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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 04:58 PM
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TOON: the oil spill & Obama's brilliant corporate stooge advisor
Obama backed clean coal and we get dead miners.

Obama backed off-shore oil drilling and we get an oil spill rivaling the Exxon Valdez.

Obama backed new nuclear plants too--will it take a meltdown to convince him that you don't switch from dirty energy by keeping it on life support?

He's done a lot on clean energy but needs to do even more and bleed the dirty energy producers to pay for it.

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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 05:01 PM
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1. Yeah it's all Obama's fault
we get it. thanks.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 05:17 PM
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2. nope--but he doesn't need to do oil companies any favors.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 05:31 PM
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5. No, but Rahmbo, on the other hand...
:shrug:

Just sayin'...

NGU.

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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 05:21 PM
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3. Obama backed wind turbines too.
Does this mean that they'll start randomly exploding?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 05:24 PM
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4. so you think the DLC strategy of sucking up to corporations is a good idea?
Edited on Sat May-01-10 05:29 PM by yurbud
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 06:40 PM
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6. I think sucking up to constituents is a good idea.
A great many constituents work for large organizations, but I think that needs to be balanced by also sucking up to those who *aren't* part of large organizations.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638
http://images.opensecrets.org/obama_top_contribs.htm?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638

Looks like University of California (and Harvard, and Stanford and Columbia) have a huge amount "invested" in Obama, along with Tech and Finance companies... at least in top contributors.

By industry in general:
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 09:49 PM
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11. corporations aren't democracies and they only ''help'' their employees incidentally
if they think it is in their financial interest to screw their employees, they will do so in a heartbeat.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 08:22 PM
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7. he also breathes air, so air must be bad too
;)
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 08:44 PM
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8. Uhh, the reason we have so much coal now was the irrational adversion to Nuclear power.... nt
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 08:50 PM
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9. "aversion".
Edited on Sat May-01-10 08:50 PM by BlooInBloo
And I'm pretty sure there was a fledgling coal industry in the US somewhat before nuclear powerplants ever existed.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 07:10 PM
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14. those are not the only options. Those in power like them because they can be monopolized
solar, wind, and small scale hydro cannot.

If we were depending primarily on those sources from big power plants like a solar or wind farm and utilities started charging too much, people could easily get the idea to make their own at home and do it.

You can't drill your own oil well and refine the oil, dig your own coal mine, or build your own nuclear plant, so those are choke points the rich can use to squeeze us, which is exactly what they did here in California when we were blackmailed out of $14 billion by energy traders when we had our last Democratic governor. They then used the resulting deficit to beat up the governor and shoehorn Arnold into office.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-02-10 07:25 PM
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15. Irrational?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 08:56 PM
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10. Another post that attacks Obama but not the previous 30
years of mostly Republican leadership.

"Free Market self-regulating" policies have led to these disasters and Obama wasn't there when they were inacted. Once again he is left to clean up a Republican and Blue Dog mess.

I will keep saying this.....we have now had catastrophic failures in the self-regulated Oil and Coal Mine industry......what's next?

Workers are getting killed because of this "Free Market self - regulation"!!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-01-10 09:51 PM
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12. Obama is in a position to change it. I said what's next: the last of the dirty trinity...
Nukes will blow up in his face like coal and oil have.

There was no reason to give breaks to these industries if we are serious about switching to clean energy.
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