I Am Defending Sarah Palin For The 1st & Only Time In My Life.

[MyUncle]

Joe McGinnis has crossed a line of civility, propriety and professionalism. He has taken his job and turned it in to a 24/7 creepy obsession. Any family, even one named Palin, does not deserve to have someone invade their privacy like this man has.

As much as anyone hates Sarah Palin and everyone in her family, this is just plain wrong.

It does not pass the smell test.

If any journalist in any media moved in next to any of our own supporters because he/she was writing a book for any purpose good or bad, we'd be justifiably outraged.

No party is perfect, no person is perfect, defending the actions of Joe McGinnis is just plain wrong. This kind of behavior nauseates me and I am ashamed that people are supporting it.

[tammywammy]

1. How did he invade her privacy?

I believe it was she that posted a picture of him on the internet, not the other way around.

[AtomicKitten]

42. +1

[StopTheNeoCons]

61. +2

[DeschutesRiver]

87. +3

[jenmito]

2. I support McGinnis's right to move next door to Palin, a public figure who lies about

EVERYTHING and is never held accountable because she posts things on her Facebook page or whatever, the media reports on it, and she gets free publicity. She's even implying that he's a peeping Tom when there is NO evidence of that. She portrays herself as the poor wittle victim at every turn.

[MyUncle]

6. This isn't about "rights" it's about right.

If this happened to anyone you even remotely care about and someone that had it "in" for them moved in next door, you would be support their right to be there?

When we start acting and thinking like those we oppose, what makes us different from them?

[jenmito]

13. It's his right and it's right, too...

Palin is a VERY public figure and he moved there to see her in PUBLIC. She implied that he'll be looking into his youngest daughter's bedroom and watching her kids swim in her "watering hole"??? Isn't it a public beach where they go?

Sorry, but he doesn't have it "in" for her. She is great at playing the victim and lying about people violating her children's privacy while she uses them as props.

[Cha]

25. Poor poor poor little

palin..a big bad author is moving next door to her.:cry:

[jenmito]

34. She's the perpetual victim...

as she parades her children around like props.

[Cha]

46. And lies her vicious motormouth off.there will

always be those who take the bait..hook line and sinker.

[jenmito]

48. She sure does...

and she doesn't care WHO gets hurt as a result of her lies and smears. I have NO sympathy for her. As a matter of fact, I love it.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

89. I remind you that Sarah is not the only Palin, and some of them are indeed very little. N.T.

[kestrel91316]

108. And that house was legally built on a separate legal piece of land.

If Sarah doesn't want big bad journalists to lay eyes on her kiddies, she needs to move onto a much bigger piece of property.

She has no right to expect that people in the house next door cannot look onto her property.

[Andy823]

14. I am curious

What makes you think he "has it in for her"? He is writing a book, that doesn't mean he has it in for them. If I am not mistaken he was coming up there to write the book anyway, and the person that owns the house he is in called him and offered it to him.

[Blue_In_AK]

74. That's exactly correct,

and this is not the first time that Joe McGinniss has written a book about and from Alaska. His book Going to Extremes is one of the best books ever written about the Pipeline-building days.

In my opinion, Sarah could have defused this whole thing if she had welcomed Mr. McGinniss, gotten to know him, and presented her best face. Instead she chose to go all "mean girl" on him. She deserves whatever she gets.

[eShirl]

29. Let's get it straight; the Palins have it in for the author, not the other way around.

And no, they don't have the right to say who can rent the house next door, unless they happen to own that house.

[Dappleganger]

67. And let's not forget, they HAD the opportunity to buy that house and turned it down!

So it's their own damn fault they didn't spend a little money to buy some peace of mind. They rented it for awhile, convinced the owner (their neighbor) to build a deck and then changed their mind about the deck stiffing the owner out of $1500.

The neighbor is who sought out McGinnis, not the other way around.

[tammywammy]

69. Exactly

You'd think after it being an Oxford house for years they'd jump at the chance to buy it. I'm mostly curious why the Palins chose to build so close to their neighbor in the first place. They had quite a large lot, even the second house they're building isn't as close to the red one as that is to the neighbors. Strange. I do have to say it's quite funny, Bristol discussing how they live in the middle of no where and now Sarah's bitching about how close the neighbor is.

