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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 08:15 AM
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"Experts: Sestak Job Offer Politics As Usual" (and nothing more)
EXPERTS: SESTAK JOB OFFER POLITICS AS USUAL
Posted: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:04 PM by Mark Murray

GOP Rep. Darrell Issa, the ranking member of the House’s government watchdog committee and one of the earliest and loudest critics of the alleged offer, has cited three federal laws that may have been violated by an offer of employment to Sestak by a representative of the White House -- all of which are misdemeanors. One prohibits “solicit or receiv any thing of value” in exchange for an appointment to a public office. Another law bans any administrative employee of the federal government from “using his official authority for the purpose of interfering with or affecting” an election.

A third law -- one cited by Senate Judiciary Committee Republicans in a letter yesterday urging Attorney General Eric Holder to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate the case –- makes it illegal to promise an employment position “as consideration, favor, or reward for any political activity.”

In legalese, such terms could be difficult to define. Would Sestak’s decision not to run have qualified as “political activity”? What constitutes a “thing of value”? Could the statute be interpreted in a way that could criminalize even fairly routine actions, like an administration official’s granting of a tropical ambassadorship to a reliable former fundraiser, or a congressman’s endorsement of a Senate candidate based upon the promise of legislative collaboration?

Legal experts say that such ambiguity would make a case very difficult to prosecute, no matter what the particulars of the Sestak matter may have been.

Rick Hasen, the author of Election Law Blog and a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles, points out that the law appears to be so broad that it could apply to anyone who works on a federal campaign, and ends up with a job working for the victorious candidate.

“If an interpretation of a statute would seem to render politics as usual to be illegal, then the courts could well say that this is not what the statute means,” Hasen said.

“As a general matter, this kind of situation is viewed as politics as usual,” added Professor Daniel Lowenstein of UCLA Law School. “It’s just not the kind of the thing that is usually dealt with in a criminal prosecution.”

Melanie Sloan, the executive director of watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, said that criminal allegations in the Sestak case are “ludicrous.” She points out that there has never been a prosecution under the 1972 law cited by the Senate Judiciary Committee Republicans. “There’s no definition of ‘political activity’ within the law,” she said. “It’s really not a very well-written statute.”

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/05/27/2330976.aspx


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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 08:16 AM
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1. Why are you promoting - propagating the propaganda?
These are republican talking points, why buy into the madness?
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 08:45 AM
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4. That the administration did no wrong?
That's a Republican talking point? Has Darrell Issa changed parties? Or just changed his mind?
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 08:46 AM
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6. Apparently, defending the president against bogus GOP charges
is now considered to be "propaganda" by some on DU.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 08:50 AM
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8. lol, well THAT part is nothing new...
.... it's this interesting new line that Fiery is saying defending the administration and Sustak is suddenly a GOP cause du jour.

She totally lost me on that one.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:00 AM
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10. It's not a good idea to connect Obama to "politics as usual"
That's the talking points being referred to. Obama ran on "change is coming". Republican talking points are meant to back Democrats into a corner so that the only way to get out is to say "Obama's doing the exact same thing Bush 2, Bush 1, Reagan, et al, have done."

It's not a winning position, and I'm sure it's not one the White House is going to take. They are formulating a response that will be appropriate.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:07 AM
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12. No matter what the reality................
Ahhhhh, that's precisely politics as usual.

Hypocrisy reigns.......

:eyes:



:7
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:07 AM
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14. Here's a thread that has DUers saying it was all chess! Obama didn't really want Specter to win:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 08:33 AM
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2. Duh. nt
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 08:36 AM
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3. PROSECUTE ZOMBIE REAGAN!!!!!!!111Elevens
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 08:46 AM
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5. exactly NT
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 08:47 AM
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7. And the law they are citing is from 1972
so it was clearly in effect when Reagan promised a job to Hayakawa so that his daughter could run for the Senate.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 08:53 AM
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9. My gut is that as long as Sestak was qualified for the job
Then these statutes would not apply.

It sounds like they are meant for things more substantial than not running for an office. Any individual not running for an office means nothing. Anyone can run for any office. If Sestak took the job, someone else could still run against Spector.

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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 09:04 AM
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11. A question of perception is the problem.
Edited on Fri May-28-10 09:07 AM by Beacool
Obama kept saying during his campaign that he was going to change the politics of Washington and talked a lot about transparency. So, when he turns out to be playing politics as usual just like everyone else who came down the pike before him, he can expect to be called out on it. It's perceived as being hypocritical and the media loves nothing more than to rub it in a politician's face.

:shrug:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:19 AM
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13. The effort to back a sure loser - Specter - is unusual. nt
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 12:46 PM
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15. They wanted to keep him in line for the agenda prior to the election.
That's all it was about.
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