My heart sank when I heard Obama's joking comment about predator drones

[elocs]

made to the Jonas brothers at the White House Correspondents dinner. "You will never see it coming".

A lot of innocent civilians in Afghanistan also lost their lives when they didn't see the predator drones coming. I sure wish Obama had not said that because it was not worthy of a laugh. Predator drones are not a joke anymore than joking about weapons of mass destruction.

This dinner is a landmine and I'm not sure if Obama could safely negociate it any more than Bush did. Granted, most of us thought he was more clever and funny than Bush, but the freepers thought the same thing of Bush at the time.

[Sky Masterson]

1. I thought it was funny.

..

[elocs]

3. Do you think it would be funny to those having loved ones killed by predator drones?

Innocent people? Women, children?

I like to believe that one of the things which separate us, Democrats, from Republicans is empathy. Our ability to place ourselves in the place of others and to feel their pain.

Predator drones are not a joke or a joking matter. Somebody should have known better.

[Sky Masterson]

5. No

But I think that as the joke it was intended to be that it was funny.
People are too sensitive

[IndianaGreen]

9. The funny, funny, lives of the America political elites

who have nothing in common with the rest of us.

[Sky Masterson]

12. Anyone that seriously believes that Obama

would use Predator Drones against the Jonas Brothers lacks a sense of humor.:eyes:
The Poutrage is silly to me.

[IndianaGreen]

17. Obama has announced that he will use them against Americans

It is his policy! I am sure that the Beltway fat cats think this is all funny. It isn't!

Intelligence Official Acknowledges Policy Allowing Targeted Killings Of Americans

NEW YORK – Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair acknowledged in a congressional hearing on Wednesday that the U.S. may, with executive approval, deliberately target and kill U.S. citizens who are suspected of being involved in terrorism. The American Civil Liberties Union expressed serious concern about the lack of public information about the policy and the potential for abuse of unchecked executive power.

http://www.aclu.org/national-security/intelligence-official-acknowledges-policy-allowing-targeted-killings-americans

[Sky Masterson]

23. OMG! You are right!

What's that outside my window..oooooooooooh Shitttttttttt! Kablooooom!!!!!!

[MadMaddie]

59. You missed an important section

<snip>
the president assassination of Americans ABROAD, even if they are far from any battlefield and may have never taken up arms against the U.S., but have only been deemed to constitute an unspecified 'threat.
<snip>

If an American makes the decision to go to a foreign country and involve themselves in plans to attack America and American troops or another country that is an American allie to commit another 9/11 then all bets are off. These Americans are counting on trying to hide behind their "American" identity to not get identified as a terrorist.

These particular Americans have done this to themselves. If they were in the U.S they would be guaranteed the protections and rights of the rest of us, a fair trial and a chance to defend themselves.

[marshall]

48. Reagan made a similar joke about bombing Russia

He was testing a mic out. Nobody thought much of it at the time.

[Sky Masterson]

51. Omg!! He IS after the Jonas Brothers!!

This could start a war against Boy pop bands!!!!

[awoke_in_2003]

94. That might be one war...

i could back :)

[GinaMaria]

66. seriously?

I remember a lot of outrage at that time. It was on the news, peeps were talking about it. Reagan's 'joke' was horrifying to people at the time. Even my ultra conservative family was upset by it.

[Zenlitened]

74. Guess you weren't paying attention back then.

:shrug:

[marshall]

85. Attention spans have changed since then

Reagan's statements weren't broadcast and by the time it was leaked it was hours later.

I do agree there were people who squeezed out some outrage about it--but it was never anything serious.

[CreekDog]

50. You lost me at "Poutrage"

.

[Sky Masterson]

53. It's a take off on pout and outrage

:D

[CreekDog]

55. You didn't lose me over defining the term

You lost me at using it in the first place.

[Sky Masterson]

61. Before you read the word "Poutrage" were you offended by the drone Joke?

If you were,then the word didn't lose you and if you weren't,then I'm sorry one word changed your mind.
I mean you can't lose what you never had.
The reason I used that word in the first place is because some people get offended by the littlest thing.IT WAS A JOKE.
Was Obama advocating using drones against pop stars? No. He wasn't.

[CreekDog]

62. Not really...but I can see how some people would be

"Poutrage" is a stupid word to use at people, especially based on the fact that they don't think war is something to joke about, which is perfectly understandable and reasonable.

