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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 10:36 AM
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Yes, Barack Obama was the model for Matt Santos on NBC's West Wing.
Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 10:54 AM by Pirate Smile
Imagining Obama on 'The West Wing'

There's always been a fair amount of chatter about the obvious resemblance between candidate Matt Santos on "The West Wing" and candidate Barack Obama.

I hadn't realized, though, how deliberate it was. David Remnick (whose extremely good book I finished over vacation) reports that "West Wing" writer Eli Attie starting writing Santos soon after the 2004 convention speech.

"Attie wanted the new character to be no less a liberal ideal (than Jed Bartlet), but this time he wanted someone of the "post-Oprah" generation, as he put it, someone black or Hispanic, but not an older figure closely tied o the rhetoric of the civil-rights movement and identity politics. ...


So Attie, who had worked in Democratic politics, called David Axelrod and grilled him about Obama.

"Those early conversations with David turned out to play a huge role in my shaping of the character," Attie said. "One of the main things was Obama's attitude about race, his almost militant refusal to be defined by it, which became the basis for an episode I wrote called 'Opposition Research,' in which Santos said he didn't want to run as the 'brown candidate,' even though that's where all his support and fundraising potential were....

A couple of years later, those seasons of "The West Wing" proved so eerily prescient that David Axelrod sent Attie an e-mail from the campaign trail reading, "We're living your scripts!" And yet, while he was making those shows, Attie thought there was "no way" that the real character, Barack Obama, could go much farther than the Senate. "I just didn't think he could be the President of the United States in my lifetime, given the color of his skin," he said.


UPDATE: The Guardian wrote this long ago. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/21/barackobama.uselections2008

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0410/Imagining_Obama_on_The_West_Wing.html#comments


edit to add:

From West Wing to the real thingScriptwriters modelled TV's ethnic minority candidate on young Barack Obama


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"I drew inspiration from him in drawing this character," West Wing writer and producer Eli Attie told the Guardian. "When I had to write, Obama was just appearing on the national scene. He had done a great speech at the convention and people were beginning to talk about him."
Attie, who served as chief speechwriter to Al Gore during the ill-fated 2000 campaign and who wrote many of the key Santos episodes of the West Wing, put in a call to Obama aide David Axelrod.
"I said, 'Tell me about this guy Barack Obama.'"

With the Latino actor Jimmy Smits already cast for the show, Attie was especially keen to know how rising star Obama approached the question of his race. Axelrod's answers helped inform Santos's approach to his own Hispanic identity.
"Some of Santos's insistence on not being defined by his race, his pride in it even as he rises above it, came from that," Attie said.
The scriptwriter also borrowed from Obama's life the notion of a superstar candidate. "After that convention speech, Obama's life changed. He was mobbed wherever he went. He was more than a candidate seeking votes: people were seeking him. Some of Santos's celebrity aura came from that."

The result is a bizarre case of art imitating life - only for life to imitate art back again.

In the TV show, Santos begins as the rank outsider up against a national figure famous for standing at the side of a popular Democratic president. There are doubts about Santos's inexperience, having served just a few years in Congress, and about his ability to persuade voters to back an ethnic minority candidate - even as his own ethnic group harbour suspicions that he might not identify with them sufficiently.

But the soaring power of his rhetoric, his declaration that the old divisions belong in the past and his sheer magnetism, ensure that he comes from behind in a fiercely close primary campaign and draws level with his once all-commanding opponent. Every aspect of that storyline has come true for Barack Obama. Axelrod, now chief strategist for the Obama campaign, recently joked in an email to Attie: "We're living your scripts!"

What's more, the West Wing had the Republicans choose between a Christian preacher - a pre-echo of Mike Huckabee - and an older, maverick senator from the American west whose liberal positions on some issues had earned the distrust of the party's conservative base: a dead ringer for John McCain. In the West Wing, the McCain figure emerges comfortably as the party's choice. Apparently the character was not based on the current Republican frontrunner, but was simply a function of the casting of Alan Alda.
"It was always an inside joke on the West Wing that the show had a prophetic quality," recalls Attie, now a writer and producer of House, starring Hugh Laurie.

Various political scenarios sketched out on the programme would often materialise within weeks of airing. But the 2008 campaign, Attie concedes, is in an entirely different league.

There are small differences of course. Santos had a white wife - stressing, says Attie, Santos's standing as a "post-racial figure" - while Michelle Obama is African-American. Ms Obama is the more outspoken, but with two young children each, both are equally photogenic.
Obama aides will be hoping that the West Wing's prophetic streak holds: Santos eventually emerged as the Democratic nominee from a brokered convention - and went on to win the presidency.

