Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

"Angry Obama Expected Tomorrow"

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU
 
Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:00 PM
Original message
"Angry Obama Expected Tomorrow"
Angry Obama Expected Tomorrow

President Obama is angry about the oil spill, its magnitude, BP's stalling and tomorrow, he is going to let his frustrations spill out at a late-morning press availability after he meets with senior officials.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/10/05/night-beat-angry-obama-expected-tomorrow/56702


He's probably going to use all kinds of coarse language ... like "extremely displeased" and "deeply disappointed." :scared:


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:01 PM
Response to Original message
1. LOL-that picture! I hope he's steamin' angry! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Well, we need more pics so we can be prepared....
... for what the Wrath of the Obama might look like. These were all taken when various events on Capitol Hill caused him to miss Sports Center ..













Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:17 PM
Response to Original message
3. Angry? I don't think so. EMBARRASSED, well absolutely!!!!!!!!
THe guy comes out in support of off-shore drilling and an industry giant almost immediately fucks up stupendously and catastrophically.

It's enough to make anyone REALLY humiliated about support for domestic production exemplified by off-shore drilling.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. So now Obama should be embarrassed because an
industry giant fucked up catastrophically? Try blaming the industry giant; Obama had absolutely nothing to do with it, so has no reason to be embarrassed. Nice try. :eyes:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 10:40 PM
Response to Reply #5
18. babylonsister, his admin gave them passes on a lot of things that
they should never have gotten. they should have followed all the rules but they were given waivers, etc. he has a hand in this and that might be part of his anger. he didn't want this but the actions of his admin have made it happen as well.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 11:32 PM
Response to Reply #18
19. "but the actions of his admin have made it happen as well." Now its Obama's fault?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 07:23 AM
Response to Reply #19
26. If the buck stops with him, yes. It's the MMS, part of Interior, that allows...
...oil companies to get away with shoddy work and lax regulations. They've even approved new offshore projects since this accident, without environmental assessments.

It's not enough to get "beyond livid" at BP - the president needs to place a permanent ban on more offshore drilling and clean up his MMS - for God's sake, they let rigs fly the flags of places like the Marshall Islands so they can have second-rate standards and keep the Coast Guard from doing inspections.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #26
43. I'm for off shore drilling with stiff regulations. But to blame Obama is ridiculous
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:04 AM
Response to Reply #43
48. The Republicans want to blame Obama for it
when really it was their Cheney
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 12:44 AM
Response to Reply #19
45. part of it, yes. really now, are you so blinded by your affection for
him that you twist what I say? I didn't say it was his fault as in all his fault. I say he had a portion of fault. jeez.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 11:40 AM
Response to Reply #5
37. Obama is responsible for all bad things that happen, everywhere, don't ya know?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 11:58 AM
Response to Reply #37
38. Do you really think that's what I said?
It seems that Project Protect Obama Without Thinking, is really tripping over it's dick.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Aramchek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:14 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. Obama doesn't need us to protect him, his continued success does that
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #40
42. Oh I want some of whatever it is you have. I'll be bummed if it's a genetic mutation
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 01:54 AM
Response to Reply #40
46. I totally agree. He can handle any criticism that's thrown at him, and has said as much himself.
Edited on Sat May-15-10 01:58 AM by ClassWarrior
Which makes it so ironic that his fan club refuses to allow anyone to say boo about him, and instantly dismisses all criticism out of hand.

NGU.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:07 AM
Response to Reply #38
50. Let's be clear here. I'm extremely anti-off shore drilling.
I have said that if I was voting, I would not vote for a single candidate--including Obama who supported this crap.

However, even I know that this is not his fault. Why? Because these wells have been around for a while now. This is not the first one, or the last one and we've had spills before. Some of them were just not in use---for various reasons. Because he gave the go-ahead on wells that already had the bloody go-ahead anyway---and there is this disaster doesn't make him the cause of the problem.

I do think he had the power to shut down all off-shore drilling if he wanted. However, he has always said he wanted to use all avenues of energy available to us and off-shore drilling was one of them. That being said...when these sort of catastrophe's happen we can't go and blame the president since he wasn't in charge of the drilling.

Would you blame the Governor or Mayor of the town where the death of 29 miners happened? Since the mine itself was facing pending investigation for not following regulations---and because those things weren't moving fast enough by the state and eventually national regulation authorities official we would accuse. Why not complain to them since they had to be aware of the mine's problems since it was brought to their attention. No you can't.

Like you can't blame the Presidents who were around when scientist talked, for years, that if there was a strong Hurricane we should expect a Katrina. Just because they didn't have 20/20 hindsight. Yes, it would have been better if they heed the warnings and followed through. However, when years went by without incidence and off-shore drilling has a relatively decent safety rap from what I read---then you can't blame the President for hindsight.

