When Obama does name Elizabeth Warren as head of new CPA, the response on DU will likely be:

[scheming daemons]

[NanceGreggs]

1. I'm thinking it will be the usual ...

Too little, too late.

Pretty words, no action.

I'll believe it when I see it.

He goes too far - but not far enough.

If he can accomplish THIS, why couldn't he accomplish THAT?

Another promise broken (film at eleven - at which point the alleged "promise" will be left unrevealed, but certainly alluded to).

I didn't vote for this.

I voted for this - but I've since changed my mind.

An abundance of "I really want to see him succeed - I'm just 'holding his feet to the fire'" threads.

A sprinkling (not too many, so as to be noticed) threads that start, "I supported him from the beginning, BUT ..."

Yadda, yadda, yadda.

[LoZoccolo]

2. I'm starting to realize it's all just attempted manipulation; they probably know it makes no sense.

People want to believe that they can control the government by sitting on the computer complaining, and the complaints are designed to try to convince the administration of something, except that the administration probably doesn't read DU very much. Still they carry on with this theater and distract the rest of us with it; I've been trying not to get too distracted by it anymore.

On the other hand, there's a very hard core of people who do this kind of thing away from DU (as you posted before) who may be more serious about it. They might be posturing to each other, but they might actually be under this weird impression that that kind of catastrophic politics works; if it worked then why didn't the 2000 election with Nader bring about what they wanted in 2004 or 2008?

The funny part is that every now and then I'll post something about how politics actually works, and present some kind of positive alternative or different strategic direction to this stuff that goes on here, and it will sink. I suspect the reason why is that they know it's more effective than what they are doing, but they weren't really looking for an alternative because that would require work.

[treestar]

3. I'm going with the first one

Then, when Liz makes some sort of mistake or decision they don't agree with - under the bus, the reason Obama picked her was she was a fellow corporatist, yadda, yadda, yadda.

[jefferson_dem]

4. This just proves Obama is a "korporatist"!

Somehow. Someway. The exception proves the "rule".

[Demeter]

5. To Think She Will Get the Post Is Optimistic

When there are far less qualified, younger men of the DLC persuasion available, who will gladly toe any line the President or his alter ego, Rahm Emanuel, gives them.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

6. He wont name her as the head at all.

You'll see.

[VMI Dem]

7. I thought the conventional sensibility was that she isn't qualified to create an agency from scratch

[nevergiveup]

8. Unless something comes up in vetting,

which is not likely, she has got the job. There will be a few positive posts here from the obvious ones, there will be a minimal number of responses and then we move on to some serious whining about other things. The timing at DU is also important. If she is nominated the first of the week she will do better but if it is going into the weekend Warren doesn't have a chance and she will be under the bus with Obama by Sunday evening.