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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 05:01 PM
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Live: Ed Schultz not buying White House line on Gulf Oil Spill.
Edited on Thu Aug-05-10 05:04 PM by onehandle
Talking about his visit to the White House yesterday.

Will comment shortly.

Right now he is talking about Obama Fired Up. Showing the great footage of Obama at the GM plant.

Calling on Reid to keep the Senate on the floor to extend benefits for the 99ers.



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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 05:06 PM
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1. I Thought Ed Was Going to Wait Until
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 05:17 PM
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2. Oh geez. What am i going to now?!
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 05:31 PM
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3. BP makes ludicrous claims which a third of the country
will allow themselves to believe. The administration gains credibility with a more reasonable claim but which still creates a falsely optimistic picture of the state of the catastrophe which benefits BP. Obama tacks right of the truth again.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 05:33 PM
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4. What are the scientists saying?
Edited on Thu Aug-05-10 05:33 PM by ProSense
NYT:

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But other scientists, while acknowledging that the report incorporated assumptions that could not be directly tested, found them reasonable, if not conservative. Edward B. Overton of Louisiana State University, one of the most experienced gulf researchers, said the report, if anything, might have underestimated the amount of oil that had effectively gone away or been dispersed. He expressed concern, however, that dispersed oil in the deep ocean might not break down quickly.

Jeffrey W. Short, a former federal scientist who led major studies after the Exxon Valdez disaster and now works for the environmental advocacy group Oceana, found the report plausible, over all.

The estimates in the report “are better than nothing, and probably not very far off,” he said. “They have measured all the easy stuff to measure, and the rest will be very difficult to measure if not impossible. So I suspect it is not going to get a whole lot better than this.”

The heart of the debate is the applicability, in a situation like the gulf spill, of the scientific technique known as modeling. In that approach, scientists build an elaborate computer program, incorporating numerous best guesses, to try to answer complex questions that cannot be tackled any other way.

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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 05:45 PM
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6. Oh no, not scientists.
Seriously, I am taking a wait and see attitude. Only time will tell how much oil is left and needs to be cleaned up.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 05:57 PM
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7. Can you explain to me the post title and content by the OP?
I'm not sure what's going on right now in the thread.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 10:21 PM
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8. There was an NOAA report about the amount of oil left in the Gulf
Here ya go:
US government scientists yesterday raised questions about claims of vast plumes of oil hovering beneath the surface of the Gulf of Mexico as they issued a report saying that 75% of the worst spill in American history has been cleaned up or naturally dispersed.

The report by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration suggests that the remaining oil is now so diluted that it is no longer a big threat.

The White House said it had a "high degree of confidence" in the findings. But critics were swift to point out that the estimates still leave about 1m barrels of oil in the Gulf – more than the entire size of the country's second worst oil spill – while the report shows that only about one-third of the oil was actually removed by the vast cleanup effort.

According to the NOAA report, burning, skimming and pumping from the wellhead to ships removed about 25% of the estimated 5m barrels of oil that poured into the sea for three months after an explosion on the Deepwater Horizon rig that killed 11 workers. A similar amount "naturally evaporated or dissolved".

The NOAA report said: "Just less than one quarter (24%) was dispersed (either naturally or as a result of operations) as microscopic droplets into Gulf waters.

"The residual amount – just over one quarter (26%) – is either on or just below the surface as light sheen and weathered tarballs, has washed ashore or been collected from the shore, or is buried in sand and sediments. Oil in the residual and dispersed categories is in the process of being degraded."

The report was compiled with the assistance of more than 25 of the US's best government and independent scientists.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/aug/04/gulf-oil-spills-scientists-report
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 05:43 PM
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5. Pardon me for not caring. nt
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