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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:34 PM
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New public option plan - Senator Carper's
New public option plan
By J. Taylor Rushing and Bob Cusack - 12/01/09 08:32 PM ET

A new measure on the public option will be unveiled next week, which Senate Democratic leaders hope will break the logjam on healthcare reform.

Sen. Tom Carper (D-Del.), who has been tapped by Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) to come up with a Plan B approach to the public option controversy that has divided Democrats, has been working closely with liberal and conservative Democrats, as well as Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine).

In an interview, Carper acknowledged that Reid’s “opt out” public option bill does not have 60 votes necessary for passage, even though it cleared a procedural hurdle last month.

If it attracts widespread support, the Carper measure could be added to Reid’s bill, which is expected to be debated on the Senate floor over the next several weeks.

Sensing that his bill may need changes, Reid recently called on Carper and Sens. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Mary Landrieu (D-La.) to come up with new legislative language on the hot-button issue of the public option.

Carper indicated that significant progress has been made and it is a question of when, not if, the new healthcare plan will be unveiled. Carper initially said an outline of his measure could be issued later this week, but later said it is more likely to emerge next week.

Legislative text may not be available next week, Carper said.

“I expect early next week we’ll have something to share — not just with our colleagues, but with the broader community,” Carper told The Hill.
Reid’s office did not comment for this article.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/70107-new-public-option-plan
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:37 PM
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1. Why do they act like their might be a need to adjust this bill? Use Conyers' bill.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:45 PM
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2. Why is the minority, like in Senator Olympia Snowe, ruling the majority,
the seventy percent of Americans who want Medicare as a public option that they can buy in to? :shrug:
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:05 PM
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7. New "Obama" math.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:49 PM
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3. good idea....
... sneak this one in when we're all preoccupied because on ANY other day, it would have resulted in a good old fashioned board war! ;)

I almost posted it earlier but then I was like .... no, not that brave. lol
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:52 PM
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4. It will be a piece of SHIT trigger
This is bullshit.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:54 PM
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5. But I thought the point now was to get to conference with some type of PO,
cause once it comes out, won't they only need 51 votes? :shrug:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:57 PM
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6. In the back of my mind I believe that,
but wouldn't you rather have a good public option from both houses?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:34 AM
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9. Not if I can't get one from the Senate and so the bill stalls......
A PO is a PO. What I don't want is no PO at all going into conference in one of the bills.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:44 PM
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13. Too quick to compromise with a few idiots
We have majority (54 at least) support for a good public option, why compromise with the fools - let them twist in the wind. There's no way we're not going to get a PO anyway, I'd at least like to see the Dems stick it to these traitorous ass holes.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:43 PM
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12. No.
They will need 60 for cloture on the final bill, as well.Unless.....
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 11:36 PM
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8. Carper?? Seriously, why don't they ask Bernie Sanders to write a bill.
Carper's not going to come up with anything that is not a corporate enabling plan.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:36 AM
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10. Hey, I know! Let's get the one Self Professed Socialist to write up the PO
so that it we end up with no bill for conference.

Brilliant! Just Brilliant! Why did'nt I think of it?

:applause:







:sarcasm:
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:41 PM
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11. OK, then Russ Feingold
Someone who's not a fucking ex president of the DLC for fucks sake.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:07 PM
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14. Socialistic health care is what we need and there is already a bill written
that Harry Reid won't look at. I think we should just put all this out for a vote nationwide and see who wins. Screw the bought and paid for, by the health care industry, politicians. Didn't you like the French system? I remember you saying that you did. I do too. Unfortunately, what is emerging as health care reform is 180 degrees opposite of it.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:20 PM
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17. It is common practice not to consider bills for which there are nowhere near enough votes. (nt)
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:25 PM
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19. They seem to have no problem putting through legislation for wars
and corporate bail out money.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:28 PM
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21. Yeah, and they have the votes for them.
What part of "the votes aren't there" don't you understand?
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:10 PM
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15. I hear you, but Carper is not a good choice

I'm a Delaware Democrat, and I wouldn't trust him with this one. Carper has been MIA for years.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:24 PM
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18. +1.
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budkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:17 PM
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16. Bye bye public option!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:26 PM
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20. I told everyone at the beginning that if you didn't push
for and demand single payer, you wouldn't get a public option either as a compromise. I hate being right on this one.
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