[DrToast]

53. I agree that he has a right to do it, but I do find it a little creepy.*

*

[Dappleganger]

66. Sorry, nobody I remotely care about is that fucking stupid or selfish.

They live fairly normal lives and don't try to bring undue attention to themselves or pimp their children off on the media.

[onpatrol98]

100. +1

I think the guy is behaving like a stalker. Republican or democrat, this was really uncool and creepy. I'd be creeped out if he moved next to me and my family. I'd be creeped out EVEN IF I was on television saying the stupidest things known to mankind. To me...this is true stalker mentality. It doesn't stop being stalker mentality just because I'm not a fan of Sarah Palin. Me personally, I'd move...no matter the cost, no matter the political fall out.

Next, the guy will be caught in her house going through her underwear drawer. Creepy....really, really, creepy. It takes a truly sick attachment TO MOVE NEXT DOOR TO YOUR INTEREST. It doesn't seem professional. It seems like...get a restraining order and hope he's seeking professional counseling AND doesn't have pictures of her inside his closet door.

[kestrel91316]

109. If Sarah doesn't like being looked at by people legally occupying a neighboring property

she can close her drapes, pland vegetation strategically, build a taller fence, or move.

McGinnis isn't interested in spying on her precious little stage props. He's interested in HER. What else does she expect when SHE has chosen the PUBLICITY AND SELF-AGGRANDIZEMENT ROUTE?

[onpatrol98]

124. Ohhhhhhhhhhh

Oh...I get it. She encouraged the stalking by her poor behavior. Her dress was too short. She smiled too brightly at him. She acted like she wanted it. She uttered stupid things in public, one time too many...she wanted it and was asking for it.

She chose to be stalked. It was only natural that a total stranger 1)to want to be closer to her; 2) move to the state (Alaska, for goodness sake) that she lives in; 3) move to the city that she lives in AND 4) move next door to her house AFTER trying to buy a ticket for a date with her for some charity event.

If this was ANY DEMOCRATIC POLITICAL FIGURE ALIVE...I WOULD THINK THIS WOULD BE STALKING!

I'm sorry. If she was my daughter...it would sound like stalking. I would love to jump on the "kick Palin wagon" today. It aggravates me to have to defend her position.

I can simply not imagine what lies she could cook up that would make this man moving next door to her to write about her seem normal.

If some writer...wanted to write about Nancy Pelosi, tried to pay for a date with her (but chickened out), moved from his state to hers, to her city, next door to her, all while attempting to sell a book (he says it'll be ready in 2011), I would think him an absolute lunatic at worst AND lacking in self control at the least.

This is not real journalism. You do not have to live next door to your latest subject. Maybe if you want to write about some tribe that's seldom ever seen, and has very little written about them.

But, hey! I have never purchased one of her books AND certainly will not be purchasing any books from her stalker. So, they can pimp profits from someone else.

[MyUncle]

140. You are correct, we are losing sight of our own vision.

[olegramps]

133. "Next the guy will be caught in her house going through her underwear drawer. "

You sound like Sara with her false accusations she learned from Rove's character assassination tactics.

[Cha]

118. palin is the one who is lying and crying victimhood..read the

interview with Joe McGinniss and then if you still feel sorry for palin..welcome to her fan club.

You don't have all the facts about what is "right".

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=321262&mesg_id=323495

[Doctor_J]

146. Heh. False premise

I could never care about a stupid, evil, narcissistic sociopath.

[napi21]

3. I you demand that much privacy, then buy a house in the middle of a lot of

acreage and you won't have to worry about nosy neighbors. We have law prohibiting discrimination in rentals & what you're advocating is discrimination against someone's profession. And don't bother with the she can't move because she dan't afford it either. HAving made over $12 million last year, she can live anywhere she wants to!

[MyUncle]

12. Is this what we've become?

Any means, any tactics.

So, quick question?

Super Bowl with Big Ben or 7-9 and 3 years of missed playoffs without him - which would you choose?

My guess you are bummed that Santonio got axed as well.

[napi21]

39. I'm haveing difficulty seeing a link in what you said vS what I posted, but

Yea I would want Big Ben to take the Steelers to the SB again!

Santonio simply couldn't seem to stay out of trouble.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/377269-santonio-holmes-trade-an-image-saving-move-for-steelers

[MyUncle]

93. It means that you will use any means possible to WIN BABY WIN.

I understand.

You want to win...PERIOD. 2x accused rapist, does not matter, give me reason to chug beer to celebrate my team WINNING!!!

