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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:44 AM
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Gibbs walkback / clarification: "We should all, me included, stop fighting each other..."
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 10:46 AM by jefferson_dem
Robert Gibbs Clarifies "Professional Left" Criticism, Calls Initial Comments Inartful
First Posted: 08-10-10 11:41 AM | Updated: 08-10-10 11:41 AM

In a statement to the Huffington Post, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs acknowledged that his recent broadside against the "professional left" was inartful, and called for renewed unity among the Democratic community.

Referring to statements he made in an interview with The Hill published Tuesday, Gibbs reiterated his belief (which served as the basis of his initial remarks) that the president had achieved a host of legislative accomplishments for which he was not getting proper credit. But he said that Democrats, "me included," need to "stop fighting each other and arguing about our differences on certain policies, and instead work together to make sure everyone knows what is at stake because we've come too far to turn back now."

"I watch too much cable, I admit," Gibbs told the Huffington Post. "Day after day it gets frustrating. Yesterday I watched as someone called legislation to prevent teacher layoffs a bailout - but I know that's not a view held by many, nor were the views I was frustrated about."

He continued:

So what I may have said inartfully, let me say this way -- since coming to office in January 2009, this White House and Congress have worked tirelessly to put our country back on the right path. Most importantly, to dig our way out of a huge recession and build an economy that makes America more competitive and our middle class more secure. Some are frustrated that the change we want hasn't come fast enough for many Americans. That we all understand.

But in 17 months, we have seen Wall Street reform, historic health care reform, fair pay for women, a recovery act that pulled us back from a depression and got our economy moving again, record investments in clean energy that are creating jobs, student loan reforms so families can afford college, a weapons system canceled that the Pentagon didn't want, reset our relationship with the world and negotiated a nuclear weapons treaty that gets us closer to a world without fear of these weapons, just to name a few. And at the end of this month, 90,000 troops will have left Iraq and our combat mission will come to an end.

Even so, we will continue to work each day on the promises and commitments that the President made traveling all over this country for two years and produce the change we know is possible.

In November, America will get to choose between going back to the failed policies that got us into this mess, or moving forward with the policies that are leading us out.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/10/robert-gibbs-clarifies-pr_n_676934.html
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:50 AM
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1. I would like the following clarification from Gibbs or Obama himself:
In what way is your policy on the Guantanamo prisoners different from that of the Bush Administration?

In what way is your relationship with Wall Street and the "financial sector" different from that of the Bush administration?

Etc., etc.,


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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:53 AM
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4. Perhaps you should change your moniker to also include "never"?
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 12:37 PM
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28. So do you have answers to those questions I asked? (nt)
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 01:08 PM
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30. Okay

1. The Obama administration is letting some Guantanamo prisoners be tried in civilian courts. He moved those remaining in Guantanamo into better cells with fewer restrictions. He tried moving them out of Guantanamo and into a federal prison in the United States, but was blocked from doing so by the legislature.

2. The new financial regulations are a 180 degree reversal of the Bush relationship with Wall Street.

Etc., etc.,

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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:52 AM
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2. More than that
"Some are frustrated that the change we want hasn't come fast enough for many Americans. That we all understand."

Does he understand that some of the change was things Obama claimed he was against, but now he's for?
Does he understand that some of the change was in the opposite direction that some actually wanted?
Does he understand that some things haven't changed at all, and they have explained that they don't want it to?

It isn't just about what he hasn't done. It is often about what he has chosen to do.
They weren't fighting with the unions over Lincoln/Halter because of what Obama didn't do, or do fast enough. They were fighting him because of what he DID do.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:58 AM
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9. Do you understand basic politics? nt
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:04 AM
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15. if by that you mean telling any lies necessary to get your ass elected...
...then yes, I think most of us understand how that works.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:09 AM
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17. Your response proves my point nt
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:52 AM
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3. a right-winger complains about the teacher bill, so Gibbs craps on the left?
This clarification is even worse than the initial insult. Fuck you Gibbs.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:53 AM
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6. It's pretty bad
Step one, crap on the left.
Step two, crap on the left by blaming them for right wing statements
Step three, say nothing you do pleases the left.

Rinse repeat.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:59 AM
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10. He did not tie that to the left, he was discussing watching cable news too much nt
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:53 AM
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5. Kiss my butt Gibbs. Are YOU on drugs?
You already know that most of us are voting for the democrats and none of the "professional left" would have said saving teachers jobs was a bailout.
It looks as if you're getting your sides confused. (I hope he fires you, or at the very least asks you to take an intelligence test).
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:56 AM
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7. I'm afraid reasoning won't help with most of them, either
But being reasonable is always a good step anyway.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:57 AM
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8. he wasn't venting, it was scripted
they had four speechwriters write his "inartful" comments for him, and they wrote this clarification too.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:59 AM
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11. Link? nt
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disillusioned73 Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:09 AM
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18. Bingo
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:01 AM
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12. and so the dissembling begins....
What a worthless tool.
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dotymed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:01 AM
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13. What is really sad
is that Americans will have only 2 choices. Neither is what we want. Again, we are forced to choose between the lesser of two evils.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:11 AM
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19. Do you think Democrats are evil, or just Obama?
Please be more specific.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:02 AM
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14. Is all this back and forth between the left-left and moderate-left really necessary?
Gibbs went too far, people over reacted to his over reacting. Sigh. I am going to go to the polls in Connecticut today and vote for Lamont for Gov in that primary and do so happily. I will leave the unproductive infighting to DU.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:07 AM
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16. It's understandable
We're three months from an election and there are people seeming campaigning against the President, who isn't on the ballot and will not be for two years, instead of campaigning against Republicans.

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30rock Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:47 AM
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23. I predict that many who praised his original comments will praise his walkback, too
Edited on Tue Aug-10-10 11:50 AM by 30rock
People who praised Gibbs' original comments without saying Gibbs should issue a walkback will now praise the walkback.

Inflammatory=good
Conciliatory=good
Whatever Gibbs says=good
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 11:49 AM
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24. +1.0
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 12:17 PM
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25. His original point was still valid, and if you notice, he stands by it
He just needed to pull back on the "drug test" comment so as not to offend the hypersensitive types who assumed he was looking through the television and speaking directly to them.

:eyes:

But I get why he said that too. Anyone who can't tell that we're no longer operating under the Bush administration deserved that comment.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 12:21 PM
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26. Nope, he was right the first time. nt
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 12:26 PM
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27. He shouldn't walk back his comments... he was 100% right the first time

But Obama... being the 'uniter' that he is, forced him to walk them back.



I would've said, "fuck no! They ARE a bunch of retards on drugs."

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GaltFreeDiet Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 12:45 PM
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29. Gibbs needs to take a breathalyzer before he speaks
n/t
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