President Obama who a little less than a year ago was candidate Obama

[Top Cat]

Is getting very little support here on DU... I can remember during the campaign when most of us were in his corner. What has happened to change so many minds? Some of the same truth fighters are still in his corner but my god can we give him a little credit.

President Obama needs our support more now than before. I'm not saying we have to agree with everything he does but I'm seeing way to many post just slamming every move he makes.

Just my viewpoint...

[bigjohn16]

1. 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan. nt

[Top Cat]

10. He's damn if he do and damn if he does nothing... What would you have him do?

[bigjohn16]

14. Start drawing down US ground forces.

Use special forces to monitor any possible Al qaeda activity and either capture/kill them or call in air strikes. End the fool's errand of using the US military to nation build in a country with no national identity.

[Go2Peace]

29. It has become evident Obama does not listen much to his "base", That is what changed. We didn't

expect to be ignored. It is not one policy, it is many policies, his cabinet choices, and how progressives have been often shown the door or marginalized. And indeed he is loosing many who helped his campaign.

It is just STUPID. He simply needs to throw a few bones our way, make a few fundamental changes, like cut some of the military budget or let Geitner go. But he seems not to really have much in common with progressives.

[Avalux]

28. Did you vote for him? Obama said he'd put more troops in Afghanistan during the campaign.

Anyone who voted for him shouldn't be surprised.

[bigjohn16]

33. He was wrong during the campaign and he's wrong now.

I'm not surprised and he's wrong. Afghanistan is now his quagmire.

[Avalux]

34. You didn't answer my question. n/t

[bigjohn16]

35. Yes I voted for him and he's still wrong. Sorry.

[Avalux]

36. I didn't say he was right either; no surprises though.

I voted for him knowing his views on Afghanistan.

[bigjohn16]

37. As did I that's why I'm not surprised either.

Just angry at the loss of life that will come with the President's colossal mistake.

[BootinUp]

2. Its the same cause and effect that made

the Clintons so unpopular here. Don't ask me to explain, figure it out on your own please.

[AllentownJake]

5. I think Bill Clinton's policies

did enough on its own. In fact the reason why I campaigned for Senator Obama in the primary was to prevent the Clinton economic team from coming back...what a fucking dupe I was.

[BootinUp]

6. It was the same Obama that praised those policies

in his most recent book. The only reason you were duped is because you were being optimistic. Chalk it up to human nature. Politics is the art of the possible, both Clinton and Obama are good political artists.

[AllentownJake]

8. HA

You actually believe that possible tripe

:rofl:

[BootinUp]

19. I do.

Lets not get mean over this, lol.

[stray cat]

13. who were the candidates calling for an immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan

[AllentownJake]

16. You jump into a post about economics to talk about Afghanistan

:crazy:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. In the big picture, Obama's support has changed very little.

His approval rating has always hovered just around the same percentage that voted for him, with minor recent declines being almost predominately from the moderates.

Don't confuse loud mouth internet trolls with real world human beings.

[AllentownJake]

4. Tim Geithner and Larry Summers nt.

[AndyA]

7. What has happened to change so many minds?

1. No transparency.

2. Don't Ask/Don't Tell still in effect.

3. Equality for gays is still non-existent.

4. 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan and billions more for war.

5. Wall Street got bailed out and is making profits again. What about Main Street?

6. Slow response to job situation. (No jobs, no recovery.)

7. Continuing to cover up Bushco crimes. (Obama is complicit in those crimes if he covers them up.)

And before the Obamies show up with their pom poms, yes I do give him credit for the good things he has done. Yes he is better than McSame would have been. No I do not want Palin in 2012. Yes I am a Democrat. No I am not a bitter d*uchebag.

That should about cover it. :eyes:

[polichick]

31. It's really weird the way some pretend none of this stuff matters. nt

[billh58]

9. Any POTUS/CIC

who can manage to piss off the fringe extremes on both ends of the political spectrum, MUST be doing something right. When the Far Right and the Far Left begin agreeing with each other, it's a sight to behold.

