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Mon Apr-05-10 02:52 PM
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What the hell is wrong with California? We're about to put another republican in office? |
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I don't get this state. Arnold was enough. It's also sad that Jerry Brown is the best the Dems could do.
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Mon Apr-05-10 02:53 PM
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1. Jerry Brown has not even started campaigning yet. |
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:46 PM
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20. He doesn't have to until the primaries are over. |
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Let Whitman and Poizner deplete their campaign coffers fighting each other and when the winner emerges you will see Brown come out swinging.
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Mon Apr-05-10 11:45 PM
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43. He never has to start |
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Whitman's coffers will never be depleted.
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Mon Apr-05-10 02:54 PM
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2. Gotta get those Mexicans... n/t |
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:48 PM
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Depends on which ones your aiming for. |
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Majority of the ones that can vote...normally vote Republican. It's a well known fact that most Mexican-Americans with money in California normally vote Republican. The illegal ones, who unfortunately can't vote, would probably vote in large numbers for Dems.
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Mon Apr-05-10 05:06 PM
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you wouldn't BELIEVE how many Prop 8 bumper stickers I saw with adult hispanics driving around in newer nice cars.
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Mon Apr-05-10 07:44 PM
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37. FIrst rule of treehouse... |
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Mon Apr-05-10 07:51 PM
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39. You'd see the same thing on the East Coast from Cuban-Americans. |
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Similar make-up in voting style once they have money. I think out of everyone, Boricuans are the mostly vote Dem.
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Mon Apr-05-10 02:54 PM
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3. Do enlighten us as to what is so "sad" about Jerry Brown's candidacy? Back up your dig. n/t |
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Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 02:55 PM by ClarkUSA
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Mon Apr-05-10 02:55 PM
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4. He's had his shot, were is the new blood. I actually like the guy from SF. Young, energetic NT |
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Mon Apr-05-10 03:07 PM
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8. That's it? You could say the same thing about Marc Rubio but it doesn't mean much. |
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Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 03:20 PM by ClarkUSA
Brown certainly is more likely to beat Meg Whitman than 'the guy from SF".
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:12 PM
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:27 PM
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17. "The guy from San Francisco"? |
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:55 PM
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The one who had an affair with his good friend and aide's wife (a la the notorious Senator Ensign)? The one who continues to punish the homeless rather than deal with them in a more just manner? That guy? Now he *would* be a sad candidate...
I heard he'll run for lieutenant governor anyway.
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Mon Apr-05-10 05:11 PM
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31. Newsom IS running for Lieutenant Governor... |
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It's official.
I believe he announced some weeks ago.
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Mon Apr-05-10 07:56 PM
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40. Gavin dropped out because he knew |
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he couldn't win. He is a virtual unknown in Southern California and so he decided to try Lieutenant Gov. first.
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Mon Apr-05-10 02:58 PM
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5. seems as if an old hand at the tiller would be valuable |
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Mon Apr-05-10 03:20 PM
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Brown has a long record of accomplishments that make him the best-qualified candidate to fix the mess in Sacramento.
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:48 PM
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21. Not only that, he's been in CA politics for so long that he knows |
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where all the bodies are buried.
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Mon Apr-05-10 02:59 PM
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6. Remember, Phil Angelides led Arnold early on in 2006 |
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And we know the result of that one.
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Mon Apr-05-10 03:02 PM
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7. I have been misled to believe the election was not until |
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November, with a primary to be had in June.
I'm apparently woefully misinformed. Silly me.
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Mon Apr-05-10 03:08 PM
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Mon Apr-05-10 11:48 PM
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44. Everyone knows who the candidates are going to be. |
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For some reason Jerry Brown does not want to campaign.
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:00 PM
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11. The problem is with the Democratic Party, not with the state |
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:09 PM
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12. Bingo. Got that nail right on it's head. |
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:13 PM
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14. You seem like a very concerned person. nt |
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:55 PM
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25. You got that right. n/t |
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:14 PM
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15. Right now it's just Meg Whitman versus Steve Poizner. |
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Edited on Mon Apr-05-10 04:17 PM by 4lbs
They are beating the crap out of each other for the GOP nod in the primary.
You know what their ads pretty much boil down to? Calling each other 'liberals' (OMG!!111!!! Not that!!!11!!!) and being in lockstep with Obama. That's it.
Jerry Brown is running pretty much uncontested for the Democratic party, so he hasn't had to make any ads and is saving his money for this summer and fall.
All the polling numbers you see are because of Whitman's and Poizner's back-and-forth with each other.
Since CA voters are little different than national voters, in that they only really remember stuff told to them in the last 90 days, Jerry Brown doesn't need to do anything but sit back and wait.
Going 'chicken-little' 7 months before the election is stupid. Wait until the October 2010 polling numbers for a better read on how things will go.
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:49 PM
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Then Brown will save tons of money fighting against whomever... and if he sticks to telling us what he plans to do (which the R candidates have yet to do) he will be just that much more ahead.
These two Pubbies are slinging a lot of mud... and none of it is hitting Brown... so far.