[Sky Masterson]

65. Fair enough

And it is a stupid word(I didn't coin it).
I don't like war.I want our guys home and out of Afghanistan.
War is evil.People laugh at evil often to get through it.
I don't believe for one second that Obama wants to kill people(Except Osama and I'm right there with him on that).

[quickesst]

130. I suggest you quit spinning your wheels....

..in the mud of the "enlightened" who will never get it because their "enlightenment" will always get in the way of simple logic, and common sense. You need to be very selective of the humor presented here lest you be accused of being and or believing something that simple common sense says you are not. I get it, and you can only feel a little sorry for those who do not. Thanks.
quickesst

[noamnety]

68. Skinner has suggested that we not use the word poutrage

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=5524913&mesg_id=5527877

When it's used, the point isn't to persuade through logic or promote civil debate. The purpose seems to be to belittle the people you disagree with by infantilizing them - which would constitute a personal attack.

[Sky Masterson]

70. I wasn't aware of that

I'll stop using it here.

[WonderGrunion]

128. It hasn't stopped Rachel Maddow from using the word.

n/m

[noamnety]

132. I'm shocked.

I thought skinner was the administrator at MSNBC.

[Zenlitened]

73. Wow. You're not even having the same conversation...

... as most of the people in this thread.

:wow:

[Sky Masterson]

80. That is because I think this thread is silly

People here act as if Pres.Obama microwaved a kitten.

[zappaman]

110. He microwaved a kitten????

Man, I am totally against that!
Unless, you serve it with a dijon mustard sauce.
But, jokes are jokes.
Some people are waaaaay too serious around here.

[ClarkUSA]

15. The even funnier lives of DU's 24/7 Obama critics...

... who are always looking for opportunities to bash this President and who have nothing in common with the large majority of self-described liberals, who approve of President Obama's job performance in poll after poll.

[IndianaGreen]

22. A future President may order a drone strike on you

You obviously haven't considered the implications of how far we have slid down the rabbit hole.

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[Robb]

38. ...

[ClarkUSA]

40. lol! That's exactly how I feel.

:yourock:

[elocs]

60. Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not an Obama critic overall.

I was simply disappointed in that one comment used jokingly. I voted for Obama in the Wisconsin primary and in the general election and I will vote for him in 2012. I waited for hours to see him when he made a campaign speech in my city.

No, I'm not a 24/7 Obama critic.

[ClarkUSA]

64. I know. Please note that I was not replying to you.

I don't agree with you, but of course you're entitled to your honest opinion. However, there are certain folks here at DU whose only purpose seems to be glomming onto every disapproving OP they can in order to bash Obama in an over-the-top fashion, whether it makes sense or not.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

79. At least you arent still quoting the NYT and claiming it as your own n/t

[ClarkUSA]

82. Don't you ever get tired of making up shit to attack Obama and his supporters? Guess not.

Good thing we have new rules around here at Democratic Underground that keeps that sort of bullshit down to a relative minimum, eh?

:)

[elocs]

54. I wonder...who is it who gets to decide exactly how sensitive people should be?

The world would probably be a better place if it erred on the side of people being too sensitive than not sensitive enough.

The bottom line in my opinion is that jokes about predator drones are not funny because they are used to kill people who never see them coming.

[Sky Masterson]

63. I do of course.(I kid)

So jokes about anything that sneaks up and kills people aren't funny by your logic.
That sort of narrows the field of humor.

[quiller4]

118. So did I. I admit to have a dark sense of humor. I comes from

years of working emergency services.

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[Dawgs]

4. Are you serious?

I can't even think of how to respond to something so immature.

[IndianaGreen]

6. U.S. Drone attacks causing civilian deaths illegal

U.S. Drone attacks causing civilian deaths illegal

Daya Gamage – US National Correspondent Asian Tribune

Washington, D.C. 26 April (Asiantribune.com): October last year at a news conference at the New York U.N. head office Philip Alston, the UN’ Special Rapporteur on Extrajudicial Executions, referring to the Drone attacks by U.S. Special Operations forces in Afghan/Pak region which caused deaths of innocent civilians, said that the strikes “might violate international humanitarian law and international human rights law.”

At this news conference Mr. Alston – who has pressed governments, like that of Sri Lanka, to investigate extrajudicial killings during wars – explicitly asked for an explanation from the American government.