Same with defeating Palin & family we have become what we despise - use whatever means necessary.

It just makes me sad that we are becoming what we despise in our enemies.

(insert deity here) help us all.

[kestrel91316]

110. Yeah, people, STOP BEING MEAN TO SARAH!!!!!

[Kahuna]

4. Got any proof other than palin's shrill accusations?

[Political Tiger]

5. Palin doesn't get to pick and choose her neighbors. Besides,

she's just upset because he's blocking her view of Russia.....
:crazy:

[onehandle]

7. In most cases I would agree. But Palin is the exception.

And he's not practicing a 'creepy obsession,' he's writing a book.

Palin is a plague on America... the world. Whatever it takes to expose her true grifter self.

[hlthe2b]

8. Bullshit

But I'm sure your concerns are noted.

[Andy823]

9. As has been stated

It's Palin that is making this into something "bad", and if you ask me it's all about her "need" to get attention from the media, play the victim card, and probably try and make some money off of what is happening!

[Pisces]

10. I would be pissed and creeped out with my children also. I don't agree with this guy living

next door. It feels like stalking. I'm pretty sure I would threaten the guy about crossing property lines.

[tammywammy]

15. You would think Sarah would have been more concerned with it was an Oxford house

He's never gone onto her property, Todd went over to his. He hasn't been posting pictures of Sarah out mowing the lawn on the internet, she did post a photo of him sitting on the deck not even looking at their property.

[jenmito]

16. Are you a public figure? Do you invite the media into your home while allowing your children to

be on camera, too? Palin's making up the part that he's peeping at her children and that he has it in for her. There is no proof of that.

[MyUncle]

17. No, I have never run for office or made money off of entertaining people.

[jenmito]

19. I wasn't talking to you, but your reply is another difference between you and Palin.

[secondwind]

She's freaking out because she has a LOT to hide. She is a cut-out doll, no substance whatsoever.

PLUS......she doesn't want anyone seeing how "well behaved" her kids really are...........

The first floor of this mansion will be Track's.....the second floor is for Bristol.........Track is a juvenile delinquent.

The 16-yr-old, Willow, is a "party girl" on the fast track already., etc., etc.,

[Pisces]

50. Even if I was a public figure. Imagine if some Glenn Beck fan who was a journalist

moved in next door to the Obama's in Chicago, or Corey Booker. It's just a little to close for comfort. I would also not like Oxford House next door to me either. I would have moved. I despise
Sarah Palin, think she is ignorant, but this just doesn't seem right to me.

[jenmito]

58. If the person was peeping in or something else wrong, that would be one thing.

Just living in a home that was offered to him is another. Who said he hates Palin as you're implying by your example? Is he a danger? Does he have a record? Palin LIVES to be in the spotlight/news/media, yet refuses to give interviews to anyone but Faux. Journalists have every right to do what this guy is doing and if he does anything inappropriate, he'll be in trouble/arrested.

[Warren Stupidity]

36. " I would threaten the guy about crossing property lines"

Ok. You do that. Meanwhile, last I heard, your property rights do not extend over your neighbors property.

[Dappleganger]

65. If she's that pissed then she should take some of that big money she made on her stupid book

and buy her kids a proper home with it so people who give Sarah the attention she is trying to bring to herself won't be able to get so close.

Sarah brought this all on herself by pissing off the neighbor, pissing off the blogger sphere and bragging/ranting about it on her dumb Facebook page like a 15 yr. old spoiled brat.

[Blue_In_AK]

75. He didn't cross any property lines.

Todd went to HIM.

[Doctor_J]

147. Palin's childrean, grandchildren, etc. are political props

that's her problem, not McGinnis's

[eShirl]

11. what a load of hogwash

sorry, but :eyes:

[MyUncle]

21. Hogwash??? Sorry if you do not agree with how I feel,

but I really do feel this way. I do not like it. This will get her more "sympathy". Take the names out of this story and 90% of the people in this country would be against the journalist.

[eShirl]

23. I think you are taking her manufactured victimhood at face value

I feel you need to get a grip. sorry, but that's how I feel.

[Political Tiger]

28. Manufactured victimhood is Palin's specialty. It's what she does best

And what I find "creepy" is how willing Palin is to use her children as a shield at the drop of a hat.

[handmade34]

77. journalists go to the front lines

often to report, no problem.

[CakeGrrl]

18. That's one more time than I ever will.

And why is this on GD: P?

