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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:07 AM
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Jul. 14, Warren comments on new consumer agency. Also, there is a new Geithner outrage

Warren Says Consumer Agency Will Have `Teeth' to Fix Credit

By Lorraine Woellert and Betty Liu

Elizabeth Warren, the Harvard University professor credited with conceiving the consumer financial-protection regulator, said the agency included in the Wall Street rules overhaul will have “a lot of teeth.”

The agency, which will combine consumer watchdogs from several regulators into a central bureau at the Treasury Department, may change the way credit cards, mortgages and other debt are sold, Warren said today in an interview on Bloomberg Television’s “In the Loop with Betty Liu.”

“It has a lot of capacity to reshape the consumer credit market in a way that just works, becomes a real functioning market again, a market where consumers can see the products and say, ‘Oh, that’s how much it costs that’s how much risk is associated with it,’ and make comparisons,” she said.

Warren, who is serving as chairman of the congressional panel overseeing the Troubled Asset Relief Program, has been touted as a possible head of the new regulator by Representative Barney Frank, the Massachusetts Democrat who led lawmakers in crafting the rewrite of financial-industry regulation. She declined to say whether she’d be interested in the job.

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The blogs are buzzing about a report that Geithner opposes Warren as head of the new consumer bureau based on this report. The report has no information in it about what Geither said, nothing recent, just a lot of speculation and this opening paragraph:

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has expressed opposition to the possible nomination of Elizabeth Warren to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, according to a source with knowledge of Geithner's views.


The curious thing is that no one even knows if Warren is in the running. No one knows if she wants the job. No one knows what Geithner allegedly said in opposition to something that hasn't been announced.

Interestingly, the rumor that sparked the outrage is coming from someone who opposed the bill. The outrage is being fanned mostly by people who deemed the bill worthless.

Also, why would people care that Geithner is opposing Warrren to head a consumer bureau they've determined is worthless?



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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:19 AM
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1. Where do you find the time?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:23 AM
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3. What does that post have to do with consumer protection
and helping protect consumers from corporate predators?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:28 AM
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4. A rumor about Geithner opposing Warren is of value
What Warren has to say, not so much.

LOL!

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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 11:24 AM
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17. dreams of being the post police?
:rofl:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 12:58 PM
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26. I don't know, you would have to ask him directly
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:42 AM
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7. where do you?
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:44 AM
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8. huh? where do you? n/t
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 10:04 AM
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13. Say what? did you seriously ask that?
:rofl: oh my GOD that has got to be, the kettle meet pot winner of the week
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 10:06 AM
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14. You seem to have a lot of time on your hands, BS.
:shrug:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 12:00 PM
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23. More objections to other posters' posts?
Where do you find the time?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 12:03 PM
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:24 PM
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31. Kettle meet Pot. ~sigh~ n/t
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:22 AM
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2. Great article Prosense, thanks for sharing
It's always good to be armed with knowledge and the facts when dealing with weaselly right wingers.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 11:30 AM
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18. Oh that's great. Thanks for the laugh.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 12:04 PM
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25. whats that supposed to mean jake?
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:31 PM
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28. Never mind. Sorry to intrude.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:33 AM
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:33 AM
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6. She should be
An outrage would be if she wasn't "in the running" i.e. being considered. She should probably be the leading contender. Admittedly, she may have been trying to keep herself out of the running, or advancing her own candidate. But Timmy should be the last person with any say about it.
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:46 AM
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9. Oh, i always get me news from HuffPost.
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 09:46 AM by impik
Not.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:52 AM
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11. Yes, Huff Post, home of the sensational headline
... with no story to back it up.

As well as front-page headlines that are of incredible interest to the nation. Take today alone: "Chad Ochocinco Gambles in His Underwear." "Ellen Page Peed in Bucket." "You Don't Have to Live with PMS." "Lohan Topless."

It makes the supermarket tabloids look like the New York Times.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:55 AM
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12. That's a pretty accurate take on the Huffington Post
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:48 AM
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10. Elizabeth Warren is the only person in the administration
that I trust. It is that simple. She should have the most authoritative job we can put her in, until we can elect her to be President of the United States as far as I'm concerned. Timmy should go work for some accounting firm. Or go suck eggs, or whatever it is he does for fun.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 11:02 AM
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15. Warren isn't in the administration. n/t
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:11 PM
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40. And there you have it.
See what I did there?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 11:18 AM
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16. Uh, oh
FDL writer being criticized for dispelling rumor, check out his update.

Ass’t. Treasury Sec. Michael Barr: Elizabeth Warren “Extremely Well-Qualified” for CFPB

By: David Dayen Friday July 16, 2010

I’m on a conference call with Michael Barr, the assistant Treasury Secretary for Financial Institutions, about the Wall Street reform bill. Barr has been basically the lead at Treasury on the bill. So I asked him about this disturbing report about Timothy Geithner trying to block Elizabeth Warren from heading the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which was her brainchild.

Barr totally denied this to me. “I don’t know where that (report) came from,” he said. I asked him if he thought Warren was well-qualified for the position and if anyone at Treasury would stand in her way if she were the top choice. “I think Elizabeth is absolutely terrific,” Barr said. “She’s been working closely with me and Secretary Geithner for a year and half to push for this consumer protection bureau. I believe and Secretary Geithner believes that she’s exceptionally well-qualified to run it.”

That’s on the record now. Tim Geithner and his lead deputy at the Treasury Department think Elizabeth Warren is well-qualified to head the CFPB. It’s important that this information gets distributed far and wide.

I’ll have more on the call later, but I thought that was significant.

UPDATE: I’m a little surprised that people think I’ve been spun here. You have the Assistant Treasury Secretary on the record saying that he thinks Elizabeth Warren is exceptionally well-qualified to run the CFPB. In a way this is obvious, given that she invented the concept. But that’s useful information to have. If she doesn’t get it despite that level of regard in the Treasury Department, in Congress and among the grassroots (almost unanimous support there) then we have to conclude that the original Huffington Post article was correct. “If Geithner thought she was well-qualified, why didn’t she get the job?” would be how this goes. I think this makes it harder to deny her, since she’s such a clear choice. And in a bill that leaves so much up to the discretion of the regulators, she would shape that agency in a very positive direction.


An actual statement, pfffft!

:rofl:




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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 11:42 AM
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19. Uh oh. FireDogLake disputes Huffington Post.
Jane Hamsher vs. Arianna Huffington.

Hmm....

I might have to give this one to the FDL article over HuffPo's.

FDL got an actual quote and named their source. HuffPo didn't.


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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 11:46 AM
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20. isn't that like a competition of who has the least journalistic credibility?
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 11:52 AM by dionysus
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:12 PM
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27. +1,000,000
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 04:29 PM
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33. Ding! Ding! Ding! I wish I could give you something.
:rofl:
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Emeritus Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 11:53 AM
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22. The problem is...An aide to Warren said Geithner has ALWAYS opposed her
Edited on Fri Jul-16-10 11:54 AM by Emeritus
From MotherJones magazine:

"Says an aide to Warren, "In a way, I'm not sure (Geithner's opposition) should be such a surprise to people."

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/07/warren-v-geithner-teapot-tempest
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 11:47 AM
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21. K&R.....
But the Gang got here before I did!
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 01:35 PM
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29. Question for OP.
Are you in favor of Warren getting the job? Do you believe there is no hostility from Geithner?

If you do not favor her, why do you believe she would be a bad choice? Why do you think Geithner would not like her to hold the position?

You seem favorably inclined to the bill and so does Elizibeth Warren. Does that mean that you approve of her acquiring the position?

Thanks.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:49 PM
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41. Go ahead. Anything? Just one answer?.....anything?
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 02:12 PM
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30. Warren is a corporatist !1!1!1
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 03:44 PM
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32. It's the
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 06:47 PM
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34. How do you know this?
"Interestingly, the rumor that sparked the outrage is coming from someone who opposed the bill. The outrage is being fanned mostly by people who deemed the bill worthless." Is this fact or opinion? Who are the people fanning the outrage?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 07:13 PM
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35. The author is all about fanning outrage
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 07:24 PM
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36. How do you know that?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 08:08 PM
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37. Because
it has been denied.

Not that it's going to stop anyone from believing the rumor.



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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 08:40 PM
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38. Where?
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:56 PM
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42. Where does your link say that Nasiripour's article was a "baseless rumor"?
You're running out of spin.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-16-10 09:59 PM
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43. A claim by a single anonymous source that leads nowhere, and is denied, is a baseless rumor.
Now, if you want to trust a single anonymous source even after the rumor has been denied, go ahead.

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