It was after several months that the Obama administration through its Chief Legal Counselor Harold Koh who is attached to the Clinton State Department made an attempt to explain why the administration considers the drone attacks legal.
The Asian Tribune in a previous report presented Mr. Koh’s explanation that the drone attacks were within the international law and that there is no violation whatsoever of such covenants.

The New American Foundation study in an analysis of U.S. drone strikes in Pakistan 2004-2010 released in February this year shows that the 114 reported drone strikes in northwest Pakistan from 2004 to the present have killed between 830 and 1,210 individuals, of whom around 550 to 850 were described as militants in reliable press accounts, about two-thirds of the total on average. Thus, the true civilian fatality rate since 2004 according to our analysis is approximately 32 percent.

The killing of civilians in drone attacks is an important and politically charged issue in Pakistan. The strikes are quite unpopular among Pakistanis, who view them as violations of national sovereignty, says the study

http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2010/04/26/us-drone-attacks-causing-civilian-deaths-illegal

[Dawgs]

14. Nothing to do with Obama's joke.

I guess some our just more sensitive than others.

BTW, I have no use for war or joking about war.

His joke last night was neither. Unlike Bush's joke about weapons of mass destruction.

[elocs]

8. So, making jokes about predator drones is funny to you?

That type of humore is immature, but I'm sure Bush got a good laugh out of it.

Obama could have said something as funny for the situation without using predator drones.

[Dawgs]

13. Yes. In the context of the joke, absolutely.

He made no reference to war, soldiers dying, etc. It was no different than any other father making a threatening joke to young men about his daughter(s).

It was harmless.

[DesertRat]

7. I found that joke unsettling as well. n/t

[IndianaGreen]

10. The joke is on a par with Bush's jokes about looking for WMD at the same venue

several years ago.

[ClarkUSA]

19. Apples and oranges much? Nice try at the tired ol' Obama = Bush meme so beloved of certain DUers...

... who enjoy criticizing President Obama, no matter how ridiculous the analogy.

[jefferson_dem]

21. Not even close.

Nice try though.

[IndianaGreen]

24. People died on account of Bush, and people are dying on account of Obama

Nothing has changed except for the names of the dead.

[ClarkUSA]

28. People died on account of Abraham Lincoln, FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, Bill Clinton, etc.

I'm very happy at how many Al-Qaeda leaders have been killed by predator drones. It sure beats sending in troops.

[jefferson_dem]

30. Bush's bogus WMD claim resulted in the most disasterous foreign policy blunder...

in a generation. He and his henchmen promulgated that lie knowing it was one. Thousands of Americans service members and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis have died and nearly a trillion dollars wasted as a result of that lie. In his routine, Bush was mocking those who called him out for lying.

Predator drones are employed as a military tactic, as are other types of weaponry. In most cases (at least), they have been very efficient. That's not a bad thing... Sorry.

[elocs]

11. Empathy in action. Congratulations, it's a noble attribute. n/t

[secondwind]

16. lighten up, please. We [you] cannot go around reading too much into a light-hearted

moment!

[elocs]

26. Freepers thought the same about Bush's comments as well as those of McCain

about bombing Iran. "Lighten up, they were only joking" is what they would tell us.

[jefferson_dem]

18. Right on the line but didn't cross it, in my opinion.

[rug]

20. There's nothing funny about predator drones.

[elocs]

27. Apparently some think there is, as long as it's in context though. n/t

[rug]

33. I supppose the context of a Jonas brother screwing your daughter makes it funny.

[DesertRat]

45. It's creepy considering they are adults and one is married. n/t

[elocs]

49. Considering that Obama's daughters are 11 & 8 the whole concept setting up the joke is stupid.

Or that the Jonas brothers would be hitting on an 11 or 8 year old girl.

[HipChick]

58. Then again...people are taking this way too seriously...

[tekisui]

91. The 'context' is whether Obama said it.

[marshall]

29. It's called gallows humor

The utter seriousness of it is what makes it so funny.

[Sky Masterson]

31. I think the Obama Daughters would be a bit pissed at Dad

if he took out the Jonas Brothers(The idea of it has it's merit) ;)

[spoony]

117. The hangman does not have a right to gallows humour. nt

[Phx_Dem]

32. It was a joke. Didn't bother me at all.

[ensho]

34. I too thought it was terrible to joke about drones!

jokes can be used to stab and kill

[OwnedByFerrets]

35. I'm with you 100%. Millions thought Monkeyboy was funny

too when he was joking about WMDs. Nothing is funny about killing people.