[eShirl]

20. because Sarah is a future prezidint

natch

[katandmoon]

22. I love that it freaks the shit out of her. I hope it goes on freaking her out.

[lob1]

24. Joe isn't in the bushes, he's in a house next door. Would anyone living in that

house be considered spying on Palin? I read here on DU that the owner of the house offered the house to Joe. He's pissed at the Palin's for not paying him for some work he did, so he offered the house to Joe. Joe didn't seek it out. And talk about creepy, that really describes Sarah more than Joe in MHO.

[On the Road]

26. Wow, You Have Some Cojones

making an anti-anti-Palin post here.

:hi:

[demigoddess]

27. just because he is 'next door' doesn't mean he is at all close. Next door could be

far out of sight and/or hearing. He has a right to rent anywhere he wants. Wasilla etc is not that populated to have many rentals, I would think.

[Clio the Leo]

30. She smiled like a twit as people cheered for the President's death...

... on one hand, I agree with you, but just as I start to feel sorry for her, that memory comes flooding back and my sympathy disappears.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jw3o3y77MaA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZ-R-Z5CV0

[islandmkl]

31. she should have bought the house next door..and all the others surrounding her..

if this was/is a concern of HERS...

damn, this democracy crap just gets in the way some times, doesn't it?

...let me ask YOU this?...what control do you exercise over YOUR NEIGHBORS?

...ohh...is Sarah somehow different than you?

[tblue]

32. Now she'll know what those wolves feel like when airplanes fly by

until the moment the rifle shot shatters their skull. If she feels put out, I really don't care.

[Robeson]

33. We've had "journalist", try to find out which direction Clinton's penis curved...

...after that, I think we can handle any criticism with a level head - no pun intended. If Palin wants to play in the big leagues with her fascist comments and intervention in national politics, she better "man-up" and be ready.

[blue neen]

44. +1.

Also, no one has ever seemed to have any qualms about paying strict attention to Hillary's private life in the run-up to and during her presidential campaign.

[Fridays Child]

47. Bingo!

[Warren Stupidity]

35. So buying a house next door is invading Queen of Quits privacy?

How's that exactly?

[Webster Green]

37. I think it's really funny.

If it gets under the ignorant snowbilly's skin, that's even sweeter. :rofl:

[grantcart]

38. And it will undermine his product

You are correct that it gives a creepy stalker element to his work and will cause many to dismiss it because he seems to be obsessed more than professional.

[Politicalboi]

40. The writer has more to lose than Sarah

He may be the victim of a hunting accident, or found with a suicide note hanging from a tree. I hope he has security. With all of Sarah's rabid dogs willing to do ANYTHING for her he could become a third page story in an Alaskan newspaper.

[Political Tiger]

41. Is this the same Sarah Palin who used her powers to investigate her ex brother-in-law?

Sometimes karma is a bitch!

[Fridays Child]

43. Here's some perspective on the matter

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/51688

As per her usual M.O., the Palin thing is using this development to promote herself and victim-pimp her children. And, yes, this is about rights, not "right." Remember what country Alaska is part of? Besides, she has elected to turn herself into a lightning rod, and every direct hit that she attracts is just one more ka-ching of the Palin cash register. She neither needs nor deserves your defense.

[Robeson]

45. Excellent post, Friday's Child.

[profile this]

You want to play,

you have to pay.

[profile this]

49. You want to play,

you have to pay.

[hay rick]

59. Thanks for the link. nt

[olegramps]

134. The Palins as just plain old red-neck trash...

They share much in common with their hillbilly inbred admirers.

[onpatrol98]

136. Laughed until I cried....

So, this is proof that we should be supporting Joe McGinnis. If this guy is a victim...LOL. We're beyond desperate to find one.

So, a neighbor that was angry at Palin for work done on their house went looking for McGinnis...the Enquirer asked for the property (being the paparazzi paper that they are), but the neighbor turned them down. Remind me again, how is Joe different from the Enquirer?

So...poor McGinnis and son thought it would have been "journalist malpractice" to turn down such a gift. After all, he just wanted to be closer to his subject.

This is hilarious. So, really, poor Joe is the victim. After all, the angry neighbor came to him. I can hear the violins playing, now.

After all...what's a stalk...I mean journalist to do? Turn down an opportunity to get closer. LOL. Surely, he couldn't have asked himself if moving next door would have seemed unprofessional. No.

