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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:29 PM
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THIS is what an intelligent President looks...
...like. I am VERY proud of President Obama tonight.:patriot:
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:32 PM
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1. me too.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:32 PM
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2. He started a bit too conservative for my taste, but the speech got progressively
more liberal. He did a good job.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:33 PM
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4. For me he's still talking. n/t
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:33 PM
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3. I'm proud too...
He didn't start this war...
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:42 PM
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10. But he WILL end it. n/t
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:33 PM
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64. Yes, I believe he will....
but he first has to clean up the mess that was left by the previous administration.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:19 PM
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69. The mess in the middle east, the mess with our allies...
...the mess of the economy, the mess in education...:) Obama is one busy guy. Thank goodness we have him as President.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:34 PM
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5. Odd that such an "intelligent " president can justify a Bush era escalation to win policy.
I didn't support the Bush troop surge and i won't support this one. A change of salesman doesn't make the product any better. I would have been proud if we were headed toward peace. And if this were a troop withdrawal and not an escalation.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:45 PM
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12. Hi, saracat...
... :hi: Did you ever see any of Kerry's speeches on diplomacy in the Middle East?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:56 PM
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17. Hey Yvonne! Sure did.
:hi:
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:34 PM
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35. Some liberals make a fetish of deliberation.
So much so that they evidently think any decision is right if it's been agonized over long enough. It's a regrettable psychological flaw.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:35 PM
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6. ME TOO!
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:39 PM
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7. I second that emotion! n/t
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:39 PM
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8. Bush could have given that speech.
No substance. Pure propaganda.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:42 PM
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11. I think I'm starting to hate the left wing as much as I hate the right. n/t
n/t
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khal02 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:59 PM
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19. Me too
Both are unyielding, unreasonable, and in most cases wrong. If DU and freerepublic are both mad about opposite sides of the same thing, it's probably the right decision.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:26 PM
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73. I guess with 16 posts you can still get out unscathed n/t
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Nancy Waterman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:03 PM
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22. Me too.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:25 PM
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26. +100000
NT
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:46 PM
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29. sad to say.
yep.
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:58 PM
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37. Those in the fringe of our party are no better
than right wing teabaggers.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:46 PM
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67. making up lies to back up their assertions
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Lilyeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:32 PM
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41. Yup!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:39 PM
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43. I'm not even on the left. I'm an independent, moderate voter.
Edited on Tue Dec-01-09 11:40 PM by girl gone mad
Liberal in some areas, conservative in others, pretty mainstream overall.

The speech tonight contained no real substance, just like all of the posts supporting the speech in this thread.

Empty. Pointless. Propaganda.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:08 AM
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47. This should be a top post....
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:09 AM
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48. +1!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:32 AM
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53. Hahahahahaha
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:39 AM
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54. +10000000
..
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Tigermoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:47 AM
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56. I hate cynicism, wherever it is found.
I was as guilty of it as most as a younger man, but I've grown up and understand the complexities of living in the real world.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:55 AM
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58. I have been hating them both for years..
The hard left and hard right are effectively destroying America from both ends of the spectrum.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:20 PM
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70. Hi, DC Bob...
...it's been a while... :hi:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 08:49 PM
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79. Hi YvonneCa..
I have been laying low for several months hoping DU would become less combative. Seems to have gotten worse actually.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:24 PM
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80. I know. But we need more sane...
...and civil voices here. ;)
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:57 AM
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59. Thanks for providing me with an ignore list.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:27 PM
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74. Yes it was so easy, I love weeding out the warhawks on DU n/t
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 11:48 AM
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60. Yep
me too!

