WTF??? 2nd Place Democrat for Senate gets more votes than 1st Place Teabagger Paul!

[FrenchieCat]

Thus far, anyways.....

U.S. Senate - GOP Primary
May 18, 2010 - 08:42PM ET
Kentucky - 2416 of 3575 Precincts Reporting - 68%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Paul , Rand GOP 135,765 59%
Grayson , Trey GOP 82,509 36%
Johnson , Bill GOP 4,430 2%
Stephenson , John GOP 3,869 2%
Martin , Gurley GOP 1,652 1%
Scribner , Jon GOP 1,647 1%



U.S. Senate - Dem Primary
May 18, 2010 - 08:42PM ET
Kentucky - 2532 of 3575 Precincts Reporting - 71%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Conway , Jack Dem 170,086 47%
Mongiardo , Daniel Dem 148,189 41%
Price , Darlene Dem 19,656 5%
Sweeney , Maurice Dem 12,978 4%
Buckmaster , James Dem 11,234 3%

http://www.courier-journal.com/

[KingFlorez]

1. Interesting

Kentucky does have more registered Democrats, but it still is quite interesting.

[bigwillq]

2. More Ds in Kentucky (nt)

[FrenchieCat]

3. Still, remember voter apathy on the D side

and Fired up ready to go on the R side.

That's what we have been told.

[bigwillq]

7. Seems like the teabaggers were fired up

Carried Rand to victory.

I have apathy. I am voting all of the incumbents out.

[FrenchieCat]

12. Teabaggers are Republicans.

So I don't get what you mean there.

As for apathy, where are you located?

[bigwillq]

16. Connecticut

Don't get what I mean where? Teabaggers WERE fired up. They voted for the teabag candidate, and he WON.

[FrenchieCat]

17. Teabaggers are Republicans,

they voted for a Republican.

I don't see the Fired up part,
but OK.

[bigwillq]

23. So only DEMS can be fired up?

:shrug:

My point was that the teabaggers seem to be fired up..they went out and voted for the teabag candidate, and HE (PAUL) WON.

[FrenchieCat]

26. Hahaha!

You sound like the MSM!

They also like to say that Teabaggers are fired up,
and they also don't give Dems any credit to their account
with any positive narratives, even if there are some staring them in the face!


Look at the turnout now....
regardless of the particulars....
and then continue to say that Teabaggers
who are nothing more than ultra Right Wing
are the ones fired up.....
K?



U.S. Senate - GOP Primary
May 18, 2010 - 09:12PM ET
Kentucky - 3068 of 3575 Precincts Reporting - 86%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Paul , Rand GOP 176,913 59%
Grayson , Trey GOP 105,417 35%
Johnson , Bill GOP 6,357 2%
Stephenson , John GOP 5,560 2%
Martin , Gurley GOP 2,286 1%
Scribner , Jon GOP 2,211 1%



U.S. Senate - Dem Primary
May 18, 2010 - 09:12PM ET
Kentucky - 3068 of 3575 Precincts Reporting - 86%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Conway , Jack Dem 198,610 45%
Mongiardo , Daniel Dem 186,315 42%
Price , Darlene Dem 24,333 6%
Sweeney , Maurice Dem 15,489 4%
Buckmaster , James Dem 14,800 3%

[bigwillq]

31. It shows that the DEMS

are fired up, too.

But so are the teabaggers, it appears, from this result. Is that ok? Can they not be? :shrug:

[FrenchieCat]

35. I am a Democrat, so I choose to emphasize good signs for Democrats.....

Just like Repugs emphasize good news for them,
even if they have to twist it a bit.
So sue me.

Big lead story by the GOP's Liberal Press? Rand Wins!

Guess that's why I don't give Repugs any slack.....EVER!
They have the media on their side already,
emphasizing whatever they want emphasized!

[golfguru]

39. The establishment Republicans were backing Grayson

Which means Teabaggers were fired up, the regular republicans stayed home.

[DrToast]

4. via 538.com

8:44 PM . Just an interesting point, the 60% or so by which Democratic turnout is exceeding Republican turnout in Kentucky is almost exactly the margin by which Democratic registration exceeds Republican registration(1.6 million to a bit over 1 million).

I consider equal turnout good news.

[FrenchieCat]

5. That's what I'm thinking!

Think the MSM will report that tidbit?
Cause if not, why in the fuck not?

[bigwillq]

9. Maybe you should write them a letter

or start your own news station.

[FrenchieCat]

11. I write letters all of the time......

but I'm only one person.

I figure that posting it here might help....
or at least help more than just keeping the observation to myself.
Sometimes I take if for granted that folks notice everything that I do,
but I can say that in some instances I have been proven wrong.

[Uzybone]

21. Just give up, post snark on message board

and say you have apathy or you've been betrayed. That'll show em!

[jenmito]

13. Keith mentioned it just now on MSNBC! And Chris Matthews just said he's "taken" with that

number (of Dems. outnumbering Repubs.) And they concluded it's "doable" with those numbers that the Dem. could beat Paul in Nov. if they do a good job of making him look crazy enough with his far-out positions!

[FrenchieCat]

19. Good! They got my emails! :)

as did Rachel!

[jenmito]

20. And mine, too!

:D

[FrenchieCat]

22. There we go!

:toast:

[jenmito]

27. ...

:fistbump: and thanks for posting all the email addresses (and phone numbers which I have on speed-dial). :)

[FrenchieCat]

30. I have them on speed dial too!

Whenever the piss me off, I call.