After all, he was lured by the unhappy neighbor to rent the house. The house came looking for him. He really doesn't want the additional publicity. Why...his money hopped out his pocket and drove up to Alaska without him. He just went up there to catch up with it. He was truly the innocent one. What nerve of Palin to think it weird that after he tries to buy a charity date, he moves next door. Nutty woman. Too funny!!!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

51. Are you Sarah's uncle?

[Fire1]

52. And you probably stand alone. I couldn't give a rat's ass

about Sarah Failin's 'privacy.'

[The Straight Story]

54. Funny how some say obama's kids are off limit, yell about beck, then do the same thing themselves

(nt)

[eShirl]

55. non sequitor

(ns)

[jenmito]

56. Who's doing the same thing themselves?

[Cha]

57. Poor palin and those kids she hides behind.

[Robeson]

60. Staight Story, you're smarter than that, and I don't have to tell you that....

...you know, as well as I do, that Palin has made a career using her children as props. In fact, she's been down right disgusting doing it.

[Beacool]

112. Ahhhh, the hypocrisy of the left. It never ceases to amuse me.

If this man was an Obama hater and he rented a house right next door to the Obama's (once they go back to their private lives), I can just imagine the outcry around here.

What the guy is doing would creep anyone out. Palin may be a jerk, but she has small children and they shouldn't have to worry about some guy probably spying their every move.

:eyes:

[onpatrol98]

125. I know, right!

It feels like the twilight zone. Just because its not illegal, doesn't mean you should do it. Common decency demands that you "not be creepy".

I wouldn't be surprised if he has photos of her around his wall, with articles. Well, of course. He's a writer. That's all normal...UNTIL YOU MOVE NEXT DOOR.

He loses all respectability to me.

[jenmito]

144. You have an active imagination.

There is NO proof that he's doing anything creepy. He's living in a house for a few months next to a VERY public figure who refuses to give any interviews except to Faux. The only creepy thing is Palin implying the guy is a peeping Tom who is spying on her children. She's playing victim again and lovin' it.

[jenmito]

143. Palin is playing the victim AGAIN and you're falling for it. She USES her children to get sympathy

and to smear OTHERS. Nobody is spying on her children. There is NO proof of that. We have the word of a known LIAR and you believe her...why? Because she's a woman? You seem to defend any woman any time no matter the circumstances.

Obama's kids AND Palin's kids are off-limits, even though Palin uses them as props, carrying/bringing them along with her every time she gives a public speech or even has reporters in her house. There is no hypocrisy here. Someone is renting a house next to Palin since it was offered to him. If the guy EVER is seen spying on Palin or her children, I'll be the first to defend her outrage. Unless that happens, she gets no sympathy.

[Ikonoklast]

62. Concern noted.

Palin is the one with the creepy obsession.

With fame and money.



Seek both, and see what eventually happens.

[Dappleganger]

63. Get real.

All the man did was rent a fucking house. It's not like he stuck a bug in Bristol's room or hit on Sarah in the driveway.

[philly_bob]

64. In another thread, I objected to McGinnis' tactics.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8449871&mesg_id=8450297

[WeDidIt]

68. Wow, I'll let the neighbors on either side of me know

they have crossed a line of civility, propriety and professionalism.

Yep, by your logic, my neighbors are invading my privacy.

Thanks for letting me know the new standard.

[tammywammy]

70. I have chain link between me and my neighbors on each side

OMG! I did see my neighbor out mowing his lawn the other day while I was in the kitchen! I hope they don't sue me.

:scared:

[MyUncle]

72. Are they Tweeting, Blogging or writing a book about you?

If they were.... oh never mind.....

[tammywammy]

73. I'll repeat what I said above

He's done absolutely nothing to violate her privacy. She's the one that took a clandestine photo of him and posted it on the Internet, not the other way around. And there's absolutely zero evidence of him doing any peeping or stalking of Palin. He's a professional not some two-bit journalist. I'm still slightly amazed that the Oxford house didn't bother her, but this does.

[mkultra]

78. Palin makes herself a public figure

That means her life is public.

[kestrel91316]

113. Half the people in America probably tweet or blog or gossip or

write old-fashioned letters sent by snail mail about their fucking neighbors. It never HAS been an invasion of privacy to do so.

If Sarah doesn't want what logically comes with self-aggrandisement, why is she STILL engaging in it??

When you spend your days shouting, "Look at me!!! Look at me!!!! Look at me!!!!", you have no right to complain when they do so.

[cherokeeprogressive]

71. Dude, that's a BOLD statement on Obsessed-with-Palin Underground...

[LiberalFighter]

76. You need to keep up to date with the facts about the story.

The reason it doesn't pass the smell test is because Palin makes a stink about everything.

[Cha]

94. +1

[Myrina]

79. ... would you say the same if it was a creepy fundie pro-Palin author?

Would she be complaining as loudly if it were someone from Murdoch's empire that she knew was going to write a glowing bullshit story about her and her weird family? Doubt it.

[Bluenorthwest]

80. Palin is a celebrity and TV personality

She is not an elected nor Party official, she in fact, specifically quit that job to become an 'author' and do TV. This is part of the way of celebrity life. Most media figures live in areas that either others can not afford, or that are co-opt controlled, or they buy both sides of them. You do not get to draw a circle around some random house and declare it your territory.
She's a media hype celebrity. She should be paying him to write about her. That is the stock in trade of the 'famous for being famous' set.
She's being paid tons. She has no need to live with a house so close to hers that she herself does not own. In Alaska, she can not find privacy, with millions of dollars? If that is the case, she is stupider than I thought she was.

[iamthebandfanman]

81. I support his right to live anywhere he wants

but i think its odd too.

whatever floats his boat tho, its a free country after all... so we are told... lol

i personally wouldnt have done it.

[proud2BlibKansan]

82. Oh good gawd, he's writing a book about her and that is not a crime

And of course he would want to live nearby.

This is just faux outrage. Or poutrage.

[and-justice-for-all]

83. I do not hate Pailn.....

Hate is a very strong word and one that is most commonly used by baggers, pukes and the like.

I dislike Palin, but I do not hate her.

[Name removed]

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[Arkana]

85. Joe's an author trying to get close to his subject.

What EXACTLY about that do you find objectionable?

Go ahead, I'm all ears.

[golfguru]

86. The only thing is this is giving more publicity to Palin

The best strategy is to IGNORE the quitter from Wasila.

[DeschutesRiver]

88. Palin said she had what it takes to be president of my country, should McCain drop dead

So this kind of thing shouldn't even show up on her radar - should be small potatoes. Every single place she goes, every speech she gives, she has a following that borders on being stalkers, who follow her every move, up close and personal. She handles that just fine.

She is a public figure, who doesn't own the piece of private property next door to her, and it isn't an invasion of privacy. And no, other than finding it humorous, I wouldn't be at all offended if this happened to someone I really liked and supported.

The kind of people I find competent to hold higher office are able to handle stuff like this without cracking up, like Palin is. If this threw them off their feed, I'd drop my support. Politics is an extreme sport, it isn't for sissies, and it has always been so. That is the major problem Sister Sarah has - she has no capacity for handling any kind of pressure.

And I'll also add that I am still packing a grudge against her for putting Obama, and even his entire family at risk for some psycho shooting them, by her provocations and smack talk to a bunch of trigger happy supporters. I'd hardly have a shred of sympathy for that same person merely because she is convinced that an author renting a house next door even comes close to what she was hoping would happen to Obama and his family.

I would like to see her as uncomfortable as possible, and if this is what makes her feel that way, then I hope it lasts quite awhile. I do understand where you are coming from on this, and actually, if Palin was a private citizen, I would be in agreement with you.

[RedRoses323]

114. +1

:headbang:

[Vinca]

90. I don't see anything wrong with it other than it gives Mooseburger

something to carp about. If the house is for rent, anyone can rent it. It's not like a dozen sex offenders moved in for a rehab program that includes watching the Palin kids.

[KansasVoter]

91. Wow, total fail by you!

[RamboLiberal]

92. I kind of agree with you

I do find it a bit creepy. But then again that is his right since that is his right and the owner was pissed off at the Palin's and wanted to get back at them.

I will though be interested in his book.

I'd find it equally creepy if any of the RW writers moved in next to the Obama's or any other Dem figure.

When it comes to doing books though the RW scuzzballs make a damn living out of half-assed books first about the Clintons now about Obama. Haven't seen any against Michelle yet though I wouldn't bet against them, but they sure have a bunch against Obama.

[Cha]

95. Transcript from Joe McGinniss on today show with matt the mat.

Cross post GD..quite revealing on exactly why Joe McGinniss is the one who needs defending.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8467142

[Blue_In_AK]

96. Thanks, Cha

I'm so glad Joe McGinniss did this interview. People need to understand what's really going on here.

[Cha]

97. Thank you, Blue!~

[XOKCowboy]

98. Rec'ing that post!

and definitely unrecing this post. Stalker? Give me a break.

[Cha]

117. Thank you, too bad those who need to read it the most..

are calling him a stalker and buying palin's victimhood lies.

[GentryDixon]

122. Did you notice how Matt was trying to bring

it back to "Sarah the victim". But Joe did get his licks in. Matt was most likely not liking that interview.

[Orsino]

99. I admire contrariness, but not when it descends to perversity.

Wake me when McGinnis does something the other neighbors don't.

Journalism is not punishment--except for bullshitters and crooks--and Palin has never been the victim she's claimed to be.

[onpatrol98]

101. I don't think its journalism...I think its unprofessional.

I don't think its journalism...I think its unprofessional. The man is behaving like a stalker. To me, he's no different from any other person who takes up some fascination with a person and tries to be near them. The only real difference is he knows how to put together a credible book.

She should move. I have no doubt he'll follow her. That's what stalkers do.

Someone only interested for journalistic pursuits could have written books about her without wanting to be "close" to her - 24/7.

I'm sorry. CREEP ALERT!!!

He just knows he doesn't have to hide his fascination because we're not fond of Palin. So, he gets a media pass to be near his latest fascination.

She should definitely move. She's made millions because of America's strange fascination, she can afford it. Forget the optics. You really can't take chances with people like this.

He could be totally harmless and just wanting to pimp her popularity for some more money of his own...or he could become the type that being next door wouldn't be close enough for him. He'll want to "purposely" bump into her to get a reaction. Or, watch her children enter their school. It could be about power and control.

[onpatrol98]

102. Too Creepy

Joe McGinniss Gets Old-School With Sarah PalinIn defense of a journalist's stalking of a politician.
By Jack Shafer

McGinniss' previous demonstration of overreach in pursuit of a story was to bid all the way to $60,101 in a charity auction on eBay last year for dinner with Palin before dropping out.

http://www.slate.com/id/2255087/

[Orsino]

104. I can't convict him, even in my mind, for what he hasn't done yet.

I'm sure the Palins are uncomfortable with the idea of journalistic scrutiny, and will pimp the meme of McGinnis as voyeur/molester to sell their victimhood and to deflect criticism, but so far he doesn't seem to have actually done any of the things you're imagining/predicting.

We don't know that McGinnis "wants to be close to her 24/7," and as I've opined elsewhere, I do see a little journalistic value in soaking up the vibe of the neighborhood. Palin would be the first to whine about being taken out of context, after all.

I'll agree with you this far: moving next door to one's subject is at least potentially creepy. I would hope that McGinnis can stand a little scrutiny himself as he does something nearly unique in journalism. We can bet, for example, that the Palins will hire a private investigator of their own--and up to a point, there's nothing wrong with that.

[onpatrol98]

105. I can.

That's not journalistic scrutiny. That's either simply a creepy fascination or an opportunity to pimp her and her family for more profit. To me...it's simply individual corporatimistic (new word alert!) behavior.

Personally, I feel similarly about Palin. She pimped her vice presidential nomination for profit. Now, he's pimping her profit and recognition for himself for more profit.

It's not to inform the public. It's to make a buck. You don't have to move next door to people to "soak up" the vibe of the neighborhood.

It may not be unique to journalism. Perhaps, all the great writers, bought houses near the people they wanted to write books about and attempted to buy dates with them. Or...maybe I'm thinking about an episode of Law and Order. Anyhoo...dude is creepy. To me, he makes the paparazzi look just a wee bit more classy.

As UNIMPRESSED as I am with Palin...I would be the first to whine about stalker boy moving in next door to me and my family and people pretending its journalism.

Put a lock on your underwear drawer.

[Orsino]

111. You are reading his mind.

I don't doubt that McGinnis would like to sell as many books as he can, but I'll only judge him for what he does in pursuit of that goal.

[onpatrol98]

123. I agree...

I can only judge him for what he's done in pursuit of his goal.

[CBGLuthier]

103. in America, we are free to live where we want. Take your outrage elsewhere

[onpatrol98]

106. America

Since we're in America, doesn't that mean we're free to be outraged. Even if nothing becomes of it.

[kestrel91316]

107. Logic FAIL. Moving into a house nextdoor does not constitute

an invasion of privacy in any way, shape, or form.

But I think you knew that. And thank you for your concern, lol.

[Ikonoklast]

116. As if any one knows *exactly* what is going on in their immediate neighbors home.

I defy anyone to extend their right to privacy over another person's property.

I though right-wingers and Teabaggers were real big on property rights...I guess that just means their own.

Tawd's pre-emptive foray onto my property to inform me that I might be met with force would have got him arrested in my town.

[southernyankeebelle]

115. Hold on. Go to palingate.com and read for once what is going on. Palin is lying.

[GoneOffShore]

120. The domain is parked - there is nothing there.

Good try though.

[tammywammy]

127. Link

http://palingates.blogspot.com/

[ItNerd4life]

119. Pretty sick that people don't agree with you.

You stated it well and if roles were reversed I pretty much would guarantee all the people supporting Joe would
be howling in protest if Rush Limbaugh or the like moved in next door to some Democrat so he could 'write' a book
on them.

Pretty sad when people make it hard to tell the good guys from the bad guys isn't it?

[hobbit709]

129. Limbaugh is not by any stretch of the truth, a "Journalist"

McGinnis is an actual journalist.

[Cha]

137. No, it isn't "sick" at all...we have the facts.

[GentryDixon]

121. Nonsense.

Sarah the perpetual victim caused all the stir. She invaded his privacy by posting a picture of him on her Facebook page and insinuating he was "looking into her daughters bedroom". She is more concerned about getting any type of press than she has ever demonstrated regarding her children. She uses them as props in her never ending search for the next media story.

She has unleashed her hateful minions without a care to the safety of this man or his family. She is a disgusting piece of work that deserves not one whit of sympathy.

I fear your concern is misplaced.

[harry_pothead]

126. Did he not pull out when he promised because the phone startled him?

[WeekendWarrior]

128. What, does he have a telescope trained on her or something?

Give me a break. He can live wherever the hell he wants to live.

[Are_grits_groceries]

130. Palin has been using her kids forever on the main stage.

Piper is with her wherever she goes and Trig isn't far behind. That doesn't make her right. I have no doubt that having the youngest kids with her may be desirable and maybe better for them in some ways. But on stage constantly???

However, she always has them glued to her side and out front. She doesn't seem to have much respect for privacy for them. People are constantly seeing as much as McGinnis will probably see.

Unless he has the house bugged and has cameras trained on them, he is a neighbor. If he writes about how they mow the grass or what clothes they wear, then he will look more than silly.

Her behavior towards him has already shown him a great deal about her character. That was more insight that he got directly from her than he would have gotten second hand by talking to other people. McGinnis could watch her house closely for months and never have that much direct knowledge.

She exposed part of her character. He didn't have to glean anything to get that.

[onpatrol98]

135. Exposed his own character...

I think he exposed his own character. I already knew everything I wanted to know about Palin. Nothing. Before this, I wasn't as familiar with McGinnis. Now, I think he's either a celebrity pimp or a stalker. This didn't lower my opinion of Palin. That would have been a short drop, anyway. But, the next time I see his name next to a book, I won't take it seriously. He'll forever be that creepy guy that moved next door to Palin.

[HipChick]

131. Fuck Sarah Palin...

[spiritual_gunfighter]

132. Palin is probably my least favorite person in the country.

But McGinnis moving in next door to her is creepy and she has a right to feel like she is being stalked.

[Cha]

138. And, she has a right to lie about him on her stupid facebook.

[fishwax]

139. moving next door to someone is invading their privacy?

[Cha]

141. It is if you believe palin's nasty lies on facebook.

[MadMaddie]

142. Sorry Palin is the one that insists on putting herself out there

everyday commenting on everything. She doesn't go on any other station other than Faux, no one is ever allowed to challange her lies.

She has placed herself as this exemplerary person and has invited people into her life. She scrutinizes everyone else so she has made herself fair game for anyone to validate if she is telling the truth. Her arrogance has allowed her to believe that she shouldn't be scrutinized.

[DailyGrind51]

145. So, I would not have a right to write a biography of my next door neighbor?

[MyUncle]

148. Bill Maher agrees with me, I feel validated.

He said what McGinnis did was "creepy". Bill Maher does not like Sarah Palin, but he has a great deal of empathy for the cost of being a public figure.