Let 'em hurl at each other... doesn't worry me one little bit! Makes me quite happy, actually.
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:16 PM
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16. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO and NO |
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Moonbeam WILL win. Whitman is going DOWN. It must be. It must, I tell you. I can't take this shit anymore.
If I could I'd redraw the border just above Santa Barbara and let them wallow in their own mess, cause it ain't Northern California's fault. We'd never have Repuke governors if it weren't for the ass-end of the state dragging us down (with apologies to all left-leaning SoCal folks).
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:42 PM
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19. You'd be cutting off millions of liberals in the Los Angeles area and |
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apparently you've never been in Northern California above Marin County, which is very red as are the Central Valley and the Sierras. Unfortunately, you need those lib votes from the south.
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Mon Apr-05-10 06:07 PM
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33. I am taking that into account |
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And yes I have been above Marin County, actually. Humboldt, Sacramento, Solano, Napa, Sonoma, Mendocino, Lake Counties - all blue. The red boondocks you refer to are not population centers. Even the Central Valley is not overwhelmingly red - many areas have just a slim majority and that may be changing for the better. Add that to Santa Cruz, Monterey County and the super-densely populated Bay Area and you have a strongly blue Northern Half.
I would never want to cut off any like-mined liberals, but strictly in terms of numbers, if you split the state into North and South, don't you think the South would turn red?
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Mon Apr-05-10 06:58 PM
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35. No. Even the Orange County reds still want to smoke their weed |
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and have their hot tub parties. It would only take an election or two for them to see the light at the end of their joint.
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Mon Apr-05-10 08:10 PM
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41. Well somebody's voting for these Repukes |
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Orange County, San Diego County...these places frighten me.
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:40 PM
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18. The best Dems could do? |
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He was a great governor when he did it the first time and he left us with a surplus. He's got my vote and my support.
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:53 PM
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23. Jerry Brown is a fine candidate... |
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...and California will be very lucky to get him, if they manage to get past the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ spent by the Megster and succeed in electing him.
He is both experienced and visionary. Not to mention, the last time he was governor, he left the state with a surplus.
Go, Jerry! Here's hoping! (yes I will be contributing to his campaign)
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:54 PM
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And I suppose I'll be called a sexist for saying this, but she is carrying a lot of Ugly.
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Mon Apr-05-10 04:57 PM
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27. If she becomes governor, we will be begging for Arnold back. |
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:eyes:
And I think Arnold is a useless bunch of hot air.
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Mon Apr-05-10 05:01 PM
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28. Seven months from now is 'about to'? |
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All that energy needs to get behind defeating which ever Republican wins the current slime fest, probably the revolting Mega Bucks Meg. And Jerry Brown is one of the best governors California has ever had, his father was another. I've met Jerry Brown once or twice, and he is without a doubt the most grounded and informed politician I have ever met. I've met a lot of them.
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Mon Apr-05-10 05:04 PM
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29. Jerry Brown is probably my all time fav politician. nt |
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Mon Apr-05-10 05:28 PM
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32. CA checking in: many here plan to campaign for Brown |
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I know a lot of dems that are anxious for the summer campaign to begin. California can definitely elect him again! Our local Democratic HQ is going to be a busy place with the Boxer and Pelosi campaign s too. I'd also love to see our current congresswoman Bono-Mack finally get the boot.
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Mon Apr-05-10 06:27 PM
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34. Ed showed she had a 3 point lead |
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How is that a certain thing?
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Mon Apr-05-10 07:30 PM
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36. Its jobs and the economy.. |
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Many see Republicans as being better for business and economy which translates into jobs.
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Mon Apr-05-10 07:47 PM
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38. Whitman's been pouring money into TV ads and she still only has a 3 pt lead. |
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There are seven months until the election. No need to panic.
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Mon Apr-05-10 11:12 PM
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42. No we're not. And Jerry.... |
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...Brown will be a great governor. We need experience. Brown has it...in abundance.;)
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Tue Apr-06-10 03:55 PM
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45. Jerry's letting BIG spender Meg enrich the California economy. |
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Jerry Brown is known for being very frugal. The contrast between Jerry and Meg should be interesting. Meg looks like the political equivalent of a "shop-a-holic" - a real gift to the advertising agencies and TV/radio media who need the money. It will backfire on her campaign when the citizens are looking for someone who is frugal.
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Tue Apr-06-10 06:23 PM
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46. Many key voters are too young to remember Brown |
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It concerns me that he is waiting until June. He need to do something low budget but efficacious until then such as ads in the subways etc, planting the seed:
e.g. Meg Whitman-- a Republican: wants to kill the educational system and essential services; enemy government and working Californians.
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Tue Apr-06-10 08:13 PM
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47. Why not elect the real thing since what we have are DINOS |
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Tue Apr-06-10 08:17 PM
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48. What's worrying about this is that people were stupid enough to keep Arnold in office. |
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After California went downhill during the gubengrabber's reign, Meg is banking on Californians having a short attention span. I hope that isn't true. I hope some folks have a long memory that extends back to that horrible recall drive to get Gray Davis out of office. :(
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