The Democratic Party: FAIL!!! Corporate America: EPIC FAIL!!!

[Bullet1987]

Ladies and Gentlemen...witness the major flaw of the 2-party system. Where both parties have sold us out and Congress passing real reform is as highly unlikely as a rookie breaking Tom Brady's single season TD record (50). We live in a country full of paid off politicians. Paid by Wall Street, oil companies, health insurance companies, the military, the Israel lobby, the prison-industrial complex, everyone but US. Every powerful interest group has the ear of Democratic and Republican politicians except US!! I remember the good ole days when the Dems were the Party of the Working Family...of the People. Now I see that was all a facade, like a mirage in the desert. Barack Obama is not the cause of any of these problems, but he is completely powerless to fix it. Period! When you have corporate America breathing down your neck day in and day out...you can't even criticize them the way they should be. I believe Obama is in a dangerous place politically. He knows how pissed off people are (more now than ever), but he also knows he's not going to do anything remotely along the lines that would really fix so many problems.

Corporate America is going to destroy this world...LOOONG before Muslims ever have a chance to! There will never be WW3. That's a popular myth pushed by the Right. Global corporations have too much to lose in a global war. It'll stay localized, and against enemies that can't properly defend themselves (Iraq, Afghanistan, etc). We don't live in a capitalist Democracy, instead we live in a corptocratic/plutocratic soft dictatorship. That may sound alarmist to some, but yes instead of being slaves to communism, socialism, or fascism (or any other -ism), we are slaves to an economic dictatorship. One that has stolen from us like a thief in the night, no explanation why, no tracking the money, no sign we'll ever get it back. It's criminal highway robbery and our elected "leaders" are either unwilling, uncaring, or afraid of challenging Corporate America. That my friends, is a dictatorship unlike any we've seen before. We have lost more liberties in the past 10 years than ever in this nation's history. Major surveillance operations are being carried out IN AMERICA in order to "keep us safe." You can thank AT&T, Google, Youtube, Facebook, or any of the other popular things we use for that one (the first two especially have been caught red-handed). The War on Drugs and unjust marijuana laws have seen the imprisonment of millions of men and women and the rise of a dark, private prison complex (corporate America strikes again). For years we've been told that what's good for corporate America is good for this country...who now believes that? Name ONE way corporate America has helped a majority of the American people. Where the pros outweigh the cons. What has Wall Street done for Main Street lately? This country is MUCH worse off than people realize, and I fear it'll take something really dramatic and crazy to pull folks from their homes and put them protesting in the streets.

[geek tragedy]

1. "The good ole days" never existed.

The Democratic party has always had severe, deep moral flaws.

[Cha]

2. Your post=FAIL.

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[HiFructosePronSyrup]

12. Agreed

[Jennicut]

3. It is a two party system or a coalition parliamentary type govt.

The other type sometimes is not much better.

[Radical Activist]

4. Corporations are more regulated today than they were two years ago.

It's true for finance, the auto industry, energy industry, insurance, credit cards and more. Progress is happening. Yes, I know it isn't enough. Of course it isn't a complete overhaul of the capitalist system. But progress is happening, and the question is whether we're going to keep the momentum going. Dogmatic, apocalyptic thinking probably won't help.

[Bullet1987]

5. I'm just being a realist of the situation. Our leaders have failed us as a nation

[Radical Activist]

7. It sounds more like generalized anxiety than realism. n/t

[Bullet1987]

8. So what did I say that you disagree with?? Since it's supposedly generalized...

[Big Blue Marble]

20. You are dreaming when you say that Corps are better regulated.

First they are infiltrated into every regulatory agency you can name.
Second, they are intimately involved in any "regulatory reform" that gets through congress i. e. the health care legislation.
The main accomplishment of the health care bill is to funnel more tax payer and consumer money into the broken
system of insurance and medical services.

The corporations hold all the levers of power and any "progress" you see is illusionary or at best around the edges.
Unless these facts change, the OP is right we will go down.

[Catherina]

9. Rec'd n/t

[Bullet1987]

14. You know that's not going to work with this thread lol

[jefferson_dem]

10. Didn't you intend to say "The Democrat Party: FAIL!!!..."?

:shrug:

Sorry, I quit reading at the "...passing real reform" part. If you think the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is not "real reform"... you are beyond the point of rational discussion, in my opinion. If you think there's no difference between the Democratic and Republican parties of today...even moreso.

[Bullet1987]

13. So I'm a Republican now??

It's amazing how sensitive people get in this section when someone criticizes their beloved Democratic Party. I think there's a difference between the EXTREMES of the parties. Even though we have more in common if you think about it and stop perpetuating this fake Left/Right paradigm. Liberals are no better off economically than Tea Partiers. The difference is in who we blame and how we want to fix it. At the center of both parties though is a corporate core. This the the core that any President whether Dem or Repug will come from. There may be slight differences depending on the letter, but our foreign policy isn't changing no matter WHO is in office. If you believe that, then it's YOU who is not rational. Not just foreign policy either, a lot of domestic policy is not changing either no matter who is in office. The only difference I see is that a Democrat may ACT like he/she cares. Republicans just don't give a damn and are full-fledged corporatists to the core.

It says something that both "extremes" seem to be rebelling against their party leadership. Moreso Republicans than Democrats. I think folks have lost faith in both parties. 2008 was supposed to be when the Progressive Revolution started, so much for that dream because it never even got off the ground and was never going to with our New Democrat/DLC/Corporate leadership.

[jefferson_dem]

17. I do agree with much of this.

Voters are frustrated. That's for sure. But I would argue that's because people have been fooled into conflating the two parties into one monolithic corrupt enterprise, just as you've done here. Sorry. There are major differences between Dems and Reps, in terms of policy, process, and supposed loyalty to "corporate America". That's the reality whether you choose to publicly acknowledge it or not.

I appreciate your concern and all but ... who, exactly, promised you a "Progressive Revolution" anyway?

Oh, I never called you a Republican. :)

[uponit7771]

15. Bitching and not working for a more progresive congress = bigger fail.

[Bullet1987]

16. I'm joining the same Progressive coalition that put together the March on Wall Street

I'm tired of the voting ploy. It's too slow and it's not going to change anything...and more times than not you're not even going to get a real Progressive with a chance in hell of toppling whatever DLCer the White House stands behind anyway. The problem is the system, not those in office who may come in with noble purposes...but are quickly overcome by the money thrown around by corporate lobbyists. I'm getting involved with people who are ready to take it to the streets. F**k a vote lol.

[jefferson_dem]

18. Take it to the streets?

:spray: Good luck with that.

I'm glad others here will ignore that advice and actually VOTE (DEMOCRATIC) in November. You can "free ride" along...if you like.

[dionysus]

19. ROFL... diatribes on a message board, real hero... have fun on the "streets" pal...

:rofl:

[Big Blue Marble]

21. The Democratic Party as every other institution in our government no

longer serves the people. It serves the corporations as we are all to do.

The multi-national corporate structure has become the main organizing principle of our extremely complex society. How would
we unwind them without destabilizing vast aspects of our economy is the basic question. This was the issue that faced our government
when the financial corporations faltered.

It is important to remember that every powerful system that has ever held sway over humanity has collapsed brought down ultimately
by its own internal corruption. This time it is different because we are running out of time.

Individually we do have the responsibility to be as aware as we can be, to make choices in our daily lives that are informed by our
knowledge and to share our understanding with others. Because I do know that if change is to be brought, it will only come
when millions of us around the planet demand that change.