[elocs]

56. I wonder if an upcoming drone attack would kill 11 & 8 year old girls

how Obama would feel about the joke. It's called "empathy" and I am sure a light bulb would come on. At least I hope it would.

[KoKo]

120. Two words for you: predator drones. You will never see it coming. You think I'm joking?"

It sounded exactly like something Chimpy would have said.

[CrispyQ]

36. I agree with you completely.

It was every bit in bad taste as Bush's 'joke' about WMD. There is nothing funny about war & killing people.

[ShortnFiery]

37. Agreed. Drone Summary Executions Subvert The Rule of Law ... even Military Law. ...

It's VILE to EITHER conduct and joke about such criminal acts. :thumbsdown:

http://yorick.infinitejest.org:81/1/img/card-predator_yemen.jpg

[jberryhill]

71. So does Dad getting his shotgun...

It was a caricature of the armed father taking offense at liberties taken with his daughters. That's all it was.

[ShortnFiery]

89. It was VILE. Drone Summary Executions are IMMORAL and ILLEGAL. eom

[jberryhill]

99. Yeah, You've Convinced Me That Obama Totally Sucks

How could I have been so blind.

[WonderGrunion]

127. I'll be sure to send flowers to the Yemeni families

All better now?

Since when have there been kangaroos in Yemen?

[treestar]

39. There was no way to get through that dinner without someone on DU being

offended.

[RichGirl]

41. Every single person has had tragic events in their lives....

...that could be triggered by words.

We hear Bill Maher and others make jokes about Catholic priests all the time. Doesn't this effect anyone who has been molested as a child. We hear jokes about Toyotas even though people have been killed by them If comedians thought....I can't say this, someone out there may be effected by it...then there would be no comedy and that would be a tragedy.

The fact is, the more your buttons are pushed the weaker they become and as a result you are a happier, healthier person who is not controlled by words.

[Enrique]

42. I wonder if the Nobel Peace Prize Committee heard the joke

not to mention the Jonas Brothers Fan Club.

[NutmegYankee]

43. I thought it was funny, but then again, I like black comedy.

AKA dark humor.

[Name removed]

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[SpartanDem]

44. So would it be ok if he mentioned some other piece of weaponry?

[elocs]

52. Why is any weaponry needed to be mentioned? The Obama girls are 11 & 8.

The youngest Jonas brother will be 18 this year. Who would even think for a moment they would be remotely interested in girls 11 and 8?

[msanthrope]

46. Lighten up, Francis! n/t

[flamingdem]

47. I think that the whole drone policy should be reviewed

because of the collateral damage.

I support Obama 99% but wish he didn't go there with a joke.

[harun]

57. Agree. End the video game war mentality.

[polichick]

125. +1

[NYC Liberal]

67. No jokes should ever be made when a war is going on. NEVER! People are DYING!!!

Wait, that means we can never, ever make any jokes because people are always dying somewhere in the world.

[rug]

69. I agree, except when it's the guy ordering the hits.

[noamnety]

72. That's not the issue at all.

The question is whether or not it's offensive for the Commander in Chief - you know, the one calling the shots to use predator drones to kill people - to be joking about using the predator drones to kill innocent civilians, knowing that civilian deaths have already resulted from his orders to use them.

[CrispyQ]

78. Thank you for the excellent summary of why this 'joke' was offensive & completely inappropriate.

I wonder, how many who are justifying this joke as simply "black humor" or "gallows humor," were outraged when Bush made his WMD joke? I'm saddened at the "It's ok when our guy does it" mentality of so many on DU.

[NYC Liberal]

81. Well, we'll just have to see how much ~outrage~ there is then.

Or how many people are ~actually~ offended.

[noamnety]

83. Oh I don't expect much outrage at all.

Just as I didn't expect much outrage when he had the homophobic bigot give a major speech on his behalf.
Just as I didn't expect much outrage when he decided that although DADT was "wrong" we should still keep the bigoted policy.
Just as I didn't expect much outrage when he selected a bunch of neoliberal economic advisors.
Just as I didn't expect much outrage when he decided to expand the attacks in afghanistan.
Just as I didn't expect much outrage when he decided offshore drilling was a good thing and we should do more of it.
Just as I didn't expect much outrage when he decided discrimination against women was an acceptable part of the health insurance bill.
Just as I didn't expect much outrage when he gave the bailout to wall street.

