Administration has not signed away its best bargaining chip for nothing.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 11:04 AM
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15. Reminds me of taking single payer off the table before the
HCR debate even got started. I thought that was a very stupid move, but that's when I still believed the PTB actually WANTED the Public Option. Silly me! My bad!

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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:40 AM
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12. Gas will be well over $3.00 a gallon this summer.
As we already know, that causes a poor economy and job losses.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:43 AM
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13. That may be the real point to all this
Obama is trying to take away a major political argument (however unfounded in reality) by the repubs for this falls elections. The 30 percenters won't be swayed, but some independents will be.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 11:44 AM
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19. It was $3.05 in Seal Beach, CA this morning... eom
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 12:05 PM
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21. It was $2.95 here in San Diego, for regular unleaded, on Monday.
It will surely hit about $3.25 here this summer. In San Diego, June/July prices are usually about 25 cents higher than they are in April.
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Exen Trik Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 10:43 AM
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14. Obama...
I'm going to trust you on this. But as an environmentalist, I'm still going to complain. Loudly.

You do your job, I'll do mine.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 11:22 AM
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16. Exactly The Position To Take!
Edited on Wed Mar-31-10 11:22 AM by Beetwasher
:thumbsup:

Welcome to DU.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-31-10 11:46 AM
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20. Well said. nt
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