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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:18 PM
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Elena Kagan Will Be Obama's Supreme Court Pick: Mike Allen
President Obama is expected to nominate Solicitor General and former Harvard Law dean Elena Kagan to the Supreme Court on Monday, Mike Allen reports.

Kagan has long considered the frontrunner to replace retiring Justice John Paul Stevens, even as questions have emerged about the limited public record of her legal opinions and how she compares ideologically to Stevens, a Gerald Ford appointee who has nonetheless been the high court's flagship liberal justice for decades. President Obama seems to have few doubts, however, Allen reports.

"The pick isn't official, but top White House aides will be shocked if it's otherwise," Allen says. "Kagan's relative youth (50) is a huge asset for the lifetime post. And President Obama considers her to be a persuasive, fearless advocate who would serve as an intellectual counterweight to Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Scalia, and could lure swing Justice Kennedy into some coalitions."

The White House may leak the news as early as this weekend, according to Allen.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/07/elena-kagan-will-be-obama_n_567456.html
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:30 PM
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1. "swing Justice Kennedy" HA! now that's funny. This prick is an integral part of
the 5 crazies.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 07:04 PM
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26. wrong reply. n/t
Edited on Fri May-07-10 07:05 PM by Hutzpa
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:35 PM
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2. I have no faith in the media's insider knowledge .







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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:40 PM
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3. Terrible mistake, if true. She supported crap like indefinite detention.
No way is she a good choice. Pick someone else.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:41 PM
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4. I agree...but I think she's from Chicago...and that would kind of seal
the deal for her.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:46 PM
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5. Fuck Chicago
They were useless after Terry Kath died.

Seriously though...... why the FUCK does everybody have to be either "from Chicago" or "from Harvard" or both?

It's as bad as the Bush Crime Family appointing a bunch of idiots "from Texas".

The Supreme Court is supposed to represent the entire country. Has there EVER been a justice from the West Coast?
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:54 PM
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7. Earl Warren comes to mind.
As a West coast justice, of quite some consequence you might say.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:01 PM
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9. Yeah, he was alright
..despite that horrible travesty of justice "commission" that bore his name.

But here's the further irony.... Warren (like Stevens) was a Republican, and appointed by a Republican president (Eisenhower, in this case).

Why the Hell can't a "Democratic" president appoint someone from the LEFT Coast? The only name I've even heard mentioned this time around is Pamela Karlan, who is currently located at Stanford, but she's not even a West Coast Native (Virginia, I think). But she has "teh gay" so they took her off the list anyway :evilfrown:
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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:48 PM
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6. Yeah, but Diane Wood teaches at University of Chicago
Edited on Fri May-07-10 12:49 PM by Hawaii Hiker
where Obama did as well in the late 1990's...

Diane Wood would be such a better choice than Elena Kagan, :banghead:

For a Democratic president who has 59 Dems. in the senate, the pick of Kagan is absolutely baffling...
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:21 PM
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13. While the strategy of picking someone with very little public statements about...
judicial philosophy may make for an easier confirmation, it seems to be unnecessarily dangerous to install an unknown quantity.

Everyone knows how the gang of four (Roberts,Thomas, Scalia, Alito) will vote on any given issue.

We need someone who will clearly side against them every time.
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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 02:33 PM
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20. That's one thing that's been confusing to me during this process
when President Obama (and his staff) talk about finding a nominee who can persuade the other justices...

Like you said, there is NO doubt where (Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, & Ailito) are going to vote on an abortion case, or a case that might involve a disputed election, etc...There is NO WAY any Obama appointment is going to persude these 4, ain't happening...

That's why, IMO, he should just pick a solid liberal (Karlan, Koh, Wood) and give progrssives a reliable vote for 25 years or so....Forget about the powers of persuasion, because they will do little good against the aforementioned 4 conservative justices...
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 02:45 PM
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21. Very true.
Edited on Fri May-07-10 02:46 PM by MilesColtrane
Kagan couldn't convince the Fascist Bloc when she argued the Citizens United case before them.

Just because she dons a robe and sits on the same bench with them won't make them hold hands and sing Kumbaya with her.
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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:55 PM
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28. I'm rooting for Koh
It is an unusual pick and will be the first Asian American as well as a Korean. Over here in Korea it will be huge news if it happens.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:50 PM
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18. I'm just relieved he's not appointing Orrin Hatch.
Just think how postpartisn/bipartisan that would be.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 12:59 PM
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8. I'm a Granholm fan myself. I'd like to see her seriously considered..n/t
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:06 PM
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10. The more I read about her, the more wary I am of her possible appointment.
Is it too much to ask for a real, dyed-in-the-wool liberal justice to replace Stevens?

How about somebody who will bring balance to the court, and who believes in checking this out of control, Unitary Executive bullshit that was advanced by the Cheney administration?

Some of us don't think the President should be able to start illegal wars, torture, wiretap citizens, or indefinitely detain them.

Yes, Mr. Constitutional Scholar in the Oval Office, I'm talking to you.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:48 PM
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17. Is it too much to ask for a real, dyed-in-the-wool liberal justice?
Yes.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:08 PM
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11. I'm all for another woman, but a TRUE BLUE LIBERAL PLEASE!
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:17 PM
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12. Would this not mean the court would likely be moved significantly to the right?
:scared:
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:32 PM
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15. I don't think anybody who doesn't personally know her could give you a definitive answer to that.
She's never been a judge before and her job for the past year has been to defend the administration's interest in Supreme Court cases.

I'd bet often times a lawyer doesn't personally agree with the position he or she is paid to advocate.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:47 PM
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16. Good points!
:-)
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:31 PM
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14. 'intellectual counterweight to Chief Justice Roberts and Justice Scalia'
Edited on Fri May-07-10 01:35 PM by onehandle
As opposed to Justice Thomas who is more of an intellectual paperweight.

I rarely respond to my own posts, but the joke just occurred to me and the editing period is over.



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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 01:56 PM
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19. Excellent.
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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 03:09 PM
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22. I'm tired of Obama making the safe pick for everything. All of the conservative activist on the
court. We need a real liberal not this woman.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 03:14 PM
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23. Me too - this prez has been given an amazing opportunity but refuses to take it. nt
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LeftyAndProud60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 07:01 PM
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25. I didn't mind Sotomayor becuz I do believe she's liberal, she's just not as open w/ her views as the
conservatives are. Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, and the others are very open about their views. It seems like liberals have to pretend to be conservative to get appointed.

It also bothered me hearing stories that Obama had to be talked out of voting for Roberts. WTF?
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 04:08 PM
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24. Very Blah pick. A chance to make a huge mark on the court
Edited on Fri May-07-10 04:09 PM by Thrill
and he picks Kagan. Very disappointed. Huge majority in the Senate and he won't pick a strong young liberal. This is a very weak and disappointing pick if true. I don't see how Axelrod can say what he said last week and Kagan be the pick. Jeesh
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 07:06 PM
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27. Please nooooooooooo.
Damn O, c'mon dude.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 02:14 AM
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29. Um, OK, but why in a thread about Kagan do you give us a pic of Elizabeth Warren?
Kinda confusing. :shrug:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 08:03 AM
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31. onehandle always has that pic in posts, no?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 03:47 AM
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30. So now Politico does Pres. Obama's announcements?
That's new, no? :shrug:
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