I get that people here are happy with whatever he does. He's got a D after his name and that's the important thing.

[Drunken Irishman]

84. Perfectly acceptable. It was the Jonas Brothers he was talking about...

They're worse than those terrorists the drones are supposed to take out.

[Seneca]

105. The Jonas Brothers are not innocent civilians

Therefore, the analogy does not hold.

[tekisui]

88. I find it in disgusting taste for him to joke about killings that he orders.

Not the same as whatever you are shouting.

[SpartanDem]

90. You realize that the joke wasn't about the war itself

[tekisui]

92. Yeah, I realize it was about his preferred weapon.

Which has been used more by him than any other President in just his first year and a half. The weapon that kill civilians 2-1 over militants. A weapon use that has been called in front of Congress and had the constitutionality questioned.

It disgusts me that he thinks his pet weapon is an acceptable subject of a joke.

[SpartanDem]

97. So do you find jokes about Catholic priest distasteful?

[noamnety]

104. If the pope was making them, I suspect we'd all find it reprehensible

given that he was in a position to enable the abuses.

[Lord Helmet]

111. At first I thought you just don't have a sense of humor

put calling predator drones his 'pet weapon' is hilarious.

[NYC Liberal]

98. Everything he does as president affects someone, somehow

directly or indirectly.

So he shouldn't be telling any jokes in public or private until he leaves office.

[tekisui]

106. How about the ones that involve his ordering a killing that more often

than not, kills civilians--he not tell.

I am not talking about all of the potential jokes he could tell. You are. I am talking about the poor taste of this joke.

[cyndensco]

75. I had a similar reaction when hearing his predator drone joke.

IMO, it was not funny and bordered on bad taste.

Full disclosure: I remain an Obama supporter.

[troubledamerican]

100. I, too, thought it was undignified & beneath him.

[Hippo_Tron]

76. Out of curiosity are you particularly upset because he specifically mentioned predator drones?

A similar joke was made on the West Wing when Charlie wants to date President Bartlet's daughter. Bartlet gently reminds him to remember that "The 82nd airborne works for me". If the President had said that to the Jonas brothers instead of mentioning predator drones, would the joke have offended you less? And if so what is it about predator drones in particular that offends you?

[elocs]

77. Out of curiosity, why is it appropriate for the President to make a joke

about his 11 & 8 year old daughters and the Jonas brothers, the youngest who is 18 that they may try something? That whole set up was silly, but it certainly could have had a punchline that didn't involve weapons that are designed to kill people who don't see it coming.

As far as the West Wing tv series goes, I know the difference between that and real life.

If Bush had made the same joke about his daughters, would DU have found it as equally funny? Would Obama had made the same joke had he been in Kabul?

[Hippo_Tron]

86. I'm legitimately curious if you think predator drones are particularly offensive

Predator drones are just one of many weapons that we use to kill people during a war and often that involves killing civilians by accident. If you think they are particularly offensive, I'm curious as to why. If Obama had replaced predator drones with anything else, would the joke have been less offensive?

[elocs]

95. The joke could have been made without making reference to any weapons at all.

The entire joke was stupid, based upon the premise that the Jonas brothers, the youngest which is 17, would try anything with his 11 & 8 year old daughters.

[tekisui]

87. Holy fuck! I didn't watch it. He made a drone strike joke?

That is fucking low.

[elocs]

96. Yes:

“The Jonas Brothers are here! … Sasha and Malia are huge fans but boys don’t get any ideas. I have two words for you: Predator Drones. You’ll never see it coming.”

[katandmoon]

101. K&R I totally agree, some things are not jokeworthy. The insenstivity is astounding.

[BlooInBloo]

102. gasp. Father of 2 daughters makes joke about boys staying away from his girls. ohnoes.

[Sherman A1]

103. +1, Agreed & Well Said!

Me thinks some posting above are not the Father of Daughters...

[harkadog]

108. The girls are 11 and 8 and the Jonas brothers are adults.

The joke' is a little weird I think.

[Colobo]

107. Some people just love to get offended.

[elocs]

112. So, if I am offended by this one comment that means I "love to be offended"?

A better question would be why are many so defensive here about any criticism of Obama?

In my OP I wrote that my "heart sank" when I heard that comment. My heart did not sink when I heard something I found offensive by Bush or by Palin, but it did with Obama, a man I admire and support.

