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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:39 PM
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Obama Court pick imminent, Kagan called favorite
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama will announce his nominee for the U.S. Supreme Court very soon, White House officials said Friday, as court watchers said Solicitor General Elena Kagan is most likely to be the pick.

Although there is no guarantee she is the nominee, Kagan could be expected to pass fairly smoothly through the confirmation process, experts say.

Administration officials are eager to avoid a bitter battle over the court pick ahead of congressional elections in November, where Obama's fellow Democrats will be fighting to keep their majorities in Congress.

Considered one of the more moderate choices on Obama's short list of potential court nominees, Kagan has been through one Senate confirmation already -- she was confirmed last year for her current position.

Obama's announcement of his selection to replace retiring liberal Justice John Paul Stevens could come "at any moment," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said Friday. Most observers expect an announcement Monday or Tuesday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100508/pl_nm/us_usa_court

"Administration officials are eager to avoid a bitter battle over the court pick ahead of congressional elections in November, where Obama's fellow Democrats will be fighting to keep their majorities in Congress."

You shouldn't be making a Supreme Court Pick based on this. Unreal
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:44 PM
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1. I hope he punks the news media and picks someone who is not on that list
Someone whose name has not been leaked or speculated upon by the pissants in the media.

Just to punk the media.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:51 PM
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2. Betty White for Supreme Court!
Sure, she couldn't serve as long, but it would be some of the best Oral Arguments EVER.

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lordcommander Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:54 PM
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3. And shes hosting SNL tomorrow! nt
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:57 PM
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4. Betty White's all right..
She said.."palin is a crazy bitch."

Straight up.
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:35 PM
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16. That caption is hillarious.
I love Betty White. I hope she kills tomorrow. SNL is in desperate need of help.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:04 PM
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5. Don't do it, Obama. Don't you dare
Edited on Fri May-07-10 10:06 PM by LittleBlue
choose a Goldman Sachs, pro-executive-authority psycho for the Supreme Court. You cannot shit on your base with that half-assed healthcare bill, the watered-down bank bill, and now this. It's too much.

Seriously, I'm done if he does this. Even that disgusting Palin won't get me out to vote.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:09 PM
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:18 PM
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9. No, that's utter bullshit and you know it
Edited on Fri May-07-10 10:19 PM by LittleBlue
I'm still one of those hold-my-nose-for-the-Supreme-Court people. Still! Even after the bank bullshit, the healthcare bullshit, the offshore drilling bullshit, the Arne Duncan bullshit, and the war bullshit.

Even after all that bullshit, I can still hold my nose. I'll still vote for him! Sorry, I cannot take even more bullshit by giving Ms. Goldman Sachs a seat on the SC, no fucking way. This is the woman who supports indefinite detention.

You are seriously deluded if you think this isn't a make-or-break reason to support him. It was practically one of the last ones.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:23 PM
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10. The Goldman Sachs claim is
Edited on Fri May-07-10 10:23 PM by ProSense
utter bullshit.

Kagan is the current Solicitor General and is highly qualified for the SCOTUS.

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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:27 PM
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11. No, she is not
Edited on Fri May-07-10 10:27 PM by LittleBlue
Your own link shows that she was paid by Goldman. Goldman, the same one implicated in numerous frauds, shady dealings, and short-selling against working-class people.

Nope, not buying it. She's for indefinite detention, that's enough, but this Goldman bullshit is too much. You can't explain it away.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:27 PM
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12. That's nonsense. n/t
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:29 PM
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13. Your argument is nonsense. You respond to my accusation that she worked for Goldman
by posting an article that says indeed she was paid $10k by Goldman.

You can't be serious. Only a complete shill would excuse that type of behavior, let alone the indefinite detention bullshit.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:37 PM
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18. It's a non-issue.
She made the disclosure last year, and was confirmed. She was on an research advisory panel. Trying to make a big deal out of this is utterly ridiculous.

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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:41 PM
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19. So because she made the disclosure that she was paid $10k by Goldman, it's okay?
You can't be serious.

On top of her complete wrongness on executive authority, you cannot seriously ignore all this stuff.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:46 PM
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21. Yes, I can be serious, and trying to make the payment an issue is silly. n/t
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:49 PM
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23. Take a look at this. It goes beyond taking money from Goldman.
Edited on Fri May-07-10 10:51 PM by LittleBlue
"Harvard Law Dean Elena Kagan, President Obama's choice to represent his administration before the Supreme Court, told a key Republican senator Tuesday that she believed the government could hold suspected terrorists without trial as war prisoners...

During the Bush administration, the solicitor general argued for the White House's war-on-terrorism policies, including the president's decision to imprison foreign fighters and alleged terrorists at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
"

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/11/nation/na-solicitor-general11

Do not let this dangerous person anywhere near the high court.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:55 PM
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24. What?
You do realize the second statement below doesn't refer to Kagan, don't you?

"If confirmed as U.S. solicitor general, Kagan, 48, will defend the administration's legal policy in the courts.

During the Bush administration, the solicitor general argued for the White House's war-on-terrorism policies, including the president's decision to imprison foreign fighters and alleged terrorists at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.


Anyway, did you miss this:

She echoed comments by Atty. Gen. Eric H. Holder Jr. during his confirmation hearing last month. Both agreed that the United States was at war with Al Qaeda and suggested the law of war allows the government to capture and hold alleged terrorists without charges.


Kagan's detractors are simply hyping simplistic distortions.

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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:14 PM
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26. You really are excusing her support of indefinite detention, aren't you?
Really? Seriously? The issue on which we all slammed Bush, you're now robotically excusing in a potential Supreme Court pick?

Seriously?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:15 PM
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27. Well, it's apparent you don't even understand what you're posting. n/t
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:16 PM
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28. You can't answer the question, because the answer is too frightening.
Edited on Fri May-07-10 11:17 PM by LittleBlue
Yes, you do excuse this.

Pathetic.

This is from the guy who defended her taking money from Goldman by posting a link that said she took money from Goldman. :crazy:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:20 PM
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29. Kagan is a fine choice.
If she is Obama's choice, she will be confirmed.

The nonsense about Goldman Sachs and her SG confirmation statement on terrorist detention, which echoed Holder's, is not going to be a factor.

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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:26 PM
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31. Holder matters less, he's an AG. He doesn't interpret the law for a lifetime appointment.
Edited on Fri May-07-10 11:27 PM by LittleBlue
SC justices interpret the law.

You would be fine with someone like Kagan, who finds Bush detention policies peachy? When there are other candidates who are qualified and don't:

1) Take money from Goldman and
2) Disagree with Bush-era detention policies?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:36 PM
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:10 PM
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7. It's like Derby weekend with fewer hats! NT
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:15 PM
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8. Kagan would be a good choice
but we'll find out soon enough.



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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:31 PM
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14. If you want the President to act as an absolute monarch; yes, Kagan would be a good choice
Have any President usurp any powers he or she sees fit, and order the assassination of any American under any pretext. We call that tyranny!

Kagan shares Cheney and Bush's views of an unitary Presidency.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:35 PM
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15. You're right. It's practically an insult to anyone with two working brain cells
Edited on Fri May-07-10 10:35 PM by LittleBlue
A nominee like her is a statement to all supporters, "Hey, I know you guys are gullible, but I'm so confident y'all are complete fucking yobs that I'll throw a former Goldman employee into the Supreme Court. HA! TAKE THAT YOU MORONS!"

He had better not nominate her.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:41 PM
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20. "Kagan shares Cheney and Bush's views of an unitary Presidency." Don't be ridiculous. n/t
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:48 PM
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22. Don't be ridiculous, huh? Take a look at this.
"Harvard Law Dean Elena Kagan, President Obama's choice to represent his administration before the Supreme Court, told a key Republican senator Tuesday that she believed the government could hold suspected terrorists without trial as war prisoners."

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/11/nation/na-solicitor-general11
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:00 PM
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25. O please don't nominate anybody who would make Republicans mad.
Why not just go ahead and let them pick?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 11:23 PM
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30. lol - altho it's really not funny!
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