Barack Obama v Matt Santos
Barack Obama


Young, handsome and charismatic member of Congress, attempts to become America's first non-white president.
Began political career as a community organiser in a big city (Chicago) before winning first election at local level. Married, with two young children.
Faced stiff opposition in Democratic primary against occupant of the White House during previous Democratic administration (first lady Hillary Clinton)
Rivals attack him as inexperienced after just four years in Congress, but triumphs through grassroots support, inspiring speeches and message of change.
Republican opponent is veteran moderate senator from a western state, unpopular with conservative base (John McCain of Arizona).

Matt Santos

Young, handsome and charismatic member of Congress, attempts to become America's first non-white president.
Began political career as a community organiser in a big city (Houston) before winning first election at local level. Married, with two young children.
Faced stiff opposition in Democratic primary against occupant of the White House during previous Democratic administration (vice president Bob Russell).
Rivals attack him as inexperienced after just six years in Congress, but triumphs through grassroots support, inspiring speeches and message of change.
Republican opponent was veteran moderate senator from a western state, unpopular with conservative base (Arnie Vinick of California).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/feb/21/barackobama.uselections2008

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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:01 AM
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1. I miss West Wing.
:cry:

On the other hand . . . we have the real deal now! :loveya:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:18 AM
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2. Interesting to watch the rec war on this (why??). On Greatest page then voted down enough to be
off it. Weird.
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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 11:28 AM
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3. What is with everyone's obsession with recs/unrecs?
It doesn't necessarily mean someone disagrees with the story, it could simply mean they don't think it belongs on the greatest page.

I hardly think this belongs on the greatest page, imho.

Therefore I unrec even though West Wing was one of my favorite tv shows. So much so that I somehow found a way to hook up with someone on the internet and swap vhs recordings of episodes we had missed - and yes, this was before the whole tv on dvd thing and bittorrent and hulu.com etc... I don't even know how I accomplished it, maybe it was the beginnings of "yes we can".



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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 12:21 PM
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4. The West Wing was MY administration during the * years ...
My husband never saw it as he goes to bed so early. Then came the reruns and he started watching early in the morning before leaving for work. One evening he was recounting one of the episodes (The Stackhouse Filibuster), and the tears started. I can count on one hand how many times I have seen him cry and we both ended up in tears.

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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:25 PM
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9. "The Stackhouse Filibuster" is one of my favorites, too. The Senators rushing into the chamber
to help Stackhouse always gets me misty, as well. I love the fact that the first Senator to respond is from Washington State. (A guy, although we have two lady Senators and a female governor as well. This state rocks...)
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 03:32 PM
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5. Many of the young politics and policy geeks I know are WW fans
I do not think this is a coincidence.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 03:47 PM
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6. Just got done rewatching the Series. Its freaky how alike everything was towards the end.
Vinick was McCain before he started being a complete prick. Santos was Obama. Young, attractive candidate with a short time in Washington. Two little kids, wants to champion lobbying reform. Wins the nomination in a hard fought battle that goes all the way to the convention while Vinick wraps up the nomination very early and watches the Dems kill each other for months. Vinick as Secretary of State vs Hillary as Sectary of State. Rahm Emanuel is supposed to be Josh Lyman. Josh is Chief of Staff for Santos, Rahm is COS for Obama.

I'm sure there's more.
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demtenjeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:50 PM
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7. Lets hope the Leo character doesn't foreshadow anything!
also, who was VP after Leo died? Sam?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 04:51 PM
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8. I think it was supposed to be Baker (Ed O'Neil)
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 05:49 PM
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10. Leo wasn't VP.
He was chief of staff. CJ took over for him.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 07:49 PM
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14. No, he was chosen as Matt Santos' VP candidate.
John Spencer, sadly, died before the seventh season ended--so his character on the show dies of a massive heart attack on Election Night.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 06:53 PM
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11. sigh ... now I wish I hadn't stopped watching before the end...
Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 06:53 PM by Clio the Leo
... my mother has all of the DVDs though. May have to borrow some. It's a kick to watch now knowing how the real West Wing is laid out compared to the one on the show.

I'm just glad they have flippin' lights in that place! lol



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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 07:02 PM
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12. The Demise of the West Wing was greatly exaggerated
It went downhill in the 5th season, but the 6th and the 7th were great. While the Sorkin years in my opinion made West Wing the best show ever, the final three seasons of the show were still some of the best on TV at the time.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-05-10 07:47 PM
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13. God, I love that show so goddamn much.
I have the full series collector's edition and I have watched the SHIT out of it.

Favorite episodes include "Take This Sabbath Day" for drunk Josh and "The Supremes" for Glenn Close as new Chief Justice.
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