You have to blame BP for not being cautious enough in the process of extracting the oil. I definitely have my issues with Obama's position on Off-shore drilling, like I have it on the "war." However, I'm not about to blame him for this----because there's no way he's logically responsible for this.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. Embarrassed? Really? Did he cause the spill?
Edited on Thu May-13-10 09:32 PM by liberalmuse
Or implement the deregulation that has allowed it to continue? I'm really through with the serial Obama bashers. Most are knee jerk reactionaries who are a little too quick to post every piece of shite that comes out before doing their homework. It's dishonest to boot as I can count on finding out later that the stuff being posted here is simply not true. It's called 'thinking' and not swallowing every piece of bullshit, simply because the person writing it is a liberal. Time to start filling the cellar again.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #6
12. I think the embarassment is in relation to the decision about offshore drilling
It's the timing that is embarassing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 07:20 AM
Response to Reply #6
25. Amen. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 07:54 AM
Response to Reply #6
29. Let me explain it to you in terms you can digest
You invite a person to a party. They insist upon speaking up for and dragging to the party a lout with a bad reputation that no one else wants to be there. The person swears that the lout is no longer a risk, that this is now, that was then.
The lout enters the party, pisses on the rug, gropes the host and beings to sing filthy songs to the children.
Who did the ugly? The lout. But the person who insisted against the will of the majority that the lout was a changed man and a safe party mate does in fact have some responsibility for, if not the actions of the lout, for his own actions in speaking on behalf of that lout and imposing his pal's habits on the rest of the party.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:08 AM
Response to Reply #6
51. Thank you.. I'm adamantly against off-shore drilling, but it's just stupid to blame him for this.
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #3
13. I'd certainly be embarrassed if I'd made the call and my agencies and appointees screwed up
I'd also be a might pissed off at my advisers as well as BP and Halliburton for their negligence in causing this catastrophe.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 05:29 AM
Response to Reply #13
23. Exactly,
I didn't think it was particularly difficult to fathom.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
olegramps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 11:00 AM
Response to Reply #3
33. Here since 1628. I think you got on the wrong boat.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #33
34. Why, because I don't clean my ears with the toilet?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:22 PM
Response to Original message
4. Official WH image from today... Obama in the Oval... Not Happy!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #4
15. be funny if Dwayne Johnson actually came out to make the statement...
.... in Hulk speak. "BP bad! BP very very bad! BP go out window now!"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:30 PM
Response to Original message
7. Hey BP: Remember "the fly"?
You're about to get fucked up.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #7
17. yes and so do all the fly's cousins....
... who have been seeking revenge ever since.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:31 PM
Response to Original message
8. You're funny,
Clio.:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:43 PM
Response to Original message
9. angry is being kicked out of the military by DADT cuz Obama will not suspend it nt
Edited on Thu May-13-10 09:43 PM by msongs
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:44 PM
Response to Original message
10. And yet the Obama administration hasn't permanently shitcanned offshore drilling.
It's still playing us for suckers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. And if they're smart about it they won't until the report comes out
No need to at this point, as nothing further along these lines is going ahead.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 09:46 PM
Response to Original message
11. I prefer the term "deeply troubled"
It conveys just the right mood, without being conclusive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #11
16. Ah yes, that's classic Obama speak. Forgot about that one. NT
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 11:37 PM
Response to Original message
20. Angry is firing Salazar and Shutting down all new deepwater drilling permits & requiring shutoffs
Edited on Thu May-13-10 11:39 PM by Moochy
but instead there will be a measured cadence, pregnant pauses and a few stern glances at the camera.

Also look for the clenched fist with thumb extended, ala Clinton.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 11:44 PM
Response to Original message
21. LOL! He's a firm believer in the "free" market he has nothing
Edited on Thu May-13-10 11:45 PM by scentopine
to be mad about. The free market knew the risks of oil drilling in the ocean and decided it was worth the price.

And wanna bet the free market will decide that the corporations at fault will get off without any real punishment and the victims of this disaster (American public) will receive no justice?

Wall Street had their oil slick and they are rolling in cash. BP has theirs and the the ultimate outcome will be the same.

The free market - ain't it grand!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 06:22 AM
Response to Reply #21
24. So one cannot be a "believer" in the free market and also believe in regulations/accountability.
What's the alternative?

Why not just say "fer us or agin us..."?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
robinblue Donating Member (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 12:22 AM
Response to Original message
22. Obama shook his fingers at the CEOs for their bonuses also
DAH!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 07:31 AM
Response to Original message
27. He should be chagrined.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 07:50 AM
Response to Original message
28. Angry Orator....scary
Edited on Fri May-14-10 07:52 AM by AllentownJake
Call me when you have an angry Attorney General convening Grand Juries.

As my mother told me when I brought home a bad report card in 8th grade, "Yes you are the smartest kid in the room, so stop fucking talking and do."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 09:35 AM
Response to Reply #28
30. +1
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:27 AM
Response to Original message
31. Just released video of "The Rock" Obama warming up with his sparring partner.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:51 AM
Response to Original message
32. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 11:36 AM
Response to Original message
35. "I can't recall a previous occasion on which Pres. Obama sounded as decidedly angry...
about an issue or development as he did today."

http://twitter.com/markknoller/statuses/13985168958
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 11:38 AM
Response to Original message
36. "Obama privately has been described as "livid" - and it is showing today."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 12:00 PM
Response to Original message
39. "and another thing, would the hysterics at DU back the fuck up?"
i'm trying to turn the Titanic here, not a Mini Cooper!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 02:03 PM
Response to Original message
41. He better have action to back it up
Because all the talk about how angry he was with the financial institutions and health companies while not doing anything about it (or openly kowtowing to them) got old.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 12:19 AM
Response to Original message
44. So was he angry today?
huh guess not.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 08:56 AM
Response to Original message
47. Why does BP even have the smallest say in how this is handled?
If I was running a meth lab in my neighborhood, and toxic shit was coming out of my home, the Hazmat team would take over and condemn my property, and do what they have to do. They wouldn't be respecting my ownership and they certainly wouldn't be asking for my advice.

Take control of the rig. Take control of the solution. Send BP the fucking bill and let them sort that out with the subcontractors. Otherwise, they should have been out of the picture from day one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 09:07 AM
Response to Reply #47
49. Have you been paying attention to this administration the past year and a half
Why does the President dine and take suggestions from CEOs that drove their companies into the ground requiring bailouts from the government in various forms?

This is nothing new, unlike the financial fiasco, you can just see on the Ocean surface the effect of the President embrace of sociopath business leaders.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-15-10 01:13 PM
Response to Original message
52. Has it happened yet or did I blink and miss it? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 10:57 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC