Wow -- Susan Rice and Rachel Maddow -- the most substantial discussion I've seen so far re Afghan.

[Sparkly]

Very probing, advanced discussion -- a super-smart, knowledgeable woman questioning another super-smart, knowledgeable woman who's inside the administration.

More coming after the break....

[polichick]

1. Yep - great stuff! nt

[Loge23]

2. Best policy TV I may have ever seen (eom)

[napi21]

3. Both Susan & Rachel are great. Very intelligent women who

know how to explain things.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. I've never seen Susan Rice before --

Very impressive discussion. So much better than the usual bloviating and shouting you mostly get on cable shows.

[Ineeda]

11. I saw her participating in a round table Af-Pak discussion

at the convention. I don't even remember who else was there, she impressed me so much. I knew that if Obama got the nomination, she'd be a valuable resource for him and our country.

[Clio the Leo]

16. The President knows how to pick them.

It's moments like that, in the middle of all of the back and forth we do here, that help me sleep at night. lol

[AllentownJake]

20. Sometimes

This is one of his better picks.

[Clio the Leo]

22. ha ha......

.... you KNOW I thought about you when I wrote that. ;)

[MissMarple]

5. I am so happy I TIVO Rachel. She is so smart....and cogent. Charlie Rose thinks so, too.

:applause:

on edit: How do you screw up a smiley?

[SeattleGirl]

6. Agreed!

They are both great!

[Botany]

8. Susan Rice is better than Condi Rice

:dunce:

[givemebackmycountry]

13. Uncle Bens Rice is better than...

You know who.

[Cha]

15. And, that's awful stuff.

[wisteria]

7. I agree. n/t

[Misskittycat]

9. Wonderful discussion. n/t

[Sparkly]

10. Pardon me for replying to my own post, but I gotta say that was AWESOME!!

I just saw the rest of it. This is EXACTLY what we need more of on teevee. I could just pore over that transcript.

I wish Maddow and Rice could have that kind of discussion on a weekly basis. THAT was informative!! (I'm gonna write to MSNBC and suggest it.)

:applause:

[Clio the Leo]

18. By all means.....

.... if ever a thread was worthy of a little self-kicking, it's this one!

[Cha]

19. You are most certainly allowed

to reply on your own OP.

Thank you and Nancy Waterman(you both posted at the same time) who has an OP on Susan Rice being on Rachel's show too.

[Loge23]

12. Very strong segment

Susan Rice needs to get out more.
What a eloquent debater. Also kudos to Secy. Rice for one of the most candid policy discussions I have ever seen on TV - and I've been around awhile!

[Clio the Leo]

14. That is the ONE bit of information I'd refer a critic of the deployment to...

.... she offered an explanation to every doubt.

Good job to BOTH women. They do our party proud!

[ShortnFiery]

17. This discussion was about escalating an occupation, not about the democratic party's

image? How damn superficial can we be? :eyes:

[Cha]

21. I can't wait to see it with what everyone

is saying about it!

[Gregorian]

23. Can we please get more people in Congress like Rachel.

She asked some very important questions. One of which made me angry at the Obama admin. They don't need a safe haven. Meaning, even when they're all gone, UNLESS WE CHANGE, they will still be ready to start over somewhere else.

The war on terror is about US. Not them. At least that is what I took away from it implicitly.

Rachel has always spoke for me on every subject.

edti- Spoken. Spokes are part of a bicycle wheel. :)

[Clio the Leo]

24. You're right....

.... about Rachel. Just watching today's House hearing is further proof that you dont have to have a lot of smarts to make it to the US Congress.

As for the "they dont need a safe haven" part. What did you think about Ambassador Rice's answer? (that aq is able to grow stronger when they have a country who's government enables them.)

And do you feel that ALL of progress that the President has made on the international front has been wiped out by this decision?

[Gregorian]

25. I noticed something about Amb. Rice when she answered.

She was agitated. The kind of thing I would expect from a Bush admin. official. It may just be a natural reaction to a difficult question.

I don't agree that governments have anything to do with Al Qaeda's growth. In that respect I would expect more of that kind of thing in America, given Limbaugh's kind of talk. We have permanent fixtures in this country that oppose progressive agendas. What I really mean is it's a grass roots kind of growth, not top down. People don't fly planes into buildings for no reason. What I really really mean is that the war on terror is about US, not them. Terror will cease when we change. We really ought to pay for what we use. But we like to drop bombs in lieu of actual payment. I don't think that's too general a statement. Look at our history, from the taming of this country on down the line.

Obama hasn't lost my trust. Not yet. I don't know why he escalated. And I disagree with the action. But there could be things we don't see yet. Maybe he's playing poker with Pakistan. It seems like an expensive game, playing with soldier's lives. I disagree with it. But maybe it's the lesser of evils. I just don't know. But we will know shortly.

[Cha]

26. I didn't think she was anymore

agitated than Rachel. I thought Susan Rice did an excellent job of explaining what was going on.

[Clio the Leo]

28. If you're talking about her answers to the Pakistan part.....

.... I think I know what you're talking about. I dont know that I'd say it was "the kind of thing I'd expect from a Bush admin" because I know these are two completely different groups of people with two completely different operating philosophies ... so I'd have a hard time getting them confused. ;)

That being said .... I think it was the latter ... it was a difficult question that is not easily explainable.

I'm sad though that you still feel "I dont know why he escalated" because between what HE said last night and what SHE said tonight .... they laid it all out.

Now, one could disagree with their reasoning .... but anyone who really took the time to listen two both of those cant say that dont understand why.

[ginnyinWI]

29. I didn't see agitation, and I watched it twice.

I thought she enjoyed having a smart discussion with a smart interviewer. Rachael actually flubbed a few words--I think she was the nervous one. I do hope she comes back again--that was a great discussion.

[madamesilverspurs]

27. Does Maddow make transcripts available?

If so I'll swing by the library and print it out. Dialup sucks, sometimes.

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[mzmolly]

30. Is it youtubed?

:shrug:

[Turborama]

32. Hi mzmolly, I've added it to the videos forum with the full transcript

:hi:

[mzmolly]

33. Awesome

thanks! :hi:

[mzmolly]

31. Found video ~

http://www.rumproast.com/index.php/site/comments/rachel_maddow_vs._susan_rice_on_afghanistan/