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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:36 AM
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FLASHBACK: Reagan Administration Offered Hayakawa a Job
Edited on Fri May-28-10 11:46 AM by rhombus
The Wilmington Morning Star, November 26, 1981:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1454&dat=19811126&id=ibcsAAAAIBAJ&sjid=HhQEAAAAIBAJ&pg=5060,5317656

http://twitpic.com/1ruq64

The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy rears its ugly head again. It's OK If You're a Republican:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:37 AM
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1. The crime here is the White House's determined backing of a sure GE loser in Specter. nt
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:51 AM
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2. Exactly!!

I've been saying that since this stupid nonstory first "broke" - - the only wrongdoing here was Obama supporting that ancient tool Specter for reelection.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 11:56 AM
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3. Yeah. Other than that, it's something ALL admins have done. nt
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 08:00 PM
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24. Well, that's just flat out lie
and will remain so- no matter how many times that it's repeated.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 12:21 PM
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6. Hindsight is 20/20

Specter has been winning elections in Pennsylvania for a long time.

I agree with you that Specter's career should have ended more gracefully.

However, when you are looking at the Racing Form a month in advance, and you are deciding between a proven Grade 1 handicap winner versus a maiden two year old, then arguing against the tote board is pointless.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 03:46 PM
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18. 10 years in political polling tell me Specter would be a Dead Duck in Nov. nt
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 05:12 PM
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19. The bottom line remains

60 votes to break a filibuster, and it is not up to the White House who wins a primary. I get the feeling that some are more interested in finding wedges.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 05:33 PM
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21. I agree. The WH should stay out. A good, competitive primary invigorates Dems. nt
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 05:39 PM
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22. Oh...yeah... Like in 1980
Edited on Fri May-28-10 05:40 PM by jberryhill
I'm not blaming anyone for 1980, just observing the outcome.

We all agree this problem started in 1980, and this would be a different world if we hadn't lost it - no matter who had won the primary.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 07:29 PM
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23. Specter was going to lose the GE. nt
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 08:07 PM
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25. When did that become apparent?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:30 PM
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26. He's old AND unhealthy. He was going to lose. nt
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-29-10 02:15 AM
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29. I'm just asking when should that have been apparent /nt
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:51 PM
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27. Unless there's a part of the US Code that forbids that,
the only crime is political stupidity.
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Traveling_Home Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 12:07 PM
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4. HOT DAMN - WE ARE AS ETHICAL AS REAGAN - -WHOOOPPEEEEEE
Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy - kinda like the Pelican's in LA, must feel covered in Oil.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 12:29 PM
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8. Zactly. nt
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 10:52 PM
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28. The point is not to say that "EVERYONE DOES IT!".
The point is that it wasn't illegal then, so why should it be illegal now? It's horsetrading--pure and simple. If we're going to wring the White House's neck for this, what's next?
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 12:10 PM
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5. "hayakawa job, brownie!"
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 12:29 PM
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7. It was wrong then too. This post is pointless. nt
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 12:30 PM
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9. It's not pointless. Did anyone threaten to impeach Reagan over it?
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 12:31 PM
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11. Did they have or should they have?
No to the first, yes to the 2nd.
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 01:41 PM
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15. AttOd
You hate Barack Obama, don't you.
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 12:36 PM
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13. It was neither illegal nor unethical
Saying it's wrong is simply your opinion. Nothing more.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 05:13 PM
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20. Win! /nt
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 12:30 PM
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10. I've never quite understood the point of railing against Bush and his ilk for 8 years...
but then using their behavior as an excuse for everything we do for the next 8.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 12:34 PM
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12. Bush was breathing oxygen too

Obama breathes oxygen too! Oh noes!

I still fail to see what the problem is here.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 01:33 PM
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14. So you're happy we're just
like them?
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WeDidIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 01:42 PM
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16. Nothing illegal, immoral, or unethical about what Reagan did with Hayakawa. n/t
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-28-10 02:28 PM
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17. Not sure exactly who is wearing the egg on the face -
- them for doing it or us for not investigating it? For the life of me, I can't figure out why we didn't act upon the Reagan offer at the time. It was enough of an incident to warrant a newspaper article so it was obviously common knowledge.

Little late to go after Ronnie for this and - while ironic - I don't see irony changing the law very often.
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