I don't understand the leap of how just because you are hurt or disappointed by what somebody says means that you dislike them or do not otherwise support them.

[AuntPatsy]

109. As much as I hate threads looking for ways to heap on Obama, I have to agree, it honestly did remind

me of that stupid wheres the md bs...not funny, not at all when real lives have faced and will face death in the future from this pathetic man mad killer...like we need more of them, other than that, he did well...I would assume though that he had little time to read the fulll script before the performance or I would have to believe he would have cut that one out.

[akbacchus_BC]

113. Personally, I found it funny and the President was using humor as a

dad protecting his girls, and it was a joke. He didn't say he is going to shoot the guys who turn up to date his daughters. The Jonas Brothers performed at the White House shortly after President Obama got elected, if my memory serves me right!

I find your outrage very outrageous. When President Bush was looking for WMDs that was sick considering the huge casualty to the American soldiers and the civilians who died and people at the dinner laughed, that was very sick.

Dunno what to tell you, perhaps you should consider suing the President for making you outraged!

[elocs]

114. If it is someone who I don't like or respect I am not disappointed by something they say

with which I do not agree. If it were Bush or Palin who made the same comment about predator drones I would not say that my "heart sank" when I heard it. Actually I would not have been surprised at all.

But I do like and respect President Obama. I voted for him, twice. I will vote for him again in 2012. I stood in line for hours to see him speak in my city. So my heart did sink to hear those words and I was disappointed.

Words have meanings and Obama is a man who knows how to use words, being both articulate and eloquent. Everybody misspeaks, but the predator drone line was not an off the cuff comment. It was a line that was written and likely was rehearsed and my disappointment was that at no time then did anyone think that maybe it was not the best way to make a joke.

Although I was disappointed by the line and my heart did sink to hear it I suppose I was offended, but I did not use that word in my OP because I think that really overstates how I felt. It was people here who used the tag that I was "offended", telling me I should lighten up and not be so sensitive.

So I experienced the not unusual DU labeling and tarring with a broad brush.
The implication was that I had no right to feel the way I did, that I was overly sensitive, or that I was among those who are constantly critical of Obama. It is easier to counter what somebody says when you simply disparage
and make light of their words, opinions, or feelings.

In the end I am disappointed in DU. Disappointed but not surprised. Not surprised that there are those who cannot bring themselves even to admit somebody might have a point even if they do not agree because too many cannot abide any idea or opinion that does not line up with their own, or the majority. I guess that throwing out what are considered clever one liners is easier than considered thought.

[tk2kewl]

115. Agreed. So not funny.

:puke:

[spoony]

116. Agreed. That's disgusting.

And it has nothing to do with dark humour, people. A comedian telling a joke about something they had nothing to do with is one thing, someone joking about the method they used to really kill people is quite another. And the fact that it wasn't off the cuff, that it was actually written and perhaps rewritten and a bunch of people including Obama thought nothing of it, that's the worst part.

[KoKo]

121. ....written by a Presidential Joke Writer and Delivered by our Dem President

Quite Disgusting...worthy of BUSH WORLD!

[tomm2thumbs]

124. Agreed - we have to be equally critical when done by either party

this would have been pounced on if said by Bush or Cheney or anyone on the GOP roster - it is right that it is called out when joked about - period.

[PBS Poll-435]

119. I am going on record...

This is the craziest fucking thread I have seen this year.

:wow:

[KoKo]

122. You've not been around DU much this year then!

:D

[Sky Masterson]

126. I'm going on record as saying that this is the coolest thread ever!

I haven't had this much fun since all of the circumcision threads .:rofl:
I hope this thread never dies. :D

[AtomicKitten]

123. The joke was about a protective father and in that regard it was funny. nt

[madmax]

129. I understand your pain and hurt

but, sometimes we just have to let it slide.

The President doesn't write the bullshit for this venue. The comedy writers may be a insensitive and let's face it, I'm sure Obama had more important things to worry about than nuances of jokes and how they may be taken by those of us more sensitive.

Please be kind - we're all in this shit mess together. Is there anyone else, right now in a position to even 'try' to get our collective nuts out of the fire.

Compared to *bush - he's 1000% better even with his faults.

I'm angry and scared too. :hug:

[woo me with science]

131. NO JOKES!

NOT EVEN AGE-OLD PROTECTIVE FATHER JOKES! I MEAN IT!

Sheesh.