Of course, I change my voice! LOL!

[jenmito]

32. I don't bother

changing my voice. Maybe I should, because there has been more than one time that I've called telling them I will no longer watch their network. :D

[Dappleganger]

41. Paul IS crazy enough to get beaten.

He believes in some very unfortunate ideals.

[Kolesar]

18. Must be Democrats who have registered Dem going back to Johnson or FDR

They may vote for conservative Democrats in the primaries, but Kentuckians keep voting for 'pugs in the statewide and national races.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

46. I'm thinking likely voter models are going to vastly underrepresent Dems this year.

For precisely this reason. I think pollsters are underestimating the sheer number of Democrats that we've picked over the past 4 years and haven't done enough to shift their weighting models. This could be a very good thing for us.

[JohnnyLib2]

6. See response #4 in this thread

www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x303743#303758

More Ds, now and traditionally. BUT...... "liberal" remains a scary term here. :-(

[Drunken Irishman]

8. And I wouldn't be surprised if a good number of those Conway voters support Paul in November.

[FrenchieCat]

10. Why?

[Drunken Irishman]

15. Why do you think Democrats struggle there?

Conway will have a better shot because he's a moderate Democrat. However, it's a very conservative state. It's why Obama got killed there in the primaries & general election.

He'll have a good shot, but many Democrats there are Democrats in name only. And since it's a closed primary, it means that you can only vote the party you're registered to and many won't leave the Democratic Party just to vote in a primary.

[onenote]

42. ky is more competitive than you give it credit for being

Bunning barely won each of his Senate races. Even McConnell has had relatively competitive races other than in 2002. Over the past several decades the state has had only one repub governor (Fletcher). While it is true that most of the Democrats elected statewide in Ky are not from the progressive wing of the party, the fact that they have a "D" attached to their name has not prevented them from getting elected.

[Drunken Irishman]

43. I never said it wasn't...

I do believe he'll stand a good chance of winning. However, we can't take these results as an indication he'll walk to victory.

The race is going to be extremely tight.

Though I have some concerns that Conway got swamped in most of the state. He'll need to win more than Louisville and Lexington to beat Paul.

[JohnnyLib2]

14. I have to agree with that alarming thought.

Paul started early, has a strong organization and has is playing the "outsider," anti-government theme. Gulp!

Another part to watch: what does McConnell do now?

[totodeinhere]

24. I don't think it's been called for Conway yet, but we need to get behinnd...

whoever the nominee turns out to be and work hard. In spite of an edge in registrations, Dems in Kentucky often struggle in state wide races. And I sense a lot of volatility out there right now and who knows where it might lead. I wouldn't necessarily write off Paul just because he is the tea party candidate.

[dumpdabaggers]

25. And few in media will point this out. It will be "Rand Paul Wins."

NT

[FrenchieCat]

28. Yep.....

and looks like Dems, even here, will help out in this meme,
rather than reporting what could be a positive story for Dems.

[jenmito]

29. Rachel's covering it now and Keith & Chris covered it earlier-"voter enthusiasm." n/t

[Clio the Leo]

33. Whoohoooo!!!! NT

[FrenchieCat]

34. 92% of votes, and holds true that 2nd place Dem Senate Candidate w/t more votes than Rep Winner!

.S. Senate - GOP Primary
May 18, 2010 - 09:40PM ET
Kentucky - 3305 of 3575 Precincts Reporting - 92%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Paul , Rand GOP 190,391 59%
Grayson , Trey GOP 113,925 35%
Johnson , Bill GOP 6,902 2%
Stephenson , John GOP 6,090 2%
Martin , Gurley GOP 2,572 1%
Scribner , Jon GOP 2,422 1%



U.S. Senate - Dem Primary
May 18, 2010 - 09:37PM ET
Kentucky - 3302 of 3575 Precincts Reporting - 92%
Name Party Votes Vote %
Conway , Jack Dem 212,951 45%
Mongiardo , Daniel Dem 203,520 43%
Price , Darlene Dem 26,143 5%
Sweeney , Maurice Dem 16,667 4%
Buckmaster , James Dem 16,277 3%

[marlakay]

36. thats a great sign we need turn out in nov!!! nt

[FrenchieCat]

37. We need that to be the story!

[agentS]

38. I guess Paul and Grayson just weren't that interesting after all

Paul seemed to be a lock for the past month or less. I guess Grayson just couldn't keep up in the polls or in the media market, so on the GOP side there wasn't as much needed interest.

On the Dem side, well you see how close those numbers are. Quite closer and thusly more invective to vote.

So the Tea party creeps got their guy past 1 primary. But they're jumping about like he's running for the presidency in 2012. Uh, this is a PRIMARY. He's not the senator-elect. I'd like to see the adjusted polls after he proclaims a return to slavery or whatever douchebag crap him and his pa wanna saw.

[Aramchek]

40. same thing in Pennsylvania

[DCBob]

44. That is remarkable.. very good sign indeed for Nov.

I guess we wont be seeing this on Faux or Drudge.

[tomm2thumbs]

45. That AND Paul actually had inherited-name recognition - other tea baggers don't

plus they had the 'angry' behind them, and that didn't prove enough to bring in significant numbers





'and for my final trick, I'm going to disappear...'

[Raine1967]

47. I was just looking for this info -- I posted a link about this!

here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=304892&mesg_id=304892

I hope you don't mind if I add it over there, Frenchie!

[FrenchieCat]

48. Of course I don't mind!

:hi: