Obama is not a war monger

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Cheney and Bush, and all their friends profited from war. It was their driving force, along with a strong need
to rule the world.

Obama is not

I say, give him the benefit of the doubt. I am willing to trust in him, given his hatred of war. I believe he knows something that is making him think that it is important and mandatory that we dismantle forces that could cause another 9-11. Otherwise, why in the world would he be pushing this? He knows what a mess Iraq was and still is. He has nothing to gain by doing this except criticism. He must know we must do this.

I hate war as much as anyone. But I am willing to believe in him.

[polichick]

1. "his hatred of war"??? nt

[ProSense]

4. You think he loves war? n/t

[polichick]

8. Wouldn't know - haven't heard him say he hates or loves war. nt

[ProSense]

14. You don't know what you think?

I asked you what you think?

[polichick]

15. From his campaign rhetoric and his decisions, I'd say he's okay with it. nt

[stray cat]

34. Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Payne, George Washington, Bill Clinton, Jack Kennedy

all war mongers just to name a few

[polichick]

35. Did any of them say they hated war? nt

[Teaser]

2. he is a war monger and I hate him for ever and ever

.

[HopeOverFear]

6. you forgot the sarcasm smiley

[Cha]

10. Really?

[Teaser]

13. the president is not being sarcastic when he mongers war

he really means it and is evil and sucks.

[goldcanyonaz]

17. Were your fingers in your ears during his campaign speeches?

[Teaser]

25. Obama's fingers are around a trigger that will kill us all.

He will go down in history with the likes of Pol Pot, Idi Amin, and Imelda Marcos.

[goldcanyonaz]

26. You need to share whatever you are smoking.

[jgraz]

30. Once again: how does promising to do the wrong thing make him a better president?

Would you have rather all the anti-war people didn't vote for him?

[goldcanyonaz]

3. Hope and Change is all I heard during the election. lalalala *covers ears* lalalala

[TwilightGardener]

16. Must kill you that Hillary wants the extra troops too. LOL.

[jgraz]

21. Once Kucinich dropped out, we had no anti-war candidates

And "better than Hillary" is about as weak as "better than Bush". I didn't work my ass of for Obama so he could agree with Bush and Hillary.

[goldcanyonaz]

23. Nope, not really. I supported her during the primaries.

Of course you were being obtuse but whatever.

[eleny]

5. Going to go and try to enlist tomorrow morning?

No excuses. Just get over to your nearest recruiting office as soon as possible and offer your own life as easy as you spend the lives of others.

[polichick]

11. That's what everyone making excuses for this escalation should do. nt

[TwilightGardener]

7. Recommend, I have no reason to believe he's doing this for any other motives

than national interests.

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[jgraz]

20. Once again, we can't get through a single pro-Obama post without one of these group attacks

Tell me, what do you hope to achieve with your petulant whining? More whining?

[Cha]

27. Look who's talking.

[jgraz]

29. Yes, let's look.

When have I opened up an unsolicited attack on a group of DUers just because someone posted something I agree with? Ever?

What you're doing is extremely bad form and serves no purpose other than to fan the flames. Do you just enjoy the conflict? Is that it?

[tandot]

12. K & R

[jgraz]

18. How do you figure Obama is not profiting from war?

Taking the easy way out insulates him from "weak on defense" charges in 2012. I would count possible re-election as President a "profit".

[butterfly77]

19. K&R..

[oneplanet]

22. No he is not, he is a peacemaker.

He is diametrically opposed to the previous administrations vision of the world. What many do not understand is that the road to peace is not an easy one.

[polichick]

32. "There is no way to peace - peace is the way." quote attributed to...

...more than one historical figures.

[harkadog]

24. Where is this "hatred of war" coming from?

He says Afghanistan is a just war. Where has he said he hates war?

[rollingrock]

28. Obama voted for all Iraq war funding bills

while he was in the Senate. he also said he was going to escalate the war in Afghanistan, and is about to send another 30,000 troops to fight there.

by definition, that makes him a warmonger.


edit: in addition, he is opposed to signing the treaty to ban land mines.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

31. the situation is not just America's other countries are in this too

how many countries are involved in Afghanistan with more countries coming in.

[nosmokes]

33. If it looks like a duck, walks like, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck,

flies like a duck, eats like a duck,waddles like a duck, preens like a duck, is going to the Rose Bowl like an Oregon Duck, shits like a duck, dives like a duck and sends thirty thousand plus more troops to a war that is not in America's best interest any longer and hasn't been for ages like a war mongering (even if peace prize winning)duck, I'm inclined to call it a duck.

[Kitsune]

36. He may not be a war monger, but he is strangely devoted to making a bad situation worse.

Regardless of whatever intelligence he has access to that we presumably don't, putting more troops on the ground in Afghanistan is not going to speed up anything about the occupation. It's like throwing water on a grease fire. No details regarding operational strength of Al-Qaeda (if any) or the Taliban (which is less an organized force and more a cultural movement) are going to change the big-picture problem that the Afghan people see Americans as an occupying force that is not fighting on their behalf, and after 8 years I doubt that anything we can do will change that, least of all throwing more troops at their country.

I do not believe this war will be over in 3 years, and I think escalating it is exactly the wrong thing to do, especially given the state of the economy.

But then, Obama hasn't been doing a very good job on the domestic front either. I've got a host of issues with his bizarre and endless conservative trend on so many topics.