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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 07:13 AM
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Confused Voters Want Revenge and Results?
Edited on Tue May-18-10 07:19 AM by babylonsister
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/05/17/2010-elections-confused-voters-want-revenge-and-results/

2010 Elections: Confused Voters Want Revenge and Results?

David Corn

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No doubt, some of that I-hate-D.C. feeling is ideologically motivated: Tea Party types are livid that a terrorist-coddling secret Muslim who was born in Kenya is nationalizing the health care system on his way to imposing complete socialization upon the United States of America. But anti-incumbent passion does seem to extend to other kinds of voters. After the Massachusetts special Senate election that sent Republican Scott Brown to Washington to inhabit the seat once held by Ted Kennedy, a top union official told me of her experience working a Democratic phone bank that had been trying to move Democratic votes in the Bay State to vote for Brown's opponent, Martha Coakley, the state attorney general. Solid and longtime Democratic voters had told this union leader they were going with Brown -- even though they disagreed with his policy positions -- to send Washington a message. She recalled asking one union voter, "You know Brown stands for everything you're against?" That voter told her, "I know that. But I want to send a message to Washington."

So what's the message? It may be that non-Tea Party angry voters crave immediate results out of D.C. -- particularly when it comes to unemployment and the economy. (For them, apparently, it doesn't count for much that Obama's $862 billion stimulus bill has created or prevented the loss of up to 3.5 million jobs.)
But what's the best way to get Washington toiling effectively on the messes at hand? Is it to increase the power of the minority party that tends to block the president? That doesn't make sense. Yet a recent poll indicates that voters might not think in such, uh, logical terms. It notes that 62 percent of voters believe it's better if different parties control Congress and the presidency. Sure, that provides a check on power. But it's also a recipe for squabbling, not action.

This number is particularly high (and, consequently, rather worrisome for Democrats). Shortly before the GOP takeover of the House in 1994 -- remember those "angry white men" voters? -- 55 percent wanted to see the White House and Congress in different partisan hands. A month prior to the last election, less than half of Americans -- 48 percent -- were worried about single-party control. Now, almost two-thirds want a bottleneck in the nation's capital.

Is there a paradox at work? When crises are afoot, the public frets more about one party running the show and going too far? Yet if an anti-incumbent wave takes out more Democrats than Republicans, it will likely be harder for the White House and Congress to produce policy initiatives that address any of the current challenges. In fact, the odds are there will be more of the partisan bickering and gamesmanship that many Americans say they cannot stand.

Obama was elected in part because he promised to rise above partisan politics. He vowed that on his watch Washington would operate better for the citizenry. But in politics it takes two to transcend. And when sharp-edged partisan and policy disagreements divide the two parties, transcendence isn't possible. Moreover, an attempt to achieve it might come at the expense of bold action.

Throwing out bums this fall will not make D.C. more functional. It will make the capital more factional -- and ineffectual. How Obama and Democrats persuade pissed-off voters of this is a historic challenge. Voters are not always practical-minded, and in many troubled relationships, the desire for revenge often trumps the need for results.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 08:05 AM
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1. Voters are in a transition period. We are recovering from the Bush/GOP disaster
that spurred the anger but we are still not where we want to be.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:13 AM
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2. Voters can have both
Edited on Tue May-18-10 09:16 AM by Proud Liberal Dem
Revenge against the Republicans (for the Bush years) and results-but only if they elect more Democrats IMHO. If they end up electing more Republicans out of "revenge" (for ????) or some misguided perception that they need to "check" President Obama and the Democratic agenda, then- despite maybe a few minutes of satisfaction- they are soon going to feel disappointed by the *results* they will have attained. Certainly, given the last two years, it's clear that a Republican controlled Congress- if nothing else-will simply continue to obstruct and derail the President's agenda and prevent anything short of their tea-party approved policies to pass not to mention attempt to hamstring President Obama and his administration with a bunch of baseless, frivolous, and endless investigations.

I've never really understood why divided government only really seems to be a big issue whenever the Democrats control the WH and what exactly are Democrats doing now that is so bad that some people feel that they NEED Republicans to "check" them? If the problem is that they're not being "progressive" enough, throwing Democrats out of office- while "punishing" them- won't produce more progressive results (quite the contrary). Except for approximately a year of Bush's first term and a couple of years towards the end of Bush's second term, the Republicans had a stranglehold on Congress- which was preceded by them having had control of Congress non-stop from halfway through Clinton's FIRST term- and very few people (except us) were busy pontificating about the need to "check" the very real excesses of the Bush (mis-)administration.

:banghead:
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:19 AM
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3. Two party system...it can be a vicious cycle when people vote blindly angry.
Edited on Tue May-18-10 09:20 AM by Jennicut
It really accomplishes nothing. And rewards the bums you just threw out a few years ago. It was the Rethugs that made Obama's life difficult (and some conservadems). Let's reward them directly contributing to making things "slow" to begin with! Oh well...
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:20 AM
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4. I shutter every time I hear candidates for our House seat say..
Edited on Tue May-18-10 09:20 AM by Clio the Leo
"I'm not a Washington type I'm a....." (fill in the black with whatever trade they're coming from.) I think to myself, "boy..." ('cause that's what we call all the men here, lol) "Boy .... those lobbyists are going to EAT you alive..."

I guess I'm weird, but the notion of someone having NO experience with the way DC works scares the crap out of me.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 01:54 PM
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5. "boy..." ('cause that's what we call all the men here, lol)"
Southerner :)
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 03:06 PM
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7. Scares the crap out of me too......
Edited on Tue May-18-10 03:10 PM by Tippy
Do you think we will be able to turn out our base here in TN..I am hopefull McWerter will be able to get them excited.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 04:17 PM
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8. Hopeful here too
Cockeye, Mr. Dollar Bill and Wasp are...:scared: :scared::scared:
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 02:12 PM
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6. We need to get the real message through to the voters
with the RW media we are not getting through to them. The Democratic Party needs to get on it fast.

Incumbents need to start doing some work LOCALLY. For instance I have not heard from my Senator for 4 years or my congressman for 2 years! Voters want evidence that they are doing things for them - it isn't too much trouble to send out a letter or flier every couple of mnths telling their constituents what they are doing - what bills they have proposed and had made into law. What they opposed and why! I hear every quarterly from the state delegates giving us all an update.
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