Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

If you give away the public option, what do you get? (Ezra Klein)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:51 PM
Original message
If you give away the public option, what do you get? (Ezra Klein)
I have always been a strong supporter of the public option, but, after so much watering down, I am starting to wonder if it still means something.

This is why I was wondering about what Ezra Klein is proposing here. Rather than continuing to watering it down to a point where it does not mean anything in order to gain votes, why not try actually get something valuable in exchange from it? It used to be what negotiation meant: i do something for you if you do something for us.

(Granted, the GOP leadership does not want ANY bill to pass, but should they not at least try?)

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2009/12/if_you_give_away_the_public_op.html


If you give away the public option, what do you get?

Most of the energy in the Senate right now is being directed into a mad rush for compromise proposals on the public option. This reflects the sense that the right compromise on the public option is a compromised public option. That's true to an extent, but you can define the public option so far downward -- a state-based, opt-in, trigger-dependent, nonprofit option, for instance, is seriously under consideration right now -- that you'd be better off trading it away for something that's more meaningful.

Candidates on that score would be a few hundred billion more in subsidies, a national exchange that's open to larger businesses, and tighter rating rules governing how much insurers can discriminate against people of different ages and demographic characteristics. The first would do more than a really weak public option to increase affordability, the second would do more to increase choice, and the third would just be a good idea. Having something called a public option is not, in the end analysis, as important as achieving the goals of the public option, and at this point, the policy itself is getting so watered down that it might be worth attempting to achieve its goals in a more straightforward fashion.

So far, I've not heard anyone discuss a deal along these lines. The horse-trading over the public option is taking place entirely in terms of the public option, and not in terms of the broader health-care bill. That strategy made sense for trying to keep the public option alive, but if the votes aren't there, that may not be the right strategy for letting it die.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:52 PM
Response to Original message
1. you get shit
and any fucking thinking person knows this
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 03:54 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. But you're getting shit right now. You will get a public option in name only.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. oh I know that
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat Apr 20th 2024, 06:39 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC