Okay you political junkies.. What we have here is a "failure" to communicate

[Peacetrain]

And I think it could be a wonderful bonus for us come November.

Specifically the "tea party".

When Rove literally roped in the uber right religious community and had them put their stamp on what it would mean to be a republican.. who would have seen this coming?

The "tea party"

The "tea party" base, is very libertarian.. Look at who won KY. Good old Rand Paul.

What many libertarians stand for is totally the opposite of the Liberty College crowd.

Oh what I would give to be a fly on the wall, when they try to work this one out with those low information republicans.

:popcorn:

[Perky]

1. Fundies and true Libertarians will not be able to forge an allinace

This is the core of the problem with the Reagan coalition. Reagan's charisma and babble/prattling on about small government were enough to assuage both groups. But with out a central force and person articulating a message that appeal to both. you get one gaping fracture point.


Ask Rand Paul what he thinks of a "right to Privacy" and watch the fundies go ballistic. It will take some serious mental gymnastics to assert that Roe was wrongly decided and yet the Government has no right to interfere with the private affairs of the individual.

[wyldwolf]

2. Free and open borders!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

3. honestly, we all should have seen this coming, frankly.

This is their MO - short term thinking, do what ever it takes to get elected, and fuck the consequences tomorrow. That's how they campaign, that's how they govern, and the results are very well known at this point.

Honestly, how do you think the Liberty College crowd came to be embraced by the Republican Party in the first place? Simple - Republicans saw an opening after JFK - a Catholic - got elected to sway protestants who felt disenfranchised to come over to the Republican Party and get one of their own back into office. That's why the Republican platform makes no sense whatsoever - states' rights rule, except when it comes to social issues. Government needs to stay out of people's business... unless they're gay.

Simply put, the GOP tossed the protestants a few bones on abortion and gay rights because those issues didn't much matter, and meanwhile the libertarians and the business community could bark about taxes together and separately bitch about civil rights and government regulations. It was all working until the business community had the bottom dropout and the libertarians started getting pissed about bailouts; meanwhile, the religious right was starting to realize they were been used since abortion is still legal and gay rights keep getting slowly eroded. It's just taken longer for the whole thing to unravel because these folks ain't too quick on the uptake, if you know what I mean.