In the meantime, cooler adult heads prevail, and true Liberal Democrats and moderate Middle Americans of all stripes continue to support President Obama, and his decisions to date. The fickle Far-Left is once again threatening to pout and stamp their feet if they don't get instant gratification and a big hug. Nothing new to see here folks, move along...

[AllentownJake]

11. Yes the centrist policies of the past 30 years have led us to the promised land

:rofl:

[JVS]

The future is so bright that wearing shades isn't enough. Eye gouging is necessary.

[stray cat]

12. I thought more DUers were informed voters but evidently they were not

they did not even know where the major candidates stood on Afghanistan. Actually, who were the candidates calling for an immediate withdrawal from Afghanistan - I know Hillary and Obama were not for an immediate withdrawal.

[Top Cat]

18. I agree with you

[tblue]

15. Obama is not our victim.

We didn't just pull our opinons out of a hat. Look, I "support" Pres. Obama. I am rooting hard for him. This, even though I disagree with a lot of what he does, and who's fault is that? Obama alone can control a lot of the opinion you read here about him. He's not a child and he's not the Baby Jesus. We are not obliged to coddle or worship him. What you might perceive as "slamming" I think of as freaking out that Obama is blowing it for the country, for his supporters, and for his own reelection chances. It's called tough love.

[Writer]

17. The problem is that - for some - totalistic thinking is confronting material realities.

They want to see a particular ideology carried out to its very end and in all ways possible. The fact that other minds exist in the world, and have an influence within a democratic setting, means little to them. Ideal A as mediated through Complicated Process B will never yield Reality A, but instead a reformed version of the original ideal. This is the problem that some are having with Clinton, Obama, and other Democrats that actually make it into the WH. They want to see the automatic realization of an ideal, process be damned, with no thought on the unforeseen consequences of that ideal automatically realized. That's why "compromise" is a dirty word for some of these folks.

To be very honest, they do not wish for a democracy but for a Democratic dictatorship. One-party rule.

[Writer]

21. If I may add: Another issue is that I think some assume his Afghan War decision to be...

ideological. It's not. It's pragmatic based on the best alternative out of several very ugly options. He's not trying to achieve some stupid abstract goal like Bush did; however, he is trying to wind the war down responsibly.

[Top Cat]

22. Thanks you well said...

[jeanpalmer]

20. If you keep supporting someone

who makes the wrong decision, what will ever motivate him to change? If he were getting 100% support in his decision to escalate the war, why would he ever change? Seems to me the way to get him to get him to change is to withhold support. If all we do is kiss his ass and tell him how wonderful he is, we're fked.

[JVS]

23. "President Obama needs our support more now than before"

How? He's not up for election for 3 years. Is it really necessary to maintain a constant election mode on DU?

Anyway, if he needs support here, he should earn it.

[Top Cat]

24. Exactly

[Go2Peace]

32. +1

[question everything]

25. What did you expect?

He was not my first choice, not even second or third but, of course, I voted for him and I support him.

However it was clear that during the campaigns many projected on him their own wishes and desires. He really had "a speech" and he was charismatic and young and full of optimism and hope and he attracted many young people - who normally disdain politics - and older ones who felt the excited with Kennedy (Jack or Robert).

But no one could be everything for everyone and it was clear, almost as soon as he got the nomination.

And for the ones who wish they never voted for him: do they really wish McCain and Palin in the White House? Do they really wish more Thomases and Scalias on the Supreme Court?

Do they really wish an administration that tells the unemployed and the ones who lost their homes and health care to.."pull themselves by their boot straps?"

[Clio the Leo]

26. Seems to be a pretty easy concept to grasp. NT

[HughMoran]

27. Why, we don't need no stinkin' healthcare

right?

Why would we work with our President to get the biggest reform in 6 decades when we can rip him to shreds for being imperfect?

[Cha]

30. Pres Obama is laser focused

on what he's set out to do and there are a lot of people who support that.

It's a rough road right now but it won't always be that way.

[angee_is_mad]

38. Guess they were waiting

to come out of the woodworks. Bless their souls.

Fired uo and Ready to Go!!!

K&R