turned off David Sirota today - he's sounding mean.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 11:58 AM
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61. + 1 zillion!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:55 PM
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15. Bull! Bush would never have knocked down the criticisms one by one. Nor would he have
Edited on Tue Dec-01-09 08:59 PM by jenmito
said we need to leave Afghanistan by a certain time. Nor would he have said he knows the history of the area (because he doesn't) and that he won't repeat it. Nor would he have said we need to keep allies around the world. Nor would we have said we need to keep our values and that's why he's against torture and for closing Gitmo. Nor would he have said, "Right makes might." BUSH would've said, "Might makes right."
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:24 PM
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25. GREAT post. Thanks, n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:30 PM
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28. Thanks, Yvonne...
good thread. :hi:
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:19 PM
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39. Nail, meet head. :-)
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:00 PM
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62. Yep
Bush wouldn't said something stupid like bring it on.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:55 PM
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16. No he couldn't
Too many big words. It contained accurate statements of ideas and ideals in conflict, Bush never saw a conflicting idea worthy of a moment's notice. There is no evidence that Bush ever thought this deeply on anything. If he had, Iraq would never started.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:06 PM
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33. STELLAR comment. Thank you! n/t
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:53 AM
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50. I do what I can
and always attempt to not do what I can't.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:22 PM
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71. Together, we can...
...do more. ;)
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:45 PM
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66. OMG!
:spray: :rofl:
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:28 PM
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76. I think Bush did give that speech in 2002 in the same venue n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:40 PM
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9. Thank you, Yvonne!
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:48 PM
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13. Hi there...
... :hi: You are welcome. Didn't he do a great job? He talked UNITY. :patriot:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:54 PM
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14. Yeah, he talked unity..
but the extemes have their ears plugs inserted.

His heart is heavy and he's doing the very best he can.:patriot:
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:00 PM
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20. He's doing fine I don't agree with...
Edited on Tue Dec-01-09 09:01 PM by YvonneCa
...him on every policy (think 'education' :) ) but I completely support him as President. The country is lucky to have him.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:11 PM
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24. Yeah, we're very fortunate.
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:58 PM
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18. Me, too
:patriot:
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:02 PM
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21. ...
...:)
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:04 PM
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23. That makes one of us. I'm very disappointed in our intelligent President tonight. eom
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:26 PM
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27. Ditto!
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:48 PM
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30. Me too
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:48 PM
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31. Speech was even better than I expected. NT
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:42 PM
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36. I agree. I loved that he talked about...
...the unity our country needs. Not unity of opinion, but unity as in being one PEOPLE.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:51 PM
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32. Didn't see the speech but saw the text and
am still proud of him. :patriot: However, (hopefully) he and his allies better be prepared for some backlash from the angry peeps out there.

I don't agree with everything Obama does, but hope and wish him the best.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:08 PM
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34. Hi, politicasista...
... :hi:
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:08 PM
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38. Hi Yvonne!
Hope you had a nice Thanksgiving. :hi:
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:02 AM
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44. Thank you! I did, but I overate...
...as usual. :) I hope your Thanksgiving was nice, too.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 06:29 PM
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78. LOL!
Edited on Wed Dec-02-09 06:29 PM by politicasista
I didn't overeat but felt stuffed afterwards. :)

Thanks. Mine was nice too. :hi:
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:38 PM
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42. Damn, that's almost heresy around here. Thanks for saying it! nt
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:05 AM
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45. Frighteningly true...
...and you are very welcome. :)
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:07 AM
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46. My God it's refreshing to see a reply to one of my posts that doesn't involve verbal fisticuffs.
Thank you.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:14 AM
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49. You are welcome. It does get pretty negative...
...around here, sometimes. I once (bravely :) ) suggested a civility forum. It didn't garner very much support. :7
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 01:14 AM
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51. intelligent presidents can do stupid things . . .
Lyndon Johnson was intelligent . . . so were a lot of other presidents who made stupid moves . . . Obama is merely the latest . . .
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:23 PM
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72. The latest, after eight long years...
...of stupid. ;)
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O is 44 Donating Member (740 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 01:29 AM
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52. I was actually nervous for him...
because I knew how weighty this all was. I don't support his decision, but I still support this President.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:28 PM
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75. I appreciate you saying that. I think many of us...
...who support his presidency are 'holding our breath' on this decision. But I also think he is the right person to make the decision, and that's why I voted for him.

If he gets this right, I expect to hear a collective 'sigh of relief.' EXHALE... :patriot:

It's good that so many people are engaged, paying attention, and caring.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 09:56 AM
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55. He looks like Mount Rushmore?
:crazy:
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:15 PM
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63. ...
:7 That's funny! Sorry...I totally forgot about my avatar. I was referring to our President giving his speech.;)
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:49 AM
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57. Smart words, stupid actions
I'm sensing a pattern.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:45 PM
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65. Proud and conforted that the Country is in such capable hands
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watercolors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 02:36 PM
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68. I"m very proud of him, also have a grandson in AF
who called me and he was indeed happy with the presidents decision. He is going to Afganistan early spring, 2nd tour of duty there. He was not happy about it, but now feels this time maybe much will be accomplished.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:30 PM
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77. I have a cousin there...
...now (Army) I've been wondering what his thoughts are. I hope your grandson will